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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 20, 2023 22:35:27 GMT -5
It is being talked about in all parts of Richland County. Maybe not being considered by all, but being talked about. Has been "talked about" for decades. |
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Post by cbus on Jan 21, 2023 9:22:32 GMT -5
For some unknown reason a history of Richland County schools has cropped up on the SBC Basketball Forum. Which included a discussion of the now defunct but REAL Richland County league. In doing some research of the now defunct Johnny Appleseed Conference, which included most all schools from the old Richland County League I found this interesting factoid. For 2 years, before the RCL died and the JAC took over, the schools played league contests against each other in BOTH leagues, EXCEPT in football. Could something similar placate the desires of the few? Have a football only league for those who wanted to play in it. AND have a Richland County League, in which the larger Richland County Schools +2, would play a schedule in all other sports? ALSO, why not have a small school Richland County League? Plymouth, Crestview, Lucas, St. Petes, Mansfield Christian + others. Such as Crestline, Loudonville and Northmor? I think this makes sense but, what would the football only league look like? Football is usually the problem when trying to construct leagues. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 21, 2023 12:58:18 GMT -5
It could be even more far ranging than what's being talked about now. To find 8 schools interested in such a league. Those especially concerned about being "prepared" for the postseason. Thus only one sport needing to travel longer distances.
OR go the California route. Whose high school athletic association tells schools what leagues they MUST play in. Using size and distance traveled as the criteria AND the association redraws leagues periodically based on what schools demographics are changing and their successes or failures in the leagues they've been in.
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Post by richrod on Jan 21, 2023 13:35:47 GMT -5
It could be even more far ranging than what's being talked about now. To find 8 schools interested in such a league. Those especially concerned about being "prepared" for the postseason. Thus only one sport needing to travel longer distances. OR go the California route. Whose high school athletic association tells schools what leagues they MUST play in. Using size and distance traveled as the criteria AND the association redraws leagues periodically based on what schools demographics are changing and their successes or failures in the leagues they've been in. I agree that I think football only leagues would be a good idea. You'd solve a lot of the league gripe issues because football becomes such a hang up for so many. If you were able to do that maybe you'd get some schools to the north involved in a football only league |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 21, 2023 15:15:24 GMT -5
Good idea, that could work. Football only. Sandusky, Norwalk, TC, Bellevue, Senior, Ashland, Wooster and Shelby. Could make for some interesting matchups, as there are differences of opinion on which league is better.
Then add Lex to the other 7 MOAC schools. OR Madison can come with Lex and Pleasant could work out a deal with the 2 leagues below.
How about 4 schools from the Firelands and 4 schools from the N-10? The other eight in their own football only league.
If a school/schools aren't happy after an agreed number of years, a switch could be worked out.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 21, 2023 15:31:19 GMT -5
Doesn’t Willard and Margaretta pretty much do this starting next year? In the River for football then play in the Bay for everything else.
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Post by baldref on Jan 21, 2023 17:33:16 GMT -5
Good idea, that could work. Football only. Sandusky, Norwalk, TC, Bellevue, Senior, Ashland, Wooster and Shelby. Could make for some interesting matchups, as there are differences of opinion on which league is better. Then add Lex to the other 7 MOAC schools. OR Madison can come with Lex and Pleasant could work out a deal with the 2 leagues below. How about 4 schools from the Firelands and 4 schools from the N-10? The other eight in their own football only league. If a school/schools aren't happy after an agreed number of years, a switch could be worked out. Why would Shelby agree to that proposal? They already said no to the larger schools in the sbc and now you want them to go back? Heck, they can't beat Bellevue m u ch less these other ones. Notice you didn't put lex or ontario in the large fb division. Didn't ontario just beat Shelby in fb this season? As noted elsewhere and before by others, Shelby's run of good fb athletes is over and the district is not growing unlike other areas. |
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Post by sbclives on Jan 21, 2023 18:18:53 GMT -5
Good idea, that could work. Football only. Sandusky, Norwalk, TC, Bellevue, Senior, Ashland, Wooster and Shelby. Could make for some interesting matchups, as there are differences of opinion on which league is better. Then add Lex to the other 7 MOAC schools. OR Madison can come with Lex and Pleasant could work out a deal with the 2 leagues below. How about 4 schools from the Firelands and 4 schools from the N-10? The other eight in their own football only league. If a school/schools aren't happy after an agreed number of years, a switch could be worked out. Why would Shelby agree to that proposal? They already said no to the larger schools in the sbc and now you want them to go back? Heck, they can't beat Bellevue m u ch less these other ones. Notice you didn't put lex or ontario in the large fb division. Didn't ontario just beat Shelby in fb this season? As noted elsewhere and before by others, Shelby's run of good fb athletes is over and the district is not growing unlike other areas. It’s over? I guess they should be looking for a smaller league to be in then. |
