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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 13:55:05 GMT -5
So now is it the McCord or Brown era? My guess is on Mccord. I was thinking Brown. McCord has 2 years in the system and was the QB that threw all the passes to Marvin Harrison Jr when they were in high school. IF it's Brown, then McCord leaves and the backup is a true Freshman from South Dakota.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 13:58:56 GMT -5
The defense still isn’t fixed. Way too many big plays given up. Knowles is paid way too much money to constantly be doing this. Is Georgia's defense broken? The BEST defense in the country couldn't stop Ohio State's depleted offense. How much does their D-coordinator make?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 14:04:18 GMT -5
14 point leads against both Michigan and Georgia and the defense can’t keep it. Just terrible. I thought Georgia and Michigan's defenses, THE 2 best defenses in the country, looked worse than Ohio State's Let's consider this. The way college football is constructed these days. It is THE best offenses, that are lucky enough to stay healthy and score the last TD or Field goal in a game are the ones that will win National Titles.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 1, 2023 14:09:50 GMT -5
The defense still isn’t fixed. Way too many big plays given up. Knowles is paid way too much money to constantly be doing this. Is Georgia's defense broken? The BEST defense in the country couldn't stop Ohio State's depleted offense. How much does their D-coordinator make? I see people keep making these comparisons. No, Georgia’s defense is not broken, they’re obviously proven by the last number of seasons, including last years title and most likely winning it again this year. Ohio State has had defensive issues for about 4 straight seasons now and doesn’t seem to be getting much better yet, at least in the premier games.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 14:11:38 GMT -5
His rectum. Is that the worst kick in the history of kicks? Maybe you should direct some of that venom at Day for setting him up to fail. Could have easily picked up a couple yards on the ground on third down and centered the ball. Instead he got greedy and left Ruggles kicking from fifty on a hash. Day and company had a great night but this wasn’t their best moment. More U of M ignorance. A couple of yards would NEVER help that field goal attempt. The hash from 50 is not as extreme as one from the hash at the 5. Any 6th grade geometry student knows that. Ohio State's depleted offense came within a field goal in the last few seconds of beating the best defense in the country.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 14:15:51 GMT -5
After the Michigan game Ohio Nation wanted Day fired. Do the research. Not only on here but nationwide. "Ohio Nation" ? Know nothing nobody.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 14:20:38 GMT -5
So now is it the McCord or Brown era? My guess is on Mccord. Possibly neither. I've been hearing rumblings of someone of high caliber and significance, destined for the Buckeyes via the transfer portal. You never know and always be prepared for surprises. Elite programs like Ohio State are a natural gravitational destination. DO NOT believe anyone with that rumbling. He would be akin to a drug dealer. IF Ohio State gets a QB from the Portal then McCord AND Brown leaves and they both have more ability and time in Day's system, a difficult one, than a QB in the Portal.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 14:28:33 GMT -5
Is Georgia's defense broken? The BEST defense in the country couldn't stop Ohio State's depleted offense. How much does their D-coordinator make? I see people keep making these comparisons. No, Georgia’s defense is not broken, they’re obviously proven by the last number of seasons, including last years title and most likely winning it again this year. Ohio State has had defensive issues for about 4 straight seasons now and doesn’t seem to be getting much better yet, at least in the premier games. Typical.....SO you think with the previous D-Coordinator Ohio State wins this game?? LOL THIS year Ohio State has the 15th ranked defense in the country. Last year Ohio State had the 38th ranked defense. A SIGNIFICANT increase in effectiveness in just one year under Knowles.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 1, 2023 14:53:10 GMT -5
I see people keep making these comparisons. No, Georgia’s defense is not broken, they’re obviously proven by the last number of seasons, including last years title and most likely winning it again this year. Ohio State has had defensive issues for about 4 straight seasons now and doesn’t seem to be getting much better yet, at least in the premier games. Typical.....SO you think with the previous D-Coordinator Ohio State wins this game?? LOL THIS year Ohio State has the 15th ranked defense in the country. Last year Ohio State had the 38th ranked defense. A SIGNIFICANT increase in effectiveness in just one year under Knowles. The defense wasn’t able to step in the two biggest games this year. Knowles going to Cover 0 in both games cost this team points every time. No reason to go Cover 0 with a 14 point lead.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jan 1, 2023 15:24:06 GMT -5
Two passing plays when you’re on the edge of your kicker’s range. Run twice and get 6-8 yards. What if there was a fumble? 50 yards was well within his range. He can make a 60 yarder. That shank wouldn't have been made with 6-8 more yards. In the words of Woody Hayes himself regarding the pass three things can happen and two are bad. Sure, lots of bad things COULD have happened. Off sides, holding, etc. Fewer bad things can happen handing the ball off. The running game was getting some yardage which leads me to the more important part of my post. There is a mental aspect to sports. IMO the younger the athlete the greater the mental/pure physical attribute ratio is. You can give him a 50 yarder at the end of his range or a 42 yarder that he is 100% from. Which is mentally easier for a kid?
