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Post by sportsfan15 on Mar 3, 2023 12:22:44 GMT -5
Felt the officiating from what I saw was inconsistent at best. Several very poor block/charge calls, shooting fouls when kids were truly straight up, ticky-tack hand check calls, etc. That stretch of poor shot selection in the 3rd quarter bit Shelby in the butt. However, if a few of them fall, it may have been the dagger. Very fun game to watch. this may sound dumb to some, but i truly enjoyed the effort of both teams. Played incredibly hard for 36 minutes. Also, enjoyed watching teammates pick each other up and refocus one another as a group when some of those poor calls were made. That shows great maturity and leadership as well as quality coaching on both sides. I believe these two programs will enjoy a few more battles next season as well.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 3, 2023 12:24:58 GMT -5
Seeing highlights from other venues on Twitter showcases how small of a venue AHS is for district play. Mansfield and Sandusky going d2 really handicapped our district's best choices for sites.
Saw plenty of people on the Lex side sitting in the aisles. Lots of standing room folks got a great view of that buzzer beater layup. Shelby had some stray seats at the top of our side. It could be better, but only Madison serves as a better choice. I think that's a little unfair to the SBC teams.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 12:35:03 GMT -5
IMO, Shelby lost the game at 3 key points. End of half, held ball for last shot for nearly minute, turned ball over and Lex scored. End of 3rd, held ball for last 25 of 30 seconds, turned ball over and Lex scored. End of OT, held ball for 20 of last 25 seconds (at least got a shot off), Lex rebounded and ran length of floor to score. The turnovers at half and end of 3rd quarter were huge and killer, IMO. Those two plays were potential total of 4 to 8 point play turnarounds. Lex better coached, better disciplined team. Remember Lex was playing short-handed also the entire game. Think Lex will give the Streaks huge problems with their discipline and length. Congrats to both teams on a fun game With Bruskotter in foul trouble Shelby and I believe not leaving the floor the entire game, coach did the right thing trying to shorten the game. If he fouls out earlier, Lex wins in regulation.
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Post by dude on Mar 3, 2023 12:38:39 GMT -5
Felt the officiating from what I saw was inconsistent at best. Several very poor block/charge calls, shooting fouls when kids were truly straight up, ticky-tack hand check calls, etc. That stretch of poor shot selection in the 3rd quarter bit Shelby in the butt. However, if a few of them fall, it may have been the dagger. Very fun game to watch. this may sound dumb to some, but i truly enjoyed the effort of both teams. Played incredibly hard for 36 minutes. Also, enjoyed watching teammates pick each other up and refocus one another as a group when some of those poor calls were made. That shows great maturity and leadership as well as quality coaching on both sides. I believe these two programs will enjoy a few more battles next season as well. 36 fouls called and 36 free-throws awarded in a district semi. Lexington and Shelby both had players foul out and Lex had two more with 4 fouls and their big guy has 3 in the first half and had to sit about half of the second quarter. Poor officiating in my opinion also. Regardless of the refs I thought the same thing, kids played hard and made it a very good game to watch.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 12:54:07 GMT -5
Seeing highlights from other venues on Twitter showcases how small of a venue AHS is for district play. Mansfield and Sandusky going d2 really handicapped our district's best choices for sites. Saw plenty of people on the Lex side sitting in the aisles. Lots of standing room folks got a great view of that buzzer beater layup. Shelby had some stray seats at the top of our side. It could be better, but only Madison serves as a better choice. I think that's a little unfair to the SBC teams.rsr Mansfield has been DII for several years. This is the first time Madison has been DI for some times. Ontario used to be in DIII, but will never be DIII again. Galion is DII but shrinking. Willard is DII for the first time in a long time. Lex has almost always been DII. Norwalk has been DII most years. Very problematic. ALL better choices than Ashland HS, which has always been DI. Tiffin is now DI, only been in their gym once, is that a possibility?