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Post by baldref on Jan 21, 2023 18:32:45 GMT -5
Why would Shelby agree to that proposal? They already said no to the larger schools in the sbc and now you want them to go back? Heck, they can't beat Bellevue m u ch less these other ones. Notice you didn't put lex or ontario in the large fb division. Didn't ontario just beat Shelby in fb this season? As noted elsewhere and before by others, Shelby's run of good fb athletes is over and the district is not growing unlike other areas. It’s over? I guess they should be looking for a smaller league to be in then. why? They're content in the MOAC. Fits geographically and size wise. Only ones really talking about or pushing a new league are those who trying to save the OCC or SBC. Keep dreaming |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 21, 2023 18:55:34 GMT -5
Doesn’t Willard and Margaretta pretty much do this starting next year? In the River for football then play in the Bay for everything else. that's 2 not 8 |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 21, 2023 18:56:53 GMT -5
Good idea, that could work. Football only. Sandusky, Norwalk, TC, Bellevue, Senior, Ashland, Wooster and Shelby. Could make for some interesting matchups, as there are differences of opinion on which league is better. Then add Lex to the other 7 MOAC schools. OR Madison can come with Lex and Pleasant could work out a deal with the 2 leagues below. How about 4 schools from the Firelands and 4 schools from the N-10? The other eight in their own football only league. If a school/schools aren't happy after an agreed number of years, a switch could be worked out. Why would Shelby agree to that proposal? They already said no to the larger schools in the sbc and now you want them to go back? Heck, they can't beat Bellevue m u ch less these other ones. Notice you didn't put lex or ontario in the large fb division. Didn't ontario just beat Shelby in fb this season? As noted elsewhere and before by others, Shelby's run of good fb athletes is over and the district is not growing unlike other areas. Well if Shelby wouldn't do it, I KNOW Lex would, ask dude. This suggested football only league is for schools wanting to get prepared for the playoffs |
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Post by dude on Jan 21, 2023 19:40:14 GMT -5
It’s over? I guess they should be looking for a smaller league to be in then. why? They're content in the MOAC. Fits geographically and size wise. Only ones really talking about or pushing a new league are those who trying to save the OCC or SBC. Keep dreaming I don't think anyone is trying to save the OCC. It will survive with 7 members for a very long time if that's what they want. Shelby wanted in the OCC with some bigger schools but was very clear about the travel the SBC required. In my opinion, until the SBC drops the idea of multiple divisions it will be in flux as a league with unstable teams. |
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Post by cbus on Jan 21, 2023 22:17:40 GMT -5
Good idea, that could work. Football only. Sandusky, Norwalk, TC, Bellevue, Senior, Ashland, Wooster and Shelby. Could make for some interesting matchups, as there are differences of opinion on which league is better. Then add Lex to the other 7 MOAC schools. OR Madison can come with Lex and Pleasant could work out a deal with the 2 leagues below. How about 4 schools from the Firelands and 4 schools from the N-10? The other eight in their own football only league. If a school/schools aren't happy after an agreed number of years, a switch could be worked out. I don't get it. Where would Clyde and Perkins go? I like SBC and OCC each having 6 teams with 3 guaranteed crossover games to fill out the football schedules each year. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 21, 2023 22:20:26 GMT -5
realign Bay and River....could be Clyde with the big boys if Bellevue didn't want it
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Post by dude on Jan 23, 2023 8:58:12 GMT -5
Good idea, that could work. Football only. Sandusky, Norwalk, TC, Bellevue, Senior, Ashland, Wooster and Shelby. Could make for some interesting matchups, as there are differences of opinion on which league is better. Then add Lex to the other 7 MOAC schools. OR Madison can come with Lex and Pleasant could work out a deal with the 2 leagues below. How about 4 schools from the Firelands and 4 schools from the N-10? The other eight in their own football only league. If a school/schools aren't happy after an agreed number of years, a switch could be worked out. I don't get it. Where would Clyde and Perkins go? I like SBC and OCC each having 6 teams with 3 guaranteed crossover games to fill out the football schedules each year. It's to bad the locations are not better because Those would be good arrangements. But the fact is football does not drive league choices for most schools anymore like it did years ago. |
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Oct 6, 2023 15:37:12 GMT -5
I've be hearing rumors about Dover being invited to the OCC again. Possibly for the 2025/26 school year. Any fire to go along with this smoke?
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Post by sbclives on Oct 6, 2023 16:06:44 GMT -5
The OCC seems to be trending more east.
