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Post by baldref on Jan 25, 2023 17:48:03 GMT -5
That's the key. One good year in a sport does not translate into competitive seasons in ALL sports every year. That's why neither Shelby nor Ontario and even CF will join the occ or a big school richland County league in the near future. I was told Shelby was looking at the OCC because of the good competition for when they were good and when they were down. One Shelby coach told me they think they can compete in the MOAC even when they have dips in talent. Their choice of the OCC was not to win league titles but to play better teams. Think that was probably during the SBC era for Shelby. Pretty sure if you'd check with most Shelby coaches now they are very happy where they're at. Same with student athletes. Why? Very competitive in the MOAC and still play bigger neighboring schools outside the league.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2023 18:34:49 GMT -5
I was told Shelby was looking at the OCC because of the good competition for when they were good and when they were down. One Shelby coach told me they think they can compete in the MOAC even when they have dips in talent. Their choice of the OCC was not to win league titles but to play better teams. Think that was probably during the SBC era for Shelby. Pretty sure if you'd check with most Shelby coaches now they are very happy where they're at. Same with student athletes. Why? Very competitive in the MOAC and still play bigger neighboring schools outside the league. It was the year after they joined the MOAC.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 26, 2023 17:41:58 GMT -5
One solution is to say goodbye to Eastern schools to the 77 League Louisville, Alliance, Marlington, Wooster, W Holmes, Dover, and NP. Let them find an 8th.
Then Ashland, Madison, Senior, Lexington, Shelby, Ontario, Harding, and River Valley join to form the NEW Ohio Heartland Conference. Oh wait....
No Clear Fork!!!!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 26, 2023 19:38:02 GMT -5
What about Galion, Pleasant and Highland?
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 26, 2023 20:05:10 GMT -5
I don't see Galion being overly thrilled at the idea
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 26, 2023 22:26:51 GMT -5
Where do they go? n10?
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 26, 2023 22:59:27 GMT -5
that would be a better fit
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Post by dude on Jan 27, 2023 9:00:22 GMT -5
One solution is to say goodbye to Eastern schools to the 77 League Louisville, Alliance, Marlington, Wooster, W Holmes, Dover, and NP. Let them find an 8th. Then Ashland, Madison, Senior, Lexington, Shelby, Ontario, Harding, and River Valley join to form the NEW Ohio Heartland Conference. Oh wait.... No Clear Fork!!!! I think the 6 Richland County schools are close enough in size to all be in the same league. From their you can find 2 or 4 teams in the immediate area to make everyone happy. The NCOC
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 27, 2023 10:04:19 GMT -5
Without doing any research, thinking back 20 years, I can't think of a League Title that would have been won in the OCC by Shelby, Ontario, Harding, CF, RV or Galion. "Being competitive" is fine, but a League Title now and then by someone in that group is needed to make them happy.
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2023 23:42:34 GMT -5
As of right now the seeding is
1 Sandusky 15 1 2 Shelby 14 2 3 Lexington 14 2 4 Bellevue 12 4 5 Mansfield Sr 10 6 6 Perkins 10 6 7 Willard 10 8 8 Ontario 8 7 9 Norwalk 8 9 10 Galion 6 10 11 Clear Fork 6 11 12 Vermilion 5 13
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 30, 2023 9:26:17 GMT -5
As even as I’ve ever seen it . Lex and Sandusky . Shelby on a given night too. Then about 5 teams equal as the 4th best team
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Post by gibby23 on Jan 30, 2023 13:59:08 GMT -5
Sandusky!!
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Post by gtab on Jan 31, 2023 12:45:16 GMT -5
that would be a better fit Absolutely not.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2023 22:01:47 GMT -5
If you had to choose between a Richland County League and the N10 which would it be?
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Post by gtab on Jan 31, 2023 22:44:13 GMT -5
If you had to choose between a Richland County League and the N10 which would it be? If you were to ask me that same thing, I'd respond by saying that I would hope that it never came down to "that" choice" ...... and leave it at that.
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Post by 419bossman on Feb 3, 2023 10:08:14 GMT -5
Any thoughts on how this draw will go? There will be four byes, who takes them? could the top 4 teams all takes bye or pass? Where would you want to play at? Who could be the best match-ups. One thing for sure who ever are the top 2 teams will more then likely be on opposite ends of the brackets.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 3, 2023 15:28:45 GMT -5
Neither the 3 or 4 seed will be a bowl of cherries for the 1 and 2 seeds.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Feb 3, 2023 16:58:37 GMT -5
I think Shelby goes after Willard.
Wait, wrong year
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 3, 2023 19:55:04 GMT -5
Maybe Willard goes after Shelby
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Post by marchmadness on Feb 3, 2023 22:20:12 GMT -5
Well if the seedings hold up, I'd think Mansfield will go right into Bellevue bracket. And if Perkins doesn't, Willard will likely follow in there as well. Bellevue got over the hump of a winning season, but they are trending down. OT win vs Vermilion, then back to back losses vs Willard and Tiffin. With that being said, it's all about matchups. I seem to remember Mansfield doing some interesting things with who they go after. Tomorrow's Mansfield/Sandusky game may tell us more.
