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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 17, 2016 9:44:01 GMT -5
8:00 ABC
For the second straight week the Buckeyes travel into a hostile night game environment against a conference rival that's coming off a bye week.
Ohio State leads the all time series 18-13, has won the last 4 matchups, and has also won the last 4 that were played at Happy Valley.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 17, 2016 12:13:53 GMT -5
Interesting stat, Ohio State is ranked #1 in the Big Ten in "pass efficiency". What ever that means.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Oct 17, 2016 18:37:25 GMT -5
Considering what PSU has done on Saturday night in recent years, this would be a trap game IMO. OSU is better, has the bigger, faster athletes, and should mop up Happy Valley with them.....but there is something to be said for a PSU white out on Saturday night under the lights and you know those PSU boys will be gunning. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I'll just keep my smart *** comments to myself this week.  |
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 21, 2016 13:01:05 GMT -5
OSU wins and wins handily.
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Post by baldref on Oct 21, 2016 14:36:43 GMT -5
Ohio State better learn to play four quarters of football or they could be in trouble beginning tonight and the rest of the season IMO.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 21, 2016 19:20:03 GMT -5
Ohio State better learn to play four quarters of football or they could be in trouble beginning tonight and the rest of the season IMO. Ohio State University football 2016, week 7: #2 ranked Associated Press, USA Today and Coaches poll #4 ranked rushing offense nationally #5 ranked pass defense nationally #3 ranked scoring defense nationally #7 ranked rushing defense nationally #5 ranked total defense nationally Yep, the Buckeyes are in mighty big trouble. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2016 14:21:10 GMT -5
Urban is 30-1 in regular season Big Ten games.
Forecast for 40MPH winds in Happy Valley today. Don't even think about a longer pass than 10 yards down field. Who runs the ball best and stops the run wins.
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 22, 2016 22:46:36 GMT -5
Well I was totally wrong on that one. Ohio State looked horrible tonight. I believe teams are figuring out how to game plan against them. I think Michigan will take us at home this year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 23:00:34 GMT -5
For 3 weeks now, I've been preparing myself for the big disappointment that we are going to lose, (and probably won't be in the playoff), because of the way we've been playing. Our over ranking has caught up to us, And Bama would have embarrassed us in the NC, (if we had luckily gotten there). There is # 1 Alabama, then a very distance #2 everyone else, Personally I can't stand Alabama, but they are much much better than everyone. Now that the pressure is off, (trying to live up to all that #2 hype), We can focus on winning out, and crapping on Michigan's playoff hopes. Go Buckeyes.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 22, 2016 23:36:32 GMT -5
So much for stats rankings. They are only good as your last game and no guarantee you will play well enough in your next game. The Buckeyes didn't get the job done tonight.
Offensive line missed a lot of assignments and special teams were a disaster in pissing away the lead.
Urban and his crew have a lot of work to do, to get this team back on track.
The season is certainly not lost with tonight's upset.
Winning out is imperative and that means defeating Michigan the final week to get in the B1G Championship game.