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Post by ohioraised on Oct 7, 2023 7:25:33 GMT -5
I've be hearing rumors about Dover being invited to the OCC again. Possibly for the 2025/26 school year. Any fire to go along with this smoke? I have been told the Lexington football schedule is already set for 2024 and 2025 and Dover is not in it. |
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Oct 7, 2023 7:54:39 GMT -5
I've be hearing rumors about Dover being invited to the OCC again. Possibly for the 2025/26 school year. Any fire to go along with this smoke? I have been told the Lexington football schedule is already set for 2024 and 2025 and Dover is not in it. I know that Lex is set for 24/25. But I have heard that Dover may be involved by 2025/26. Dover is Playing Wooster and West Holmes in 24/25. The basketball schedule for 24/25 has not been set yet for Lex. |
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Post by dude on Oct 7, 2023 8:12:56 GMT -5
I have been told the Lexington football schedule is already set for 2024 and 2025 and Dover is not in it. I know that Lex is set for 24/25. But I have heard that Dover may be involved by 2025/26. Dover is Playing Wooster and West Holmes in 24/25. The basketball schedule for 24/25 has not been set yet for Lex. Typically basketball schedules can be finalized in May/June of the coming season. Basketball has a number of holiday events that can move teams around a lot and some teams are still looking for Dec games in Aug. Football can get locked in 2 years in advance because of the need for a home and away game plan. |
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Post by ohioraised on Oct 7, 2023 8:15:19 GMT -5
I have been told the Lexington football schedule is already set for 2024 and 2025 and Dover is not in it. I know that Lex is set for 24/25. But I have heard that Dover may be involved by 2025/26. Dover is Playing Wooster and West Holmes in 24/25. The basketball schedule for 24/25 has not been set yet for Lex. Lexington has found a two year replacement for Mt Vernon leaving. |
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Oct 7, 2023 9:17:09 GMT -5
I know that Lex is set for 24/25. But I have heard that Dover may be involved by 2025/26. Dover is Playing Wooster and West Holmes in 24/25. The basketball schedule for 24/25 has not been set yet for Lex. Lexington has found a two year replacement for Mt Vernon leaving. Who is that opponent? I have not seen the replacement for Mt.Vernon. I know they have Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork as always. |
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Post by ryman11677 on Oct 7, 2023 12:15:31 GMT -5
I said it once and I’ll say it again I don’t understand adding New Philadelphia to the OCC. If you weren’t eventually gonna add Dover. Let’s go to 10 add Louisville, who is independent and add Canton Central Catholic split into two divisions of five .
West Holmes goes west with the rest of the teams and Wooster goes east with the rest of the teams
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Post by dude on Oct 8, 2023 19:36:19 GMT -5
I said it once and I’ll say it again I don’t understand adding New Philadelphia to the OCC. If you weren’t eventually gonna add Dover. Let’s go to 10 add Louisville, who is independent and add Canton Central Catholic split into two divisions of five . West Holmes goes west with the rest of the teams and Wooster goes east with the rest of the teams Is it possible since the vote was made for New Phil that some have discovered it is more difficult to make a 4:30 or 5:00 start time than they originally thought it would. And that their students are arriving home much later on school nights then they had planned. |
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Post by ryman11677 on Oct 8, 2023 20:29:56 GMT -5
For schools west of 1-71 to go to Dover New Philadelphia play them on Saturday that is not football but other sports. But to use that argument for football Mansfield went to Massillon Lexington years ago went to north canton and Ashland went to dover
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Post by dude on Oct 9, 2023 5:34:03 GMT -5
For schools west of 1-71 to go to Dover New Philadelphia play them on Saturday that is not football but other sports. But to use that argument for football Mansfield went to Massillon Lexington years ago went to north canton and Ashland went to dover Imagine Dover and New Phil playing half of their conference contests all on Saturday. Easy to say but ridiculously impossible to do. There may be 10 Saturdays in just the fall season and looking at volleyball, soccer and football from 7th grade to varsity. Philly has 12 teams to schedule 33 games on 10 Saturdays and that is not counting cross country, tennis and golf matches. Mansfield, Lexington and Ashland did schedule those games but they did not include the 7th grade, 8th grade, freshman, volleyball, soccer, golf or tennis. |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Dec 5, 2023 19:34:58 GMT -5
Is there anything new going on involving this topic?
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Post by ryman11677 on Dec 12, 2023 21:49:45 GMT -5
West Holmes should now be crowned the 2023 OCC football championship. It was in the news what I heard earlier. They had an ineligible player on the team that would have to sit out first four games . Game 4 west Holmes he played and that has to be forfeited. I don’t care what they say it needs to be changed
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Post by dude on Dec 13, 2023 6:20:23 GMT -5
West Holmes should now be crowned the 2023 OCC football championship. It was in the news what I heard earlier. They had an ineligible player on the team that would have to sit out first four games . Game 4 west Holmes he played and that has to be forfeited. I don’t care what they say it needs to be changedWho is they? Has not the OHSAA ruled the kid was eligible in the games he played? We do not have to agree with the OHSAA but they have decided no games were forfeited. |
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Post by sportsfan15 on Dec 13, 2023 8:50:12 GMT -5
It sounds like OHSAA switched up on its own guidelines and was going to allow the young man to play the second half of the season when typically it is play the first half and sit second half and postseason. Sounds like a wonky situation that had poor communication and accountability on behalf of OHSAA and then the AD.
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