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Post by 419bossman on Jan 22, 2023 14:51:29 GMT -5
Week 3 Rankings
1. Sandusky 13-1 2. Shelby 13-2 3. Lexington 13-1 4. Bellevue 11-3 5. Mansfield Sr. 9-5 6. Perkins 10-4 7. Willard 9-8 8. Ontario 6-7 9. Norwalk 7-9 10. Galion 6-9 11. Clear Fork 6-10 12. Vermilion 5-11
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Post by cbus on Jan 23, 2023 6:25:26 GMT -5
Lexington at Shelby on 2/14!! How did Shelby lose to Madison?
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Post by dude on Jan 23, 2023 8:53:18 GMT -5
Lexington at Shelby on 2/14!! How did Shelby lose to Madison? Have you seen Madison play? I have seen them a few times and they are much better then if you are just looking at their record. Would compete for the top spot in the MOAC, since you referenced Shelby.
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Post by 419bossman on Jan 23, 2023 9:48:45 GMT -5
We can all agree that Sandusky, Lexington, and Shelby will more than likely be going to Ashland. So who could be that 4th team?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 23, 2023 15:46:47 GMT -5
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Post by cbus on Jan 24, 2023 6:56:11 GMT -5
Lexington at Shelby on 2/14!! How did Shelby lose to Madison? Have you seen Madison play? I have seen them a few times and they are much better then if you are just looking at their record. Would compete for the top spot in the MOAC, since you referenced Shelby. I saw them play Crestview (streaming). Small sample but I thought they had 2 really good players-the center and I think a freshman guard.
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2023 8:15:50 GMT -5
Have you seen Madison play? I have seen them a few times and they are much better then if you are just looking at their record. Would compete for the top spot in the MOAC, since you referenced Shelby. I saw them play Crestview (streaming). Small sample but I thought they had 2 really good players-the center and I think a freshman guard. It may have been an average game for them and they too undefeated Crestview to 2OT. They did not shoot well in that game. Their big guy had about 40 in that game.
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2023 8:40:57 GMT -5
Madison would probably be at least a top 3 team in the MOAC if not the top 1. I would even bet money that 2-13 West Holmes would be in the top half of the MOAC if they played the schedule.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 11:13:23 GMT -5
Madison would probably be at least a top 3 team in the MOAC if not the top 1. I would even bet money that 2-13 West Holmes would be in the top half of the MOAC if they played the schedule. Is West Holmes not playing their schedule?
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 11:13:49 GMT -5
I saw them play Crestview (streaming). Small sample but I thought they had 2 really good players-the center and I think a freshman guard. It may have been an average game for them and they too undefeated Crestview to 2OT. They did not shoot well in that game. Their big guy had about 40 in that game. Who’s big guy?
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jan 24, 2023 11:17:21 GMT -5
I'm assuming Madison's big guy, Jeffries. He had 35+ against Shelby. I've seen he has had several big games like that this year.
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2023 11:52:45 GMT -5
Madison would probably be at least a top 3 team in the MOAC if not the top 1. I would even bet money that 2-13 West Holmes would be in the top half of the MOAC if they played the schedule. Is West Holmes not playing their schedule? If they played an MOAC team's schedule.
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2023 11:53:11 GMT -5
It may have been an average game for them and they too undefeated Crestview to 2OT. They did not shoot well in that game. Their big guy had about 40 in that game. Who’s big guy? Madison's.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 24, 2023 13:33:11 GMT -5
Lexington at Shelby on 2/14!! How did Shelby lose to Madison? Madson was 1st game of the season. In Shelby's 2nd game, they only beat Pleasant by 3. Not privy to what happend after that, but something definitely changed.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 24, 2023 15:04:15 GMT -5
Madison would probably be at least a top 3 team in the MOAC if not the top 1. I would even bet money that 2-13 West Holmes would be in the top half of the MOAC if they played the schedule. Madison top 1 in the MOAC?? RV beat Ontario by 30 and 20. Lex beat Ontario by 10. Madison beat Ontario by 9. AND Shelby beat RV by 16. Madison lost to 2-13 Oregon Clay. Madson lost to Wooster who lost to 2 win West Holmes by 15 and only beat West holmes by 2 in their first meeting. IMO Madison wouldn't beat Harding the way Harding is playing now. Yes Shelby lost to Madison the first game of the season and Shelby only beat Pleasant by 3 in the 2nd game of the season. THEN something happened in Shelby, until a MUCH improved Harding team beat them. How does WH get in the top half of the MOAC with Shelby, RV, Harding and Madison in it? Madison top 3 maybe, but not top 1 THINK about it.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 24, 2023 15:13:14 GMT -5
What is very telling is that 13-2 Shelby from the weak MOAC is still ahead of 13-1 Lex from the powerful OCC.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 15:22:10 GMT -5
What is very telling is that 13-2 Shelby from the weak MOAC is still ahead of 13-1 Lex from the powerful OCC. I think what is most telling about that is, Shelby could and can compete in the OCC.