Over the last 2 or 3 weeks: Trending up/staying hot: Sandusky, Shelby, Willard Neutral: Lexington, Mansfield Sr., Ontario, Norwalk, Galion, Clear Fork, Vermilion Trending down: Bellevue, Perkins
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Post by marchmadness on Feb 3, 2023 22:25:39 GMT -5
Also, Perkins may want to secure a win tomorrow vs. Margaretta or else they could slide a spot or two in the RPI for Sunday's draw, especially if Willard beats Lucas and Ontario beats Pleasant. I don't know enough about to RPI formula to forecast that, other than it's pretty close right now.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 3, 2023 22:55:59 GMT -5
Well if the seedings hold up, I'd think Mansfield will go right into Bellevue bracket. And if Perkins doesn't, Willard will likely follow in there as well. Bellevue got over the hump of a winning season, but they are trending down. OT win vs Vermilion, then back to back losses vs Willard and Tiffin. With that being said, it's all about matchups. I seem to remember Mansfield doing some interesting things with who they go after. Tomorrow's Mansfield/Sandusky game may tell us more. Over the last 2 or 3 weeks: Trending up/staying hot: Sandusky, Shelby, Willard Neutral: Lexington, Mansfield Sr., Ontario, Norwalk, Galion, Clear Fork, Vermilion Trending down: Bellevue, Perkins Ontario "trending" from 8-7 to 11-7 by Sunday..
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Post by dude on Feb 4, 2023 0:08:26 GMT -5
Also, Perkins may want to secure a win tomorrow vs. Margaretta or else they could slide a spot or two in the RPI for Sunday's draw, especially if Willard beats Lucas and Ontario beats Pleasant. I don't know enough about to RPI formula to forecast that, other than it's pretty close right now. Perkin at 10-7 with a loss to 12-7 Marg could slip below the Flashes. Willard is currently at 11-8 and could beat Lucas. But with Lucas at 15-3, even in a loss could stay above Ontario with a win over 8-9 Pleasant.
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Post by marchmadness on Feb 4, 2023 10:13:30 GMT -5
Well if the seedings hold up, I'd think Mansfield will go right into Bellevue bracket. And if Perkins doesn't, Willard will likely follow in there as well. Bellevue got over the hump of a winning season, but they are trending down. OT win vs Vermilion, then back to back losses vs Willard and Tiffin. With that being said, it's all about matchups. I seem to remember Mansfield doing some interesting things with who they go after. Tomorrow's Mansfield/Sandusky game may tell us more. Over the last 2 or 3 weeks: Trending up/staying hot: Sandusky, Shelby, Willard Neutral: Lexington, Mansfield Sr., Ontario, Norwalk, Galion, Clear Fork, Vermilion Trending down: Bellevue, Perkins Ontario "trending" from 8-7 to 11-7 by Sunday.. Trending up doesn't necessarily mean record, it means performance. Ontario beat Clear Fork by 60 early in the year and just recently had to go to OT to beat them. They beat Galion by 23 early in the year and beat them by 4. Just because they won games recently doesn't mean they are playing better or well. I don't have Norwalk trending up just because they beat Northwestern, Vermilion and South Central recently. Those teams aren't good. Lex isn't trending up because they beat Galion and Mount Vernon. IF Ontario wins a majority of their last 5 games (Pleasant, Harding, Crawford, Bellevue, Shelby) then I will say they are trending up.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 4, 2023 10:35:23 GMT -5
I thought this was in regard to seeding? Thus only games through tonight Saturday 2/4 are worthy of consideration, not those after seeding is completed this Sunday. "Trending" after this Saturday is immaterial. It's my understanding that how much a team wins or loses by IS NOT taken into consideration by MartinRPI. The above list is what the conversation was about. Which teams win and lose is the major consideration in "trends"
The Senior/Sandusky game tonight could have significant "trend" in seeding or even who would want to play whom
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Post by marchmadness on Feb 4, 2023 10:36:44 GMT -5
I am more referring to the draw and who wants to play who and who is capable of upsetting teams, winning games, etc.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Feb 4, 2023 12:36:21 GMT -5
I wholeheartedly agree about Norwalk; not necessarily playing better, but recent competition didn't offer much
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Post by malabar10 on Feb 4, 2023 13:39:12 GMT -5
Region 6
Ashland district has 9 teams at .500 or better.
Lake has 4.
Findlay has 3.
Ashland is going to be a survival of the fittest!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 4, 2023 14:39:06 GMT -5
I am more referring to the draw and who wants to play who and who is capable of upsetting teams, winning games, etc. IMO, no one is going to upset any of the top 3 seeds in the tournament.
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Post by dude on Feb 4, 2023 16:24:33 GMT -5
Region 6 Ashland district has 9 teams at .500 or better. Lake has 4. Findlay has 3. Ashland is going to be a survival of the fittest! This is true. Sandusky appears to be the clear favorite, but saying they are an easy choice to make it to regionals is more of a guess.
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