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Post by baldref on Jan 1, 2023 16:20:19 GMT -5
Several things have to be perfect on any field goal attempt, especially a long game winning attempt. Was snap perfect? Was placement solid and correct? Was field position optimal? Any of those things can b throw off timing etc. Was the osu long snapper who entered the portal today the snapper on this? I don't know. Just a sad end to otherwise great performance and game
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Post by baldref on Jan 1, 2023 16:28:48 GMT -5
Don't know when the snapper entered the portal. Was it a new long snapper for the kick? Again. I don't know. WF orsports jock, do you know?
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Post by wetsu on Jan 1, 2023 19:03:10 GMT -5
I think the Knowles hire will work out although I'm with ronburgandy on the pure man coverage thing. There were coverage mismatches and problems arose when the blitzes didn't land. Whether it was scheme, inexperience or a lack of personnel I'm not sure. Perhaps a mix of the three. It might be an unpopular opinion but I think that the Big Ten is always better with a representative Michigan team, I just think Harbaugh made it about himself for too long.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 1, 2023 19:18:32 GMT -5
I truly do think that Knowles can be good here but he needs to change up his philosophy a bit and how he does things. Some of his calls may work against the Rutgers and Marylands of the world but not Michigan and Georgia or Alabama. Just like Day needs scrap the bubble screens on offense, Knowles needs to scrap cover 0.
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Post by wetsu on Jan 1, 2023 21:59:00 GMT -5
I truly do think that Knowles can be good here but he needs to change up his philosophy a bit and how he does things. Some of his calls may work against the Rutgers and Marylands of the world but not Michigan and Georgia or Alabama. Just like Day needs scrap the bubble screens on offense, Knowles needs to scrap cover 0. I'm a little puzzled by this too. He comes from the Big 12 which is innovative in defending spread offenses so I need to review the games again because I'd like to know how much time was spent in the 3-high safety look. I didn't record any of their games so it could be a while. You run Cov 0 when you want to bring six so they must have struggled to get pressure from the D-line. Where was Tuimoloau? He seldom won in the pass rush after looking like the second coming of Chase Young against Penn St. There's a personnel gap that shouldn't happen at Ohio State. The secondary still looks lost at times like in the prior two seasons, I don't get it. People say that it can't be the players because they are 4- and 5-star studs out of high school so what is it, coaching? Did Larry Johnson regress as a defensive football coach?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 22:08:39 GMT -5
Several things have to be perfect on any field goal attempt, especially a long game winning attempt. Was snap perfect? Was placement solid and correct? Was field position optimal? Any of those things can b throw off timing etc. Was the osu long snapper who entered the portal today the snapper on this? I don't know. Just a sad end to otherwise great performance and game ALL of those need to happen to perfection if a 30 or 50 yarder. The stress of all those things to happen to perfection to get into the National Title game., is impossible to practice for. You are either ready or not. The closest thing to it was done by URban in practice when he stood within a foot of the kicker and holder in practice when they were practicing field goals
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 22:11:43 GMT -5
