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Post by maddiev on Aug 23, 2023 17:26:59 GMT -5
Thought I'd Give It A Go!
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Post by don on Aug 23, 2023 17:56:46 GMT -5
With the best qb in the area in Roggow and the best skill in the area as well Tiffin will be tough to beat. This should be a good one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 19:50:06 GMT -5
You sound dumber every time you post. With the best qb in the area in Roggow and the best skill in the area as well Tiffin will be tough to beat. This should be a good one. |
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Aug 23, 2023 20:56:02 GMT -5
Chardon by 3 scores.
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Post by sbclives on Aug 23, 2023 21:07:42 GMT -5
You sound dumber every time you post. With the best qb in the area in Roggow and the best skill in the area as well Tiffin will be tough to beat. This should be a good one. Yeah. How dare he have an opinion on here. He should just be banned for having an opinion. |
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Post by bgsustudent19 on Aug 24, 2023 21:14:52 GMT -5
TC defense better be ready for Chardon and the apparent rushing attack. Donāt know much more than it looks like they ran all over their week 1 opponent. TC offense got going last week looked unstoppable for most of the 2nd quarter through 2nd half. Iāll take TC 34-21
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Post by fanofthefall on Aug 25, 2023 7:11:26 GMT -5
You sound dumber every time you post. With the best qb in the area in Roggow and the best skill in the area as well Tiffin will be tough to beat. This should be a good one. Not sure if this is the right place to post all of this, but I wanted to offer some of my insights from a guy that observes the SBC Lake objectively (at least I think I do). I agree that Perkins is the favorite to win the SBC Lake this year, but to say they are the clear favorite is too extreme. Perkins beat TC last year because they controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Perkins had a very good senior class last year with solid linemen and that seems to be not addressed. From a skill standpoint, to say that they outclass everyone is not true. If Perkins is so fast, how did Columbian beat Perkins in both the 4x100 and 4x200 at the SBC championship last spring? Tiffin ran all footballl guys and Koerper was injured. In my opinioin, Perkins and TC are very similar at the skill positions. Lesch is the reigning SBC player of the year and he absolutely deseved it last year. His stats were clearly the best mainly due to the fact he also had the most rushing attempts on the team. TC's philosophy is to spead the ball around more and to be more balanced. Both Lesch and Roggow are top level QBs and there is no clear better choice. I will take Brockington over any RB in the league. For him to carry the ball 20+ times a game and still play corner for most of the game at the level he does is remarkable. In my opinion, the receiving group for both teams is very similar. They both have a homerun guy, a shifty/crafty guy, and the possession receiver. In all likelihood, week 10 between Perkins and TC will determine the Lake title. To me, that game will ultimately be determined by who wins up front. This can obvioulsy be discussed more at a later date. As for the Chardon / Columbian game, Tiffin will need big plays to have a chance. The biggest question will be if the Tornadoes can match Chardon's physicality for 4 quarters. They will be, without a doubt, the most physical team TC faces throughtout the regular season. Should be a fun game to watch. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 8:03:24 GMT -5
Yeah, how dare you come to a grown manās defense over banter. Iām ashamed for you. You sound dumber every time you post. Yeah. How dare he have an opinion on here. He should just be banned for having an opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 8:12:55 GMT -5
Lesch is miles better than Roggow. 6ā4ā is the only trait Roggow has over Lesch. Track aināt helping you on the football field, besides Perkins are SBC champs in that too. Brockington finished 4th in the 4x100. Young-Collier went 1-2, celebrating at the finish lol. What did Brockington do last season? 40 yards, if that. Perkins beat Tiffin last season because they were outcoached AND outplayed, a Tiffin assistant said so himself. Koerper did nothing as well. Perkins wideouts are way better that Tiffin and that will be proven week 10. Again. You sound dumber every time you post. Not sure if this is the right place to post all of this, but I wanted to offer some of my insights from a guy that observes the SBC Lake objectively (at least I think I do).Ā I agree that Perkins is the favorite to win the SBC Lake this year, but to say they are the clear favorite is too extreme.Ā Perkins beat TC last year because they controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.Ā Perkins had a very good senior class last year with solid linemen and that seems to be not addressed.Ā Ā From a skill standpoint, to say that they outclass everyone is not true.Ā If Perkins is so fast, how did Columbian beat Perkins in both the 4x100 and 4x200 at the SBC championship last spring?Ā Tiffin ran all footballl guys and Koerper was injured.Ā In my opinioin, Perkins and TC are very similar at the skill positions.Ā Lesch is the reigning SBC player of the year and he absolutely deseved it last year.Ā His stats were clearly the best mainly due to the fact he also had the most rushing attempts on the team.