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Post by 419bossman on Mar 3, 2023 12:59:23 GMT -5
I don't mind the district choosing sites for the tournaments. What I would like to see is to have some back up plans just in case of this situation. let's take one example from this year. In the DI Girls Regional the semi-final games where hosted by Westerville North and after the semi-finals where over the state saw that the crowd would be huge and they needed to move it to another site. The State chose to go to Otterbein U. I know it could be tough to have an alternative site ready to go especially for workers. But if they are given a notice saying that a particular school could host a district final then I think the AD of the particular school can prepare for this type of occasion.
Example: Ashland HS District
Possible sites to host a district final, if this situation arises - Willard, Ontario, Galion, Madison, Mansfield Sr., Shelby.
The some questions to be asked. - are any of these teams still in the tournament - Can the gym seat over 2,000 people - Is there enough parking - Can the gym accommodate the media
this is just spit-balling but I don't think there a good way to do it
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 12:59:53 GMT -5
It was fine having this district at Ashland HS during covid year but we are now starting to see this venue is way too small. A LOT of things need to go back to the way they were in pre-covid years. All of which are more important than high school basketball.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 13:10:48 GMT -5
Shelby lost that game the moment Bruskotter fouled out. Kid went for 37. Actually Shelby lost the game when Lex hit a layup as time expired. Before that they were up without him. Unless you think Shelby only has one player. Shelby has the best player in the North West District that scored the same number of points as the total of all other players on Shelby's team. He had the ball in his hands at least 75% of the time and it looked as though all the other players usually chose not to take shots, deferring to him.
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Post by dude on Mar 3, 2023 13:21:14 GMT -5
If either of last nights games were officially a sellout, OHSAA will want a different site next season. And they should.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 13:27:35 GMT -5
I don't mind the district choosing sites for the tournaments. What I would like to see is to have some back up plans just in case of this situation. let's take one example from this year. In the DI Girls Regional the semi-final games where hosted by Westerville North and after the semi-finals where over the state saw that the crowd would be huge and they needed to move it to another site. The State chose to go to Otterbein U. I know it could be tough to have an alternative site ready to go especially for workers. But if they are given a notice saying that a particular school could host a district final then I think the AD of the particular school can prepare for this type of occasion. Example: Ashland HS District Possible sites to host a district final, if this situation arises - Willard, Ontario, Galion, Madison, Mansfield Sr., Shelby. The some questions to be asked. - are any of these teams still in the tournament - Can the gym seat over 2,000 people - Is there enough parking - Can the gym accommodate the media this is just spit-balling but I don't think there a good way to do it Not sure Shelby's new gym holds 2000. Besides I expect Shelby and Lex to most probably make the District tournament at least the next several years. Does Willard any longer hold a girl's District or Regional? The best that could happen would be if 2 or 3 were willing and able to be on notice maybe as late as the Sunday before the first District game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 13:30:12 GMT -5
If either of last nights games were officially a sellout, OHSAA will want a different site next season. And they should. Did the Ashland police count heads, to see if they kept under the number the Fire Department deems as THE number NOT to go over. I've been to places that happened
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Post by dude on Mar 3, 2023 13:34:32 GMT -5
I don't mind the district choosing sites for the tournaments. What I would like to see is to have some back up plans just in case of this situation. let's take one example from this year. In the DI Girls Regional the semi-final games where hosted by Westerville North and after the semi-finals where over the state saw that the crowd would be huge and they needed to move it to another site. The State chose to go to Otterbein U. I know it could be tough to have an alternative site ready to go especially for workers. But if they are given a notice saying that a particular school could host a district final then I think the AD of the particular school can prepare for this type of occasion. Example: Ashland HS District Possible sites to host a district final, if this situation arises - Willard, Ontario, Galion, Madison, Mansfield Sr., Shelby. The some questions to be asked. - are any of these teams still in the tournament - Can the gym seat over 2,000 people - Is there enough parking - Can the gym accommodate the media this is just spit-balling but I don't think there a good way to do it Looking at the way the bracket was set, Galion, Ontario and Norwalk would have all required major upsets to make it to District. Those 3 could be on the clock from the get go. Willard is a small floor but could be included in that mix. Once the sectional finals were done on Friday, a district site for the following Thursday could have been selected. teams do it for football. I have have seen some fall soccer tournament games get moved with a days notice.
