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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 11, 2023 14:31:29 GMT -5
Dover had no fear, why not take them?? Travel is bad enough with NP. You want to take on another road trip? NO, and MOAC schools are too intelligent to fall for it and take ONE. MUCH smarter than every school that voted for New Philly Keep trying, but you gotta come up with something better than your weak sauce.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 11, 2023 15:17:07 GMT -5
Travel is bad enough with NP. You want to take on another road trip? NO, and MOAC schools are too intelligent to fall for it and take ONE. MUCH smarter than every school that voted for New Philly Keep trying, but you gotta come up with something better than your weak sauce. I don’t see NP lasting very long. I think it was just a temporary fix for the time being. I honestly think Shelby and Ontario would be very good fits for the OCC. I know a lot of people associated with Ontario would be against that though.
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Post by dude on Jan 11, 2023 22:11:25 GMT -5
Dover had no fear, why not take them?? Travel is bad enough with NP. You want to take on another road trip? Half the schools that voted New Phil in have now seen it creates problems with the amount of travel and late weeknight returns.
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Post by dude on Jan 11, 2023 22:13:18 GMT -5
NO, and MOAC schools are too intelligent to fall for it and take ONE. MUCH smarter than every school that voted for New Philly Keep trying, but you gotta come up with something better than your weak sauce. I don’t see NP lasting very long. I think it was just a temporary fix for the time being. I honestly think Shelby and Ontario would be very good fits for the OCC. I know a lot of people associated with Ontario would be against that though. Many Ontario old timers see themselves as a small township school. They do not see that they are in the same sports division as Mansfield for many sports.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 11, 2023 22:16:13 GMT -5
Travel is bad enough with NP. You want to take on another road trip? Half the schools that voted New Phil in have now seen it creates problems with the amount of travel and late weeknight returns. Get rid of NP and bring in Shelby and Ontario. Takes care of a lot of travel and better competition for both schools.
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Post by mrsteel on Jan 11, 2023 22:36:16 GMT -5
I don’t see NP lasting very long. I think it was just a temporary fix for the time being. I honestly think Shelby and Ontario would be very good fits for the OCC. I know a lot of people associated with Ontario would be against that though. Many Ontario old timers see themselves as a small township school. They do not see that they are in the same sports division as Mansfield for many sports. without the open enrollment they still would be. Open enrollment for the most part has done nothing for them athletic wise. Both schools are happy where they are and could care less about the occ.
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Post by dude on Jan 11, 2023 22:45:46 GMT -5
Many Ontario old timers see themselves as a small township school. They do not see that they are in the same sports division as Mansfield for many sports. without the open enrollment they still would be. Open enrollment for the most part has done nothing for them athletic wise. Both schools are happy where they are and could care less about the occ. Many schools will tell you half their enrollment does not improve their sports but every student still gets counted when making divisions. Ontario has a CB number of 19 for football and 16 for basketball so they obviously are having open enrollment athletes.
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Post by dude on Jan 12, 2023 8:57:30 GMT -5
Dover had no fear, why not take them?? Travel is bad enough with NP. You want to take on another road trip? He knows they are 70 or more miles away and knows full well why they are not being voted in right now.
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Post by cbus on Jan 12, 2023 9:38:32 GMT -5
This may have already been proposed but I think the OCC should adopt a 6 team modified Richland County model (Lex, Senior, Madison, CF, Shelby & Ashland). Then have an agreement with the SBC Lake (Tiffin, Bellevue, Norwalk, Perkins, Sandusky, Clyde) to play 2 crossover games each year. One home and one away. I think the scheduling works-weeks 1-3-nonconf, weeks 4-5-SBC opponents, weeks 6-10-OCC games. The longest trip I think would be CF and Sandusky (64 miles) but it would only happen every 5 years (I think).
