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Post by sportsvideo on Nov 20, 2022 13:09:05 GMT -5
2015-16 & 2016-17 Tiffin 322 Norwalk 299 Sandusky 322 Clyde 269 Perkins 295 Bellevue 246
Vermilion 242 Willard 143 Port Clinton 208 Edison 161 Huron 208 gibsonburg 113
lakota 99 Margaretta 110 Woodmore 111 Hopewell 107 St Joe 58 Calvert 63
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 20, 2022 14:16:20 GMT -5
I only said Lake/Bay for a reason. My point here was explaining the Bellevue instead of Perkins move when it came to who to drop from the Lake in to the Bay.
I'm aware that enrollment alone was not used for the Bay/River divide
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Post by sportsvideo on Nov 20, 2022 14:38:13 GMT -5
I only said Lake/Bay for a reason. My point here was explaining the Bellevue instead of Perkins move when it came to who to drop from the Lake in to the Bay. I'm aware that enrollment alone was not used for the Bay/River divide and my point was. don't cater to teams. stick to your guns you have 18 teams divide it by 3 and go with it..
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Post by sbclives on Nov 20, 2022 17:54:10 GMT -5
Willard now in the River with St. Joe and Calvert that Willard is 4x the size of. The new name for the SBC should be the Catering Service Conference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2022 20:23:14 GMT -5
With Willard (River) being bigger than half of the Bay schools, How long will it be before Margaretta and few others start Boo Hooing how much smaller they are than Willard, That they shouldn't have to play them. That's why Marg. dropped Huron, Hopefully with Coach Gary Q. in charge, He'll want that rivalry back, Beings Huron is almost the same size now. Instead of Margaretta traveling to Ottawa Hills and all the way to Montpelier. I know some Castalians are not happy about their scheduling, Before Gary came on board.
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Post by don on Nov 20, 2022 20:46:23 GMT -5
With Willard (River) being bigger than half of the Bay schools, How long will it be before Margaretta and few others start Boo Hooing how much smaller they are than Willard, That they shouldn't have to play them. That's why Marg. dropped Huron, Hopefully with Coach Gary Q. in charge, He'll want that rivalry back, Beings Huron is almost the same size now. Instead of Margaretta traveling to Ottawa Hills and all the way to Montpelier. I know some Castalians are not happy about their scheduling, Before Gary came on board. thanks for the insight Mark
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 20, 2022 21:11:46 GMT -5
Glad to see you're appreciative
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Post by don on Nov 20, 2022 21:23:27 GMT -5
Glad to see you're appreciative I’m very appreciative of you, Willard
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Post by don on Nov 20, 2022 21:25:02 GMT -5
sportsvideo has been ranting. You have to love the passion
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Post by sbclives on Nov 20, 2022 21:28:38 GMT -5
With Willard (River) being bigger than half of the Bay schools, How long will it be before Margaretta and few others start Boo Hooing how much smaller they are than Willard, That they shouldn't have to play them. That's why Marg. dropped Huron, Hopefully with Coach Gary Q. in charge, He'll want that rivalry back, Beings Huron is almost the same size now. Instead of Margaretta traveling to Ottawa Hills and all the way to Montpelier. I know some Castalians are not happy about their scheduling, Before Gary came on board. I don’t agree with you much but that’s a very good point about Margaretta dumping Huron cause they were to big for them. So how is Margaretta going to justify playing a bigger school in Willard? The only way Margaretta can spin that is they think Willard stinks and they can get a win against them. As a matter of fact that’s the message the entire SBC has sent Willard. They think you are terrible so go sit at the little kids table.
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Post by sbclives on Nov 20, 2022 21:31:01 GMT -5
sportsvideo has been ranting. You have to love the passion SV might be older then most of us but he’s always stuck up for what is right even if people didn’t want to hear it.
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Post by dolittle on Nov 20, 2022 22:10:10 GMT -5
Margaretta is the most catered to school in the league, hands down. Close second is Willard. Want to play in bay for everything but football. Don’t expect anything to change in duck pond land.
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Post by sportsvideo on Nov 20, 2022 22:39:39 GMT -5
sportsvideo has been ranting. You have to love the passion SV might be older then most of us but he’s always stuck up for what is right even if people didn’t want to hear it. . That’s because he wants it played by the book. We struggle in n some sports and you don’t see me asking to get bumped to the lower division. I don’t have a personal problem matching up against anyone from the lake. I have a problem to why we are doing it .. catering shouldn’t happen. The Ohsaa isn’t going to drop us a division because we dont like our regional. I didn’t sit and cry because we had to go to Coldwater. I thought it was a great trip. Enjoyed seeing their culture to the passion they have for their team and the game. There is no reason we are doing what we are doing. And since they want to cater. I’ll be glad to take. Trip to Lima to play.
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Post by sbclives on Nov 21, 2022 3:13:02 GMT -5
I just don’t get it. Margaretta never backed down from anyone in the past. Now they only play Div. 6 or 7 with the exception of Willard and Vermilion. Have fun playing Montpelier and St. Joe then getting your butt handed to you in the playoffs.