I truly do think that Knowles can be good here but he needs to change up his philosophy a bit and how he does things. Some of his calls may work against the Rutgers and Marylands of the world but not Michigan and Georgia or Alabama. Just like Day needs scrap the bubble screens on offense, Knowles needs to scrap cover 0. I'm a little puzzled by this too. He comes from the Big 12 which is innovative in defending spread offenses so I need to review the games again because I'd like to know how much time was spent in the 3-high safety look. I didn't record any of their games so it could be a while. You run Cov 0 when you want to bring six so they must have struggled to get pressure from the D-line. Where was Tuimoloau? He seldom won in the pass rush after looking like the second coming of Chase Young against Penn St. There's a personnel gap that shouldn't happen at Ohio State. The secondary still looks lost at times like in the prior two seasons, I don't get it. People say that it can't be the players because they are 4- and 5-star studs out of high school so what is it, coaching? Did Larry Johnson regress as a defensive football coach? Georgia and all their stud d-linemen couldn't get to CJ, only all out or unusual blitzes could Larry Johnson is fine. The Bosa's and Chase Young were generational pass rushers. Ohio State fans got used to it after seeing those 3 in back to back years for 6 years in a a row. No one since has had the "fast twitch" those 3 hand. We might not see it again for another 20 years. You can't name a college tram before or since that have had 3 players like that in a row.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 22:14:42 GMT -5
I truly do think that Knowles can be good here but he needs to change up his philosophy a bit and how he does things. Some of his calls may work against the Rutgers and Marylands of the world but not Michigan and Georgia or Alabama. Just like Day needs scrap the bubble screens on offense, Knowles needs to scrap cover 0. They worked against Oklahoma and Texas as well as the bottom half of their league. Did Ohio State throw a bubble screen in this game?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 22:18:13 GMT -5
Don't know when the snapper entered the portal. Was it a new long snapper for the kick? Again. I don't know. WF orsports jock, do you know? Watch the replay of the missed field goal, the snap looks good. BUT, you will see the holder immediately put his head down and Ruggles pat him on the helmet, as if to say "it's ok".
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 1, 2023 22:26:08 GMT -5
Typical.....SO you think with the previous D-Coordinator Ohio State wins this game?? LOL THIS year Ohio State has the 15th ranked defense in the country. Last year Ohio State had the 38th ranked defense. A SIGNIFICANT increase in effectiveness in just one year under Knowles. The defense wasn’t able to step in the two biggest games this year. Knowles going to Cover 0 in both games cost this team points every time. No reason to go Cover 0 with a 14 point lead. He went to cover 0 A LOT less in this game. Now....the players are supposed to disguise which cover it is....maybe someone is tipping it. There is talk going around that Georgia had someone taping the Ohio State practices... outside of the coverages being know, 2 plays that I saw suggest they did. The fake punt....was immediately detected upstairs and called down to have a time out called. That AND and the time CJ ran an option that failed. They had a LB standing there waiting, without a flinch. On a play that had not been run all year, EXCEPT in the practices in the dome. In Georgia's biggest game of the year they could not stop Ohio State's depleted offense until AFTER Marvin went down.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Jan 2, 2023 3:29:19 GMT -5
You can just hand the title to Georgia now. Sucks we don’t get to play TCU in the natty. Would’ve been a easy chip if we would’ve just finished the game out against the dawgs.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 2, 2023 6:08:20 GMT -5
It’s probably of little solace to the players and coaches,,, but I really think OSU seriously improved their image in the country on the whole . After the Mich performance, people were really questioning Day and OSU altogether. Doing what we did and almost winning this game despite being without so many pieces ,,,really showed that there’s something great going on In Columbus.