This might screw up the basketball schedules but hopefully that wouldn't be too hard to find games. It seems like you could play some OCC teams 3 times if a school really want to reduce travel costs. I guess the hurdle would be to get Shelby to join. Or maybe Ontario if Shelby won't. Of course getting the SBC to agree would also be a struggle but I see a lot of advantages to this approach.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 12, 2023 11:09:47 GMT -5
I don’t see NP lasting very long. I think it was just a temporary fix for the time being. I honestly think Shelby and Ontario would be very good fits for the OCC. I know a lot of people associated with Ontario would be against that though. Many Ontario old timers see themselves as a small township school. They do not see that they are in the same sports division as Mansfield for many sports. NOT TRUE per usual.....All Ontario residents see themselves as blessed to live in one of the few growing cities in Ohio. The retail center between Columbus and Akron/Canton. What other city of 6000 population has 70 eateries? AND a school district that families want to move to and open enroll their kids to for better taxes and for a better education? They also see themselves as a leader in saving the MOAC from dying. Those of your ilk do not stand on principle, instead believe in being a runner.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 12, 2023 11:17:30 GMT -5
Travel is bad enough with NP. You want to take on another road trip? He knows they are 70 or more miles away and knows full well why they are not being voted in right now. IF some or all the schools to the West voted against Dover, what makes you think the schools to the East would vote for an even longer trim to Shelby? I'm sure you guys know you really PO'd New Philly
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 12, 2023 11:33:28 GMT -5
without the open enrollment they still would be. Open enrollment for the most part has done nothing for them athletic wise. Both schools are happy where they are and could care less about the occ. Many schools will tell you half their enrollment does not improve their sports but every student still gets counted when making divisions. Ontario has a CB number of 19 for football and 16 for basketball so they obviously are having open enrollment athletes. Unintelligent of you per usual. Those CB numbers are meaningless and you know it when it comes to Ontario. You KNOW the best basketball and football players in Ontario have open enrolled TO Senior! And some done unethically, ask Chioke. WHY in the hell should Ontario join the OCC after that and make it even easier for them?? YET you opine! LOL...NO ONE open enrolls to Ontario to play football. NO All-District athletes have open enrolled to Ontario to play play any sport except maybe soccer. They open enroll for the academics, decide to try football, stand on the sidelines for 2-3 years then maybe contribute as Junior or Seniors. PROVE otherwise. Joe has retired, no open enrolling for basketball.
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 12, 2023 11:40:09 GMT -5
Unintelligent of you per usual. Those CB numbers are meaningless and you know it when it comes to Ontario. You KNOW the best basketball and football players in Ontario have open enrolled TO Senior! And some done unethically, ask Chioke. WHY in the hell should Ontario join the OCC after that and make it even easier for them?? YET you opine! LOL...NO ONE open enrolls to Ontario to play football. NO All-District athletes have open enrolled to Ontario to play play any sport except maybe soccer. They open enroll for the academics, decide to try football, stand on the sidelines for 2-3 years then maybe contribute as Junior or Seniors. PROVE otherwise. Joe has retired, no open enrolling for basketball. You mentioned Joe. He said yesterday he can see the reasoning behind Ontario joining the local league mentioned in Richland Source.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 12, 2023 11:46:02 GMT -5
Travel is bad enough with NP. You want to take on another road trip? Half the schools that voted New Phil in have now seen it creates problems with the amount of travel and late weeknight returns. More proof they aren't as intelligent as Shelby, they panicked as usual.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 12, 2023 11:47:55 GMT -5
Unintelligent of you per usual. Those CB numbers are meaningless and you know it when it comes to Ontario. You KNOW the best basketball and football players in Ontario have open enrolled TO Senior! And some done unethically, ask Chioke. WHY in the hell should Ontario join the OCC after that and make it even easier for them?? YET you opine! LOL...NO ONE open enrolls to Ontario to play football. NO All-District athletes have open enrolled to Ontario to play play any sport except maybe soccer. They open enroll for the academics, decide to try football, stand on the sidelines for 2-3 years then maybe contribute as Junior or Seniors. PROVE otherwise. Joe has retired, no open enrolling for basketball. You mentioned Joe. He said yesterday he can see the reasoning behind Ontario joining the local league mentioned in Richland Source. Glad to hear you're following THE Joe. He could compete against anyone in the OCC. But not with the athletes they have now.
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 12, 2023 12:01:34 GMT -5
Glad to hear you're following THE Joe. He could compete against anyone in the OCC. But not with the athletes they have now. I talked to him.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 12, 2023 12:10:50 GMT -5
Why aren't you the new coach at Ontario?