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Post by todd on Nov 21, 2022 10:49:06 GMT -5
I just don’t get it. Margaretta never backed down from anyone in the past. Now they only play Div. 6 or 7 with the exception of Willard and Vermilion. Have fun playing Montpelier and St. Joe then getting your butt handed to you in the playoffs. At least they get in the playoffs to get their but handed to them. Losses = 0 points.
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Post by sbclives on Nov 21, 2022 11:02:46 GMT -5
I just don’t get it. Margaretta never backed down from anyone in the past. Now they only play Div. 6 or 7 with the exception of Willard and Vermilion. Have fun playing Montpelier and St. Joe then getting your butt handed to you in the playoffs. At least they get in the playoffs to get their but handed to them. Losses = 0 points. If that’s the bar that Margaretta has set for their football program and are happy with it then I guess that’s what they are. I know both Margaretta and Huron have transitioned over to more of being basketball schools but at least Huron still tries in football and has solid years.
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Post by don on Nov 21, 2022 12:58:16 GMT -5
what are you teaching the kids when you run from the competition
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Post by sportsvideo on Nov 21, 2022 13:04:53 GMT -5
At least they get in the playoffs to get their but handed to them. Losses = 0 points. If that’s the bar that Margaretta has set for their football program and are happy with it then I guess that’s what they are. I know both Margaretta and Huron have transitioned over to more of being basketball schools but at least Huron still tries in football and has solid years. The difference in schools is #1 two way players , #2 depth , #3 physical size of players You have more of it at the higher levels.. Our first unit could play with the Lakes best , we proved that.. but we also have alot of kids playing offense and defense, and the more times you player schools twice your size the more likely they don't have that problem which puts you at a major disadvantage. I get what the two teams are asking for.. However, the rest of us don't deserve or warrant whats being demanded of us.. Why would i play Tiffin, Clyde, Norwalk, Perkins? You say why go clear to Lima or Findlay to lose when you can do it here.. Because what i mentioned above is more equal to what we are going through... NOBODY in the SBC plays a heavy schedule with more than one team twice their size on it.. NOBODY.. if they didn't have a problem doing so,, then i'd say why didn't you let Fremont Ross in.. All I say is I'd rather play Lima CC or Brookside, or Liberty Benton then face someone twice our size... there is a reason for my madness...
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Post by don on Nov 21, 2022 14:15:38 GMT -5
If that’s the bar that Margaretta has set for their football program and are happy with it then I guess that’s what they are. I know both Margaretta and Huron have transitioned over to more of being basketball schools but at least Huron still tries in football and has solid years. The difference in schools is #1 two way players , #2 depth , #3 physical size of players You have more of it at the higher levels.. Our first unit could play with the Lakes best , we proved that.. but we also have alot of kids playing offense and defense, and the more times you player schools twice your size the more likely they don't have that problem which puts you at a major disadvantage. I get what the two teams are asking for.. However, the rest of us don't deserve or warrant whats being demanded of us.. Why would i play Tiffin, Clyde, Norwalk, Perkins? You say why go clear to Lima or Findlay to lose when you can do it here.. Because what i mentioned above is more equal to what we are going through... NOBODY in the SBC plays a heavy schedule with more than one team twice their size on it.. NOBODY.. if they didn't have a problem doing so,, then i'd say why didn't you let Fremont Ross in.. All I say is I'd rather play Lima CC or Brookside, or Liberty Benton then face someone twice our size... there is a reason for my madness... but if you potentially beat a school bigger than you… more playoff points.. then you don’t run into a coldwater round 2.. scheduling should be tougher now with 16 teams getting in now.
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Post by sportsvideo on Nov 21, 2022 14:17:22 GMT -5
what are you teaching the kids when you run from the competition Lets ask you this.. if you say we don't win vs the Lake next year... then why does the lake want to play us? why wouldn't they go play someone who pushes them instead of a running clock game? i think we should play two teams from the Lake.. but not forced play.. i am ok with bellevue coming down .. and i'd be ok with a combination of any two *perkins or norwalk or clyde"
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Post by sportsvideo on Nov 21, 2022 14:19:06 GMT -5
The difference in schools is #1 two way players , #2 depth , #3 physical size of players You have more of it at the higher levels.. Our first unit could play with the Lakes best , we proved that.. but we also have alot of kids playing offense and defense, and the more times you player schools twice your size the more likely they don't have that problem which puts you at a major disadvantage. I get what the two teams are asking for.. However, the rest of us don't deserve or warrant whats being demanded of us.. Why would i play Tiffin, Clyde, Norwalk, Perkins? You say why go clear to Lima or Findlay to lose when you can do it here.. Because what i mentioned above is more equal to what we are going through... NOBODY in the SBC plays a heavy schedule with more than one team twice their size on it.. NOBODY.. if they didn't have a problem doing so,, then i'd say why didn't you let Fremont Ross in.. All I say is I'd rather play Lima CC or Brookside, or Liberty Benton then face someone twice our size... there is a reason for my madness... but if you potentially beat a school bigger than you… more playoff points.. then you don’t run into a coldwater round 2.. scheduling should be tougher now with 16 teams getting in now. i can also go find a division 2 cleveland school that wins 7 games im 90% sure i'd beat vs tiffin columbian that im 15% sure i could beat... and the more you flood your schedule with teams that play teams you play you split those computer points... also coldwater mainly sticks to schools of their size.. same does marion local..