Win that, they can still make the playoffs.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Oct 23, 2016 11:41:28 GMT -5
Considering what PSU has done on Saturday night in recent years, this would be a trap game IMO. OSU is better, has the bigger, faster athletes, and should mop up Happy Valley with them.....but there is something to be said for a PSU white out on Saturday night under the lights and you know those PSU boys will be gunning. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I'll just keep my smart *** comments to myself this week. Rightfully afraid... we'll see if Urban can get the ship righted. I'm starting to wonder if we might still see JT at qb next year, especially if we take another "L" before seasons end. |
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Post by schwinn on Oct 23, 2016 13:21:00 GMT -5
Regressing instead of progressing!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 23, 2016 16:50:37 GMT -5
It looks like the 21 Freshman on the 2-deep have hit a wall.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 23, 2016 16:59:06 GMT -5
If Urban has any say in the matter, Ohio State never again play back to back 8:15 starts on the road in places known for their rowdy crowds when both teams had 2 weeks to prepare for the games.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 23, 2016 17:23:48 GMT -5
Considering what PSU has done on Saturday night in recent years, this would be a trap game IMO. OSU is better, has the bigger, faster athletes, and should mop up Happy Valley with them.....but there is something to be said for a PSU white out on Saturday night under the lights and you know those PSU boys will be gunning. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I'll just keep my smart *** comments to myself this week. Rightfully afraid... we'll see if Urban can get the ship righted. I'm starting to wonder if we might still see JT at qb next year, especially if we take another "L" before seasons end. That last sentence doesn't sound good for you. Did you know that the previous week against Wisconsin JT was given the Davey O'Brien Award for the best QB in the country that week? Did you know going into the Penn State game that Ohio State had the most efficient passing game in the Big Ten? Did you know against Penn State JT completed over 65% of his passes and if given the time to throw by his O-line could have easily been over 70%. Did you know that JT is in most experts Top 4 for the Heisman? If there should be any changes it should be on the offensive line. Did you you see how many times JT was sacked or almost sacked and had to throw it away or was flushed out of the pocket? Did you see that 90% of running plays gained fewer than 3 yards? Another change, play 6-2 215 Freshman Austin Mack and 6-4 190 Freshman Victor Binjimen instead of a couple of Ohio State's smallish Senior receivers. If JUST the Ohio State special teams had played average. You wouldn't mistakenly be talking about JT. |
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 23, 2016 17:32:34 GMT -5
If Urban has any say in the matter, Ohio State never again play back to back 8:15 starts on the road in places known for their rowdy crowds when both teams had 2 weeks to prepare for the games. Setting up this back to back scheduling nightmare couldn't be mere coincidence. It had to be by design of the the Big Ten schedulers. My question would be....why? |
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Post by Buckeye2b on Oct 23, 2016 17:59:12 GMT -5
Rightfully afraid... we'll see if Urban can get the ship righted. I'm starting to wonder if we might still see JT at qb next year, especially if we take another "L" before seasons end. That last second sentence doesn't make you look good. Did you know that the previous week against Wisconsin JT was given the Davey O'Brien Award for the best QB in the country that week? Did you know going into the Penn State game that Ohio State had the most efficient passing game in the Big Ten? Did you know against Penn State JT completed over 65% of his passes and if given the time to throw by his O-line could have easily been over 70%. If there should be any changes it should be on the offensive line. Did you you see how many times JT was sacked or almost sacked and had to throw it away or was flushed out of the pocket? Did you see that 90% of running plays gained fewer than 3 yards? Another change, play 6-2 215 Freshman Austin Mack and 6-4 190 Freshman Victor Binjimen instead of a couple of Ohio State's smallish Senior receivers. If JUST the Ohio State special teams had played average. You wouldn't mistakenly be talking about JT. You don't understand WHY I said that Willy... The mission isn't finished. He had to sit and watch Cardale win a NC... Then last year was..well,last year. And another loss this year would knock them out of the NC pic again. I have a suspicion that JT wants a NC maybe the worst of anyone on the team. I just don't get the feeling that kid cares about an accolade (Davey O'Brien award) you mentioned above, but rather what he can earn (earn is the operative word here) for his team at the end of the day. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 23, 2016 18:25:02 GMT -5
THE ONLY reason Cardale won the National title was because of TWO players, not named Cardale. Devin Smith to catch all of the jump balls Cardale threw and the best running back in the NFL today, who average over 230 yards rushing in those 3 games. Ohio State could lose TWO MORE regular season games and there is ZERO chance Urban replaces him. Where did I say JT cared about awards? Just mentioning them to point out that none of the O'Brien committee nor the Heisman committee would even think about replacing JT, just the not knowledgeable would.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Oct 23, 2016 23:05:41 GMT -5
THE ONLY reason Cardale won the National title was because of TWO players, not named Cardale. Devin Smith to catch all of the jump balls Cardale threw and the best running back in the NFL today, who average over 230 yards rushing in those 3 games. Ohio State could lose TWO MORE regular season games and there is ZERO chance Urban replaces him. Where did I say JT cared about awards? Just mentioning them to point out that none of the O'Brien committee nor the Heisman committee would even think about replacing JT, just the not knowledgeable would. Let's try again... I am surmising that JT would return to OSU rather than turn pro at the end of the season because he- as the starting QB - has a desire to win a NC with his team. I am surmising that he may feel that he has a mission to complete, much as Mike Doss did in 2002 and hence why Doss returned for his senior year. Thus, I am guessing that JT, who is being portrayed as the natural leader of his team and a stand up guy, will return to lead them his senior year. Clear now? |
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Post by schwinn on Oct 24, 2016 7:35:54 GMT -5
The defense will have there hands full against Nortwestern!