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2023 15:56:36 GMT -5
What is very telling is that 13-2 Shelby from the weak MOAC is still ahead of 13-1 Lex from the powerful OCC. I think what is most telling about that is, Shelby could and can compete in the OCC. They most surely could and wanted to. The MOAC was a back-up plan they didn't really want.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 16:35:34 GMT -5
I think what is most telling about that is, Shelby could and can compete in the OCC. They most surely could and wanted to. The MOAC was a back-up plan they didn't really want. Would love to see Shelby take that open spot in the OCC. Willard would be a good fit in the MOAC.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Jan 24, 2023 17:03:10 GMT -5
They most surely could and wanted to. The MOAC was a back-up plan they didn't really want. Would love to see Shelby take that open spot in the OCC. Willard would be a good fit in the MOAC. That would be cool. But West Holmes would vote no again. And would Shelby want to travel to New Philadelphia? Probably not....
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Jan 24, 2023 17:11:45 GMT -5
They most surely could and wanted to. The MOAC was a back-up plan they didn't really want. Would love to see Shelby take that open spot in the OCC. Willard would be a good fit in the MOAC. That would be cool. But West Holmes would vote no again. And would Shelby want to travel to New Philadelphia? Probably not....
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 17:12:37 GMT -5
Would love to see Shelby take that open spot in the OCC. Willard would be a good fit in the MOAC. That would be cool. But West Holmes would vote no again. And would Shelby want to travel to New Philadelphia? Probably not.... I really don’t see NP as a long term fit in the OCC. Shelby potentially could be a long term fit.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 24, 2023 23:37:38 GMT -5
What is very telling is that 13-2 Shelby from the weak MOAC is still ahead of 13-1 Lex from the powerful OCC. I think what is most telling about that is, Shelby could and can compete in the OCC. But can they win a title in the OCC? Not according to dude, who said middle of the pack Madison could win the MOAC basketball title this year, finishing ahead of Shelby,
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Post by A no.1 on Jan 25, 2023 5:30:42 GMT -5
That would be cool. But West Holmes would vote no again. And would Shelby want to travel to New Philadelphia? Probably not.... I really don’t see NP as a long term fit in the OCC. Shelby potentially could be a long term fit. The potential is not there and never will be as long as West Holmes has a vote.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2023 9:10:32 GMT -5
I really don’t see NP as a long term fit in the OCC. Shelby potentially could be a long term fit. The potential is not there and never will be as long as West Holmes has a vote. West Holmes currently has a junior and senior class of boys that has been carrying sports for a couple years. When they are gone there does not look to be anything in the pipeline to sustain competition. At this time they could act like Orrville and Clear Fork feeling the OCC is to big for them and look to get out. They have already been partially against being in a league with Dover. A few years back when the OCC was looking for a team they talked about going to 10 teams and having east/west divisions. WH wanted nothing to do with Dover and New Philly in a division.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2023 9:56:50 GMT -5
What about Shelby's "pipeline"? Could Shelby have won the OCC title in football this year?
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Post by baldref on Jan 25, 2023 11:45:23 GMT -5
What about Shelby's "pipeline"? Could Shelby have won the OCC title in football this year? That's the key. One good year in a sport does not translate into competitive seasons in ALL sports every year. That's why neither Shelby nor Ontario and even CF will join the occ or a big school richland County league in the near future.
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Post by cbus on Jan 25, 2023 16:12:45 GMT -5
The potential is not there and never will be as long as West Holmes has a vote. West Holmes currently has a junior and senior class of boys that has been carrying sports for a couple years. When they are gone there does not look to be anything in the pipeline to sustain competition. At this time they could act like Orrville and Clear Fork feeling the OCC is to big for them and look to get out. They have already been partially against being in a league with Dover. A few years back when the OCC was looking for a team they talked about going to 10 teams and having east/west divisions. WH wanted nothing to do with Dover and New Philly in a division. Where do you suppose West Holmes would go? They are too big for the KMAC (I think). They are kind of in the middle of nowhere.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2023 16:33:27 GMT -5
What about Shelby's "pipeline"? Could Shelby have won the OCC title in football this year? That's the key. One good year in a sport does not translate into competitive seasons in ALL sports every year. That's why neither Shelby nor Ontario and even CF will join the occ or a big school richland County league in the near future. I was told Shelby was looking at the OCC because of the good competition for when they were good and when they were down. One Shelby coach told me they think they can compete in the MOAC even when they have dips in talent. Their choice of the OCC was not to win league titles but to play better teams.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2023 16:34:43 GMT -5
West Holmes currently has a junior and senior class of boys that has been carrying sports for a couple years. When they are gone there does not look to be anything in the pipeline to sustain competition. At this time they could act like Orrville and Clear Fork feeling the OCC is to big for them and look to get out. They have already been partially against being in a league with Dover. A few years back when the OCC was looking for a team they talked about going to 10 teams and having east/west divisions. WH wanted nothing to do with Dover and New Philly in a division. Where do you suppose West Holmes would go? They are too big for the KMAC (I think). They are kind of in the middle of nowhere. They would probably look to the IVC first. Them maybe the PAC. It's all just talk and rumors at this point.
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