Ā TC's philosophy is to spead the ball around more and to be more balanced.Ā Both Lesch and Roggow are top level QBs and there is no clear better choice.Ā I will take Brockington over any RB in the league.Ā For him to carry the ball 20+ times a game and still play corner for most of the game at the level he does is remarkable.Ā In my opinion, the receiving group for both teams is very similar.Ā They both have a homerun guy, a shifty/crafty guy, and the possession receiver.Ā In all likelihood, week 10 between Perkins and TC will determine the Lake title.Ā To me, that game will ultimately be determined by who wins up front.Ā This can obvioulsy be discussed more at a later date. As for the Chardon / Columbian game, Tiffin will need big plays to have a chance.Ā The biggest question will be if the Tornadoes can match Chardon's physicality for 4 quarters.Ā They will be, without a doubt, the most physical team TC faces throughtout the regular season.Ā Should be a fun game to watch. |
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Post by fanofthefall on Aug 25, 2023 8:46:59 GMT -5
I did say Perkins is the favorite to win the Lake again. All that I am saying is that it is not a given. Tiffin has the talent to beat them on any given Friday night. Lesch is a great high school QB, no debating that. The only QB that I saw was better was Holmes from Ross. I do not have the exact stats but I'm guessing that he either threw or ran the ball at least 75% of the time. That is why his stats are so great compared to others in the league. Perkins lost a lot of good players from last year's team and that needs to be noted. The 40ish yards you are eluding to is a direct correlation of the fact tha Perkins won up front. I agree that Perkins ourperformed Tiffin in all the areas you mentioned. But this is a different year and different teams. I truly hope that both teams are healthy come week 10 as I feel it will be a great game. Tiffin should play more inspired. Let's not wish away the next 8 weeks and enjoy the regular season for all the local teams.
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Post by bgsustudent19 on Aug 25, 2023 9:25:49 GMT -5
In a thread about TC vs Chardon, I am reading about Perkins vs TC from last year and track statsā¦.god forbid we keep it about the subject at hand.
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Post by todd on Aug 25, 2023 15:10:12 GMT -5
Lesch is miles better than Roggow. 6ā4ā is the only trait Roggow has over Lesch. Track aināt helping you on the football field, besides Perkins are SBC champs in that too. Brockington finished 4th in the 4x100. Young-Collier went 1-2, celebrating at the finish lol. What did Brockington do last season? 40 yards, if that. Perkins beat Tiffin last season because they were outcoached AND outplayed, a Tiffin assistant said so himself. Koerper did nothing as well. Perkins wideouts are way better that Tiffin and that will be proven week 10. Again. Not sure if this is the right place to post all of this, but I wanted to offer some of my insights from a guy that observes the SBC Lake objectively (at least I think I do).Ā I agree that Perkins is the favorite to win the SBC Lake this year, but to say they are the clear favorite is too extreme.Ā Perkins beat TC last year because they controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.Ā Perkins had a very good senior class last year with solid linemen and that seems to be not addressed.Ā Ā From a skill standpoint, to say that they outclass everyone is not true.Ā If Perkins is so fast, how did Columbian beat Perkins in both the 4x100 and 4x200 at the SBC championship last spring?Ā Tiffin ran all footballl guys and Koerper was injured.Ā In my opinioin, Perkins and TC are very similar at the skill positions.Ā Lesch is the reigning SBC player of the year and he absolutely deseved it last year.Ā His stats were clearly the best mainly due to the fact he also had the most rushing attempts on the team.Ā TC's philosophy is to spead the ball around more and to be more balanced.Ā Both Lesch and Roggow are top level QBs and there is no clear better choice.Ā I will take Brockington over any RB in the league.Ā For him to carry the ball 20+ times a game and still play corner for most of the game at the level he does is remarkable.Ā In my opinion, the receiving group for both teams is very similar.Ā They both have a homerun guy, a shifty/crafty guy, and the possession receiver.Ā In all likelihood, week 10 between Perkins and TC will determine the Lake title.Ā To me, that game will ultimately be determined by who wins up front.Ā This can obvioulsy be discussed more at a later date. As for the Chardon / Columbian game, Tiffin will need big plays to have a chance.Ā The biggest question will be if the Tornadoes can match Chardon's physicality for 4 quarters.Ā They will be, without a doubt, the most physical team TC faces throughtout the regular season.Ā Should be a fun game to watch. Great qb and player who deserved player of the year. Better qb than Roggow? Iāll take the qb with the D1 offers over the one who doesnāt because Iām going to guess that college coaches are better evaluators than all of us combined since thatās their job. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 15:39:04 GMT -5
You do that. Like I said, 6ā4ā is the reason for the āD1 offersā. Iām sure the Zips will light the world on fire with him at QB lolā¦Not the talent because like I said, he got locked up and holds the ball too long if itās not a smoke screen. Lesch outperformed him in EVERY METRIC last season and will do so again this season. We will agree to disagree.