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Post by tori on Oct 24, 2016 15:31:29 GMT -5
Buckeye2b I think most everybody understood what you were saying about JT, but haven't you figured out by now Filmore just likes to argue?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 24, 2016 15:50:12 GMT -5
THE ONLY reason Cardale won the National title was because of TWO players, not named Cardale. Devin Smith to catch all of the jump balls Cardale threw and the best running back in the NFL today, who average over 230 yards rushing in those 3 games. Ohio State could lose TWO MORE regular season games and there is ZERO chance Urban replaces him. Where did I say JT cared about awards? Just mentioning them to point out that none of the O'Brien committee nor the Heisman committee would even think about replacing JT, just the not knowledgeable would. Let's try again... I am surmising that JT would return to OSU rather than turn pro at the end of the season because he- as the starting QB - has a desire to win a NC with his team. I am surmising that he may feel that he has a mission to complete, much as Mike Doss did in 2002 and hence why Doss returned for his senior year. Thus, I am guessing that JT, who is being portrayed as the natural leader of his team and a stand up guy, will return to lead them his senior year. Clear now? Gotcha, I thought everyone figured JT was coming back next year. He's a realist, not an NFL QB. The way I read your original post was that JT would be replaced next year if he had a couple of losses this year. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 24, 2016 15:51:42 GMT -5
Buckeye2b I think most everybody understood what you were saying about JT, but haven't you figured out by now Filmore just likes to argue? Clarity. |
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Post by DrTorch on Oct 24, 2016 16:02:35 GMT -5
what i have seen the last 2 weeks is an offense that is not as crisp because the young O-line has struggled a bit, and the skill positions have not separated themselves...not to mention @ OKL, @ WIS, @ PSU, with Wiscy and PSU both on their BYE week leading up to the OSU game...that is not an easy gauntlet to run
we are a young team, i think the over-reactors need to Aaron Rodgers "RELAX" and realize there is a lot of football to be played yet...the young Buckeyes are wounded and that should make them dangerous...the Michigan game now looms as they will probably be ranked ahead of us
i'm proud of what i've seen for the most part, altho honestly i expected Dontre Wilson and Curtis Samuel to be having better seasons than they have been having up to this point
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 24, 2016 16:08:38 GMT -5
I think Wilson's two year struggle with a broken foot has caused him to lose a step. The play Samuel ran for a long TD was never called again in the game. When Urban was asked about that in his presser today. He said that Samuel's touches was his responsibility, even if the plays coming down from the press box don't call his number enough.
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 25, 2016 6:57:32 GMT -5
OSU offense is becoming very one dimensional over the last 3 games. It is quite clear they are not practicing having JT throw downfield past 10-15 yards, as his accuracy is pretty right now. Nevertheless, OSU is young and their future is in their hands.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Oct 25, 2016 10:57:01 GMT -5
^^ I highly doubt they don't practice throwing the ball down field. It's more to do with WR's not creating separation. They only guys consistently open on pass plays are Samuel and Baugh...and neither are WRS!
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 25, 2016 11:49:06 GMT -5
He overshot guys wide open. Did this also against Wisc.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 25, 2016 16:54:06 GMT -5
A coach would MUCH rather have a pass over thrown than under thrown when a DB is in the area. Over thrown passes can't be intercepted, even a slightly under thrown pass can be intercepted. Only when a receiver is wide open by 10+ yards does the coach want the pass to be a little under thrown. A perfectly thrown pass, 40 yards down field, is the most difficult pass to complete, when there is a DB running with the receiver. If you would notice, that is the issue, the Ohio State receivers down field are not open AND when they might be open the O-line doesn't give JT the time to throw the pass. THE REAL issue.
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 26, 2016 11:27:26 GMT -5
Haha. Overthrown passes never get intercepted? I beg to differ, I see it all the time in both college and the NFL. The guys JT overthrew were wide open.
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