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Post by sbclives on Nov 21, 2022 14:42:26 GMT -5
but if you potentially beat a school bigger than you… more playoff points.. then you don’t run into a coldwater round 2.. scheduling should be tougher now with 16 teams getting in now. i can also go find a division 2 cleveland school that wins 7 games im 90% sure i'd beat vs tiffin columbian that im 15% sure i could beat... and the more you flood your schedule with teams that play teams you play you split those computer points... also coldwater mainly sticks to schools of their size.. same does marion local.. I thought about that for when Huron more then likely gets to be a Div. 6 school. Their schedule should be Div. 5,6 or 7 with maybe a Div. 4 school of their choosing but for sure no Div. 3 schools. Edison is in this same boat too and PCs numbers have been dropping too. I just have a hard time that Margaretta and Willard are getting free passes and other schools are expected to do what they won’t do. At some point the smaller schools will get tired of this.
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Post by Skip Bayless on Nov 21, 2022 14:48:50 GMT -5
the LAKE needs to find someone else. This is silly!! You're like the big bully on the corner that picks a fight with the kid they beat the crap out of. As the saying goes Pick on someone your own size!
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Post by Skip Bayless on Nov 21, 2022 15:16:42 GMT -5
i can also go find a division 2 cleveland school that wins 7 games im 90% sure i'd beat vs tiffin columbian that im 15% sure i could beat... and the more you flood your schedule with teams that play teams you play you split those computer points... also coldwater mainly sticks to schools of their size.. same does marion local.. I thought about that for when Huron more then likely gets to be a Div. 6 school. Their schedule should be Div. 5,6 or 7 with maybe a Div. 4 school of their choosing but for sure no Div. 3 schools. Edison is in this same boat too and PCs numbers have been dropping too. I just have a hard time that Margaretta and Willard are getting free passes and other schools are expected to do what they won’t do. At some point the smaller schools will get tired of this. Study this out Huron with this years team probably is eliminated first round in D-4 . They're likely eliminated D-5 2nd round to any of the top 4. There is a chance they're still playing if D-6 because they would been up against Columbus Grove who cal preps has virtually even and calpreps has Huron beating anyone Grove played to this point. That would put them in the State Final Four of D-6. Their enrollment is D-5 by one boy. Matching up with their size.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Nov 21, 2022 15:31:37 GMT -5
I thought about that for when Huron more then likely gets to be a Div. 6 school. Their schedule should be Div. 5,6 or 7 with maybe a Div. 4 school of their choosing but for sure no Div. 3 schools. Edison is in this same boat too and PCs numbers have been dropping too. I just have a hard time that Margaretta and Willard are getting free passes and other schools are expected to do what they won’t do. At some point the smaller schools will get tired of this. Study this out Huron with this years team probably is eliminated first round in D-4 . They're likely eliminated D-5 2nd round to any of the top 4. There is a chance they're still playing if D-6 because they would been up against Columbus Grove who cal preps has virtually even and calpreps has Huron beating anyone Grove played to this point. That would put them in the State Final Four of D-6. Their enrollment is D-5 by one boy. Matching up with their size. I believe this to be undisputed
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Post by sbclives on Nov 21, 2022 16:00:10 GMT -5
the LAKE needs to find someone else. This is silly!! You're like the big bully on the corner that picks a fight with the kid they beat the crap out of. As the saying goes Pick on someone your own size! With the rationale that they’ve come up with I guess Vermilion and Norwalk need to be sent to the River Minor Leagues. If you stink then to the River you go. At least that’s what I get with the Margaretta and Willard treatment.
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Post by todd on Nov 21, 2022 16:23:54 GMT -5
what are you teaching the kids when you run from the competition That making the playoffs is more important than playing “Tommy Toughguy”
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Post by don on Nov 21, 2022 16:45:18 GMT -5
what are you teaching the kids when you run from the competition That making the playoffs is more important than playing “Tommy Toughguy” you’re a burnout Todd
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Post by sbclives on Nov 21, 2022 17:05:50 GMT -5
what are you teaching the kids when you run from the competition That making the playoffs is more important than playing “Tommy Toughguy” Toad, isn’t that the role they are trying to be when beating up on little guys like St. Joe and Calvert. It sounds like being the tough guy is important to them just in a different way.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Nov 21, 2022 19:20:49 GMT -5
I miss the days when Calvert and SJCC were very competitive in old SBC
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