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Post by sbclives on Mar 3, 2023 14:41:10 GMT -5
If either of last nights games were officially a sellout, OHSAA will want a different site next season. And they should. Did the Ashland police count heads, to see if they kept under the number the Fire Department deems as THE number NOT to go over. I've been to places that happened Ok, Fire Marshall Bill
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Post by dude on Mar 3, 2023 15:17:07 GMT -5
Did the Ashland police count heads, to see if they kept under the number the Fire Department deems as THE number NOT to go over. I've been to places that happened Ok, Fire Marshall Bill Nobody would have to count "heads". Every AD should know his gyms capacity and would shut down ticket sales when that number is reached.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 3, 2023 16:02:05 GMT -5
I don't think it was oversold. If you put some Lex fans over on the Shelby side, everyone would have had a seat.
Logic says why that ain't happening, folks wanna be with their kin. But I didn't see anything that suggested overselling.
Variable district sites is a good idea. I'm not the one dealing with the implementation, but it sounds like it could work.
Personally, I don't see much of an issue with Tiffin hosting. Richland area D2 schools already benefit from sectionals being in our backyard. I haven't been in Tiffins gym in a decade. I thought the bleachers there were a little subpar though the seating I believe would be sufficient.
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Post by cbus on Mar 3, 2023 16:18:42 GMT -5
I thought I heard on the broadcast there were 1,500 people viewing the game on OH Report.
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Post by whippetfan on Mar 3, 2023 16:53:04 GMT -5
I was told both Senior and Sandusky are very close to the cutoff for D2 so it might be possible they are both D1 next year. If that’s the case one of those gyms becomes available. Or the other alternative is someone with deep pockets builds a 3-4,000 seat event center in Richland County. I’m sure it could be used for more things than high school basketball games.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 20:01:02 GMT -5
Did the Ashland police count heads, to see if they kept under the number the Fire Department deems as THE number NOT to go over. I've been to places that happened Ok, Fire Marshall Bill Ok, Carl Spackler
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 20:02:32 GMT -5
I was told both Senior and Sandusky are very close to the cutoff for D2 so it might be possible they are both D1 next year. If that’s the case one of those gyms becomes available. Or the other alternative is someone with deep pockets builds a 3-4,000 seat event center in Richland County. I’m sure it could be used for more things than high school basketball games. Willard or Norwalk would be more centrally located in District
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 3, 2023 20:04:25 GMT -5
Nobody would have to count "heads". Every AD should know his gyms capacity and would shut down ticket sales when that number is reached. "Should" and "would" are the operative words.
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Post by dude on Mar 4, 2023 7:32:27 GMT -5
I was told both Senior and Sandusky are very close to the cutoff for D2 so it might be possible they are both D1 next year. If that’s the case one of those gyms becomes available. Or the other alternative is someone with deep pockets builds a 3-4,000 seat event center in Richland County. I’m sure it could be used for more things than high school basketball games. The D1 bottom looks like it has been lowering as schools get smaller so it could happen.
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Post by dude on Mar 4, 2023 7:41:21 GMT -5
If that would happen it may also take Norwalk with them.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Mar 4, 2023 10:01:11 GMT -5
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Post by edchambers on Mar 4, 2023 12:27:11 GMT -5
Sold out.
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Post by 419bossman on Mar 4, 2023 17:33:44 GMT -5
Results from today's game
Sandusky- 75 Lexington- 67
Lexington had over 30 TOs
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Post by 419bossman on Mar 4, 2023 17:36:53 GMT -5
Results from the Northeast District
Lutheran West- 62 East- 45
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 4, 2023 17:40:58 GMT -5
Results from today's game Sandusky- 75 Lexington- 67 Lexington had over 30 TOs 33 to be exact, per the OH Report who broadcast the game. Lucky to be as close as it was up until the end with that many.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Mar 5, 2023 1:13:03 GMT -5
Congratulations to the Streaks!
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