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Post by todd on Aug 25, 2023 16:39:14 GMT -5
You do that. Like I said, 6ā4ā is the reason for the āD1 offersā. Iām sure the Zips will light the world on fire with him at QB lolā¦Not the talent because like I said, he got locked up and holds the ball too long if itās not a smoke screen. Lesch outperformed him in EVERY METRIC last season and will do so again this season. We will agree to disagree. And Iām sure Lesch will light world on fire at Tiffin. |
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Post by tchldad on Aug 25, 2023 19:07:39 GMT -5
21-14 at the half. TC is up.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Aug 25, 2023 20:41:30 GMT -5
Last I heard, Chardon 49-42 with 4 left
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Post by tchldad on Aug 25, 2023 20:59:48 GMT -5
Tc wins on the 2 pt conversion!!
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Post by dawsongolfer on Aug 25, 2023 21:21:49 GMT -5
This didn't age well You sound dumber every time you post. With the best qb in the area in Roggow and the best skill in the area as well Tiffin will be tough to beat. This should be a good one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 21:45:05 GMT -5
Gotta be objective here, what a win for Tiffin. Tough Chardon team for sure. Defense non existent both ways, Tornadoes may want to button that up b4 week 10 š
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Post by fanofthefall on Aug 25, 2023 21:49:11 GMT -5
You do that. Like I said, 6ā4ā is the reason for the āD1 offersā. Iām sure the Zips will light the world on fire with him at QB lolā¦Not the talent because like I said, he got locked up and holds the ball too long if itās not a smoke screen. Lesch outperformed him in EVERY METRIC last season and will do so again this season. We will agree to disagree. I do not go on here and bash kids from other players schools, not my style. Must be yours though. I hope you can can watch the tape of this game. Amazing is an understatement! I hope you can watch this game at some point. Roggow was a stud tonight! Gooding was a big play after after big play. Don't have the stats yet, but what a game. |
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Post by dawsongolfer on Aug 25, 2023 21:53:01 GMT -5
There's some crow waiting for you at the Clover Club. Gotta be objective here, what a win for Tiffin. Tough Chardon team for sure. Defense non existent both ways, Tornadoes may want to button that up b4 week 10 š |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 21:54:41 GMT -5
Didnāt bash anyone, said Lesch>>Roggow. Is what it is. Iāve seen them both live, head to head as a matter of fact. One dominant, the other lived on the turf with zero TD passes. Case closed. Iām sure it was an awesome shootout, good win for TC. You do that. Like I said, 6ā4ā is the reason for the āD1 offersā. Iām sure the Zips will light the world on fire with him at QB lolā¦Not the talent because like I said, he got locked up and holds the ball too long if itās not a smoke screen. Lesch outperformed him in EVERY METRIC last season and will do so again this season. We will agree to disagree. I do not go on here and bash kids from other players schools, not my style.Ā Must be yours though.Ā I hope you can can watch the tape of this game.Ā Amazing is an understatement!Ā I hope you can watch this game at some point.Ā Roggow was a stud tonight!Ā Gooding was a big play after after big play.Ā Don't have the stats yet, but what a game.Ā Ā |
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Post by fanofthefall on Aug 25, 2023 22:08:14 GMT -5
Two years ago, Tiffin beat Perkins. Lesch was the QB for Perkins and Roggow for Tiffin. I'm guessing Roggow outplayed Lesch that game because TC won easily. So the series is 1-1. Looks like week 10 is the rubber match.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Aug 26, 2023 0:02:33 GMT -5
Great win for the tornadoes
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Aug 26, 2023 0:57:18 GMT -5
Gotta be objective here, what a win for Tiffin. Tough Chardon team for sure. Defense non existent both ways, Tornadoes may want to button that up b4 week 10 š They did play Chardon, not Woodward nor an apparent down EC. When Perkins gets on Chardon's level, then we'll talk. You continue to be present KingsoftheSBC. Programs like Chardon prefer to be Ķings of the State |
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Aug 26, 2023 0:58:53 GMT -5
Great win for the tornadoes As ŵas other Northcoast proboards area Mansfield Senior over Canfield. Canfield and Chardon have been elite, recently |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Aug 26, 2023 8:49:11 GMT -5
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Post by kritz on Aug 26, 2023 11:51:55 GMT -5
Unbelievable performance from the TC passing game. Guy throwing balls into blanket coverage right into the receivers hands. Chardon with a lot of stupid over aggressive penalties.
What a game to watch.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Aug 27, 2023 0:00:11 GMT -5
Eh I think Perkins win over Woodward was more impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2023 1:49:12 GMT -5
Targeting call against Chardon on final drive, which was the absolute INCORRECT CALL, gifted Columbian the win. Check it out for yourselves, donāt take my word for it.
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