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Post by mrsteel on Jan 13, 2023 17:17:16 GMT -5
Unintelligent of you per usual. Those CB numbers are meaningless and you know it when it comes to Ontario. You KNOW the best basketball and football players in Ontario have open enrolled TO Senior! And some done unethically, ask Chioke. WHY in the hell should Ontario join the OCC after that and make it even easier for them?? YET you opine! LOL...NO ONE open enrolls to Ontario to play football. NO All-District athletes have open enrolled to Ontario to play play any sport except maybe soccer. They open enroll for the academics, decide to try football, stand on the sidelines for 2-3 years then maybe contribute as Junior or Seniors. PROVE otherwise. Joe has retired, no open enrolling for basketball. You mentioned Joe. He said yesterday he can see the reasoning behind Ontario joining the local league mentioned in Richland Source. No one in Ontario is thinking about it.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jan 13, 2023 17:24:05 GMT -5
I’m guessing nobody at Shelby is either. In fact, other than on here, nobody besides Curt Conrad is thinking about it either.
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Post by dude on Jan 13, 2023 22:41:13 GMT -5
You mentioned Joe. He said yesterday he can see the reasoning behind Ontario joining the local league mentioned in Richland Source. No one in Ontario is thinking about it. It was being talked about at the Ontario game Tuesday, so people there are talking about it.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 14, 2023 9:56:50 GMT -5
thinking....talking?? DUH!! Well ya....some would. The ones who read the article. Chatter about possible league changes are THE FAVORITE thing for fans to banter about.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 14, 2023 10:00:56 GMT -5
I’m guessing nobody at Shelby is either. In fact, other than on here, nobody besides Curt Conrad is thinking about it either. AND Curt has to find something to write about at the midpoint of the basketball season. Desperation time for a sports writer. Better be careful, Curt just might be ohioraised.
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Post by buckeye33 on Jan 17, 2023 0:43:46 GMT -5
I’m guessing nobody at Shelby is either. In fact, other than on here, nobody besides Curt Conrad is thinking about it either. AND Curt has to find something to write about at the midpoint of the basketball season. Desperation time for a sports writer. Better be careful, Curt just might be ohioraised. Jake Furr wrote about the same RC league about a year ago
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Post by dude on Jan 17, 2023 8:50:28 GMT -5
AND Curt has to find something to write about at the midpoint of the basketball season. Desperation time for a sports writer. Better be careful, Curt just might be ohioraised. Jake Furr wrote about the same RC league about a year ago It has been talked about a lot since 2014-15. I was told during 2020 when many schools were remote and sports were day by day, there were many meetings and discussions about the schools working together or consistently in handling the scares of the 2020-21 school year. During those educational talks, the discussion of a County League came up a few times and the benefits were introduced. Although no one expected an immediate change, the proposal was a topic that had positive feedback in many ways.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 17, 2023 15:15:10 GMT -5
AND Curt has to find something to write about at the midpoint of the basketball season. Desperation time for a sports writer. Better be careful, Curt just might be ohioraised. Jake Furr wrote about the same RC league about a year ago In some form it's been written/discussed just about every year for some time
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 19, 2023 11:01:18 GMT -5
For some unknown reason a history of Richland County schools has cropped up on the SBC Basketball Forum. Which included a discussion of the now defunct but REAL Richland County league. In doing some research of the now defunct Johnny Appleseed Conference, which included most all schools from the old Richland County League I found this interesting factoid. For 2 years, before the RCL died and the JAC took over, the schools played league contests against each other in BOTH leagues, EXCEPT in football.
Could something similar placate the desires of the few? Have a football only league for those who wanted to play in it. AND have a Richland County League, in which the larger Richland County Schools +2, would play a schedule in all other sports?
ALSO, why not have a small school Richland County League? Plymouth, Crestview, Lucas, St. Petes, Mansfield Christian + others. Such as Crestline, Loudonville and Northmor?
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 20, 2023 7:55:43 GMT -5
You mentioned Joe. He said yesterday he can see the reasoning behind Ontario joining the local league mentioned in Richland Source. No one in Ontario is thinking about it. Obv you are.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 20, 2023 12:26:31 GMT -5
When someone says "no one", be it true or not, they are obv including oneself.
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Post by dude on Jan 20, 2023 14:47:08 GMT -5
No one in Ontario is thinking about it. Obv you are. It is being talked about in all parts of Richland County. Maybe not being considered by all, but being talked about.
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Post by mrsteel on Jan 20, 2023 18:56:52 GMT -5
No one in Ontario is thinking about it. Obv you are. Reading the thread only. Ontario is happy for now.
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