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Post by winonesoon on Jan 2, 2023 10:16:30 GMT -5
COLLEGE Football is a joke ! Both Michigan and Ohio State got Jobbed. By the replay Officials. Take A touchdown away from Michigan in replay, Don't call targeting on Georgia . also if you watch it should have called motion on Georgia on the two point play, the guy who caught the pass never came set before the snap. the line was not set . change fourth down play and give Georgia a first down.Espn control this, they pick who they want to win.
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Post by baldref on Jan 2, 2023 16:29:08 GMT -5
Some thoughts from eSECpn's Adam Rittenberg of the playoff loss and OSU's defense....
"The cornerbacks played better, but once again finished without an interception, meaning the Buckeyes did not get an interception from its secondary all season....
After giving up 45 points on 530 yards in the final game of the season to Michigan, Ohio State gave up 42 points on 533 yards to Georgia in Saturday nights Peach Bowl,... For the second game in a row, Ohio State gave up a program worst number of yards per play as Georgia averaged 8.8 yards per play on 60 plays, after Michigan averaged 8.83 yards per play on the smae number of plays in the Buckeyes previous contest."
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Post by fanofthegame on Jan 2, 2023 16:39:35 GMT -5
Some thoughts from eSECpn's Adam Rittenberg of the playoff loss and OSU's defense.... "The cornerbacks played better, but once again finished without an interception, meaning the Buckeyes did not get an interception from its secondary all season.... After giving up 45 points on 530 yards in the final game of the season to Michigan, Ohio State gave up 42 points on 533 yards to Georgia in Saturday nights Peach Bowl,... For the second game in a row, Ohio State gave up a program worst number of yards per play as Georgia averaged 8.8 yards per play on 60 plays, after Michigan averaged 8.83 yards per play on the smae number of plays in the Buckeyes previous contest." Great stats. Clearly the defense needs some work. Receiver U needs to work toward DB U. You almost have to try not to get one INT all season.
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Post by baldref on Jan 2, 2023 16:54:24 GMT -5
Osu had interceptions but according to him, none by the secondary. Where's Jack Tatum and Denzel ward when we need em??? Lol
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Post by dude on Jan 2, 2023 17:21:06 GMT -5
Some thoughts from eSECpn's Adam Rittenberg of the playoff loss and OSU's defense.... "The cornerbacks played better, but once again finished without an interception, meaning the Buckeyes did not get an interception from its secondary all season.... After giving up 45 points on 530 yards in the final game of the season to Michigan, Ohio State gave up 42 points on 533 yards to Georgia in Saturday nights Peach Bowl,... For the second game in a row, Ohio State gave up a program worst number of yards per play as Georgia averaged 8.8 yards per play on 60 plays, after Michigan averaged 8.83 yards per play on the smae number of plays in the Buckeyes previous contest." Great stats. Clearly the defense needs some work. Receiver U needs to work toward DB U. You almost have to try not to get one INT all season. OSU had 10 INTs on the season before last nights game. 5 of them came from Hickman, Ransom and McCallister.
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Post by baldref on Jan 2, 2023 17:29:28 GMT -5
Great stats. Clearly the defense needs some work. Receiver U needs to work toward DB U. You almost have to try not to get one INT all season. OSU had 10 INTs on the season before last nights game. That's why I quoted him directly. McAllister had 3 and Ransom 1.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jan 2, 2023 18:06:20 GMT -5
Great stats. Clearly the defense needs some work. Receiver U needs to work toward DB U. You almost have to try not to get one INT all season. OSU had 10 INTs on the season before last nights game. 5 of them came from Hickman, Ransom and McCallister. Five maybe makes me feel a little better!?! There are defensive backfields that can do that in two games.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 2, 2023 21:25:33 GMT -5
We have got to get corners who can run and still locate the ball and pick it or at least knock away.
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