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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 6, 2016 15:21:01 GMT -5
Good to see Armstrong return to the stadium. Scary moment for both teams. Great game! Burrows looked good at the end. It is at times like these that we are reminded of things far more important than football and the game itself. After taking a big-time whooping, fans got a big ray of sunshine when Tommy walked onto the sidelines. This game could have been much worse for the Huskers, had J.T. been more on target. He missed wide open receivers on more than one occasion, overthrowing them badly. This is not the J.T. Barrett we have been used to. Although the pass game is starting to come along, still a long way from where they need to be. Encouraging?.......yes. JT will never complete 80% of his passes, just around 67% which most very good college QB's do.
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 6, 2016 15:24:23 GMT -5
Fillmore answer: Can Barrett win a game with his arm vs an elite defense with this WR corps? I think at some point he is going to have to, because Weber is underwhelming to me and Samuel has not improved.
I'm not sold that he can. Only that he will have to to win a National Title or possibly even a Big-10 title game.
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Post by galion on Nov 6, 2016 19:42:15 GMT -5
He'll have to ball out and win the Mich game before even worrying about those other 2.
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Post by Whittaker on Nov 6, 2016 21:07:13 GMT -5
PASSING---------------PCT----------YDS-----------AVG--------TDS-------INT--------RATING OSU---JT Barrett-------64.5%-------1,965----------7.4--------21---------4----------149.9 Bama--Jalen Hurts-----62.3%-------1,685----------7.6--------12---------6----------138.2
The Tide gets by with a running QB without a stellar arm. We can too.
I'm more concerned with the offensive line than anything else.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 7, 2016 2:06:04 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion, we have yet to see the best of J.T. Barrett.
My concerns for the OL have waned, after their solid, 4 qtr. performance vs. a good Nebraska defense. The learning curve for this group needs to stay to task, knowing the challenge the Michigan front four will present on the 26th.
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Post by baldref on Nov 7, 2016 11:35:05 GMT -5
In case anyone is wondering, should OSU beat scUM and win out, and scUM, PSU and OSU all finish the year with one loss in the division, here is the official tie-breaker scenario on who plays in the B10 championship game:
The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:
(a) If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. (b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 6 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.
2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division.
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents.
5. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative.
6. The representative will be chosen by random draw.
So, I admittedly am no math major, does this mean it will be decided by a random draw between OSU and scUM since PSU will have two overall losses and scUM and OSU will both only have one?
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Post by baldref on Nov 7, 2016 11:36:15 GMT -5
My bad, it looks like OSU would go, according to (b)!
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Post by baldref on Nov 7, 2016 11:43:55 GMT -5
Wouldn't be great if that happens and we could thank Mark May's Pitt Panthers for letting us play in the B10 championship and possibly the national playoffs?
There would be brown spots all over ESPN's chairs in that scenario!
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 7, 2016 12:50:38 GMT -5
Mark May foolishly, but not surprisingly, picked Nebraska to pull out a close one over the Buckeyes in the pre-game show. Still can't get out of my mind, Harbaugh's poor coaching decision to punt, with ten MSU defensive players poised on the defensive front. That decision cost the Buckeyes a spot in the Big Ten Championship and most likely a shot at Alabama. What a shame, the Buckeyes were clearly among the very best in college football the last few weeks of '15.
Ohio State/Michigan battle in Columbus this year, shouldn't be anything short of epic. Great for the Big Ten. The Conference has gained great ground this season on the SEC, who has a quite possible scenario of having a 4 loss representative of the eastern division vs. Alabama.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 7, 2016 16:33:30 GMT -5
Fillmore answer: Can Barrett win a game with his arm vs an elite defense with this WR corps? I think at some point he is going to have to, because Weber is underwhelming to me and Samuel has not improved. I'm not sold that he can. Only that he will have to to win a National Title or possibly even a Big-10 title game. You don't think Samuel had his best game of the year against Nebraska??? You don't think Weber can make long runs if this O-line makes holes to run through like the holes Zeke had last year?? JT can win a game against an elite defense if his O-line gives him time to throw, like ANY other QB for a Top-10 team.
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 7, 2016 17:30:02 GMT -5
Don't expect to much passing early in this game by Ohio State. Nebraska is 10th in the Big Ten in defending against the run, 79th in the country, Giving up 4.34 yards per carry. I do think they had their best games, against one of their worst foes.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 1:46:22 GMT -5
Explain how Nebraska lost in OT at Wisconsin, who ALL that are knowlegedable say is a Top 10 team.
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 8, 2016 10:36:13 GMT -5
Explain my balls. I don't think Barrett can win us a game throwing the ball. I hope I'm wrong because at some point he is going to have to.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2016 16:08:52 GMT -5
I don't want anything to do with having to explain your balls. If the Ohio State O-line doesn't open holes for the running game or protect the QB. Tom Brady couldn't win a game for "us", by "throwing the ball".
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 8, 2016 19:32:35 GMT -5
I don't want anything to do with having to explain your balls. If the Ohio State O-line doesn't open holes for the running game or protect the QB. Tom Brady couldn't win a game for "us", by "throwing the ball". So true and the reason most successful offenses have a preponderance of experienced, upper classmen manning the trenches. A down lineman may have all the physical tools, but timing, technique and personal discipline, takes a lot of coaching and reps to develop, multiple seasons in many cases. Encouraging was the fact that many of the snaps vs. the Huskers necessitated extended periods of sustained blocks. The holding calls were few in number. As WF points out, as the OL develops and improves, so will the offense.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 8, 2016 21:06:08 GMT -5
Latest college football playoff rankings: 1. Alabama 2. Clemson 3. Michigan 4. Washington 5. Ohio State 6. Louisville
4:19 PM - 8 Nov 2016
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Post by hardingmavman on Nov 9, 2016 20:45:26 GMT -5
Latest college football playoff rankings: 1. Alabama 2. Clemson 3. Michigan 4. Washington 5. Ohio State 6. Louisville 4:19 PM - 8 Nov 2016 the committee is showing more and more bias for the SEC again... im still trying to figure out how a team that lost to a 3-5 team and lost their starting qb only drops 4 spots do you really think if OSU or another B1G team did that they would still be in the top 10? lol
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 9, 2016 22:45:09 GMT -5
NOTHING matters other than being 1,2,3 or 4 after 13 games have been played.
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Post by frosty on Nov 10, 2016 5:44:13 GMT -5
NOTHING matters other than being 1,2,3 or 4 after 13 games have been played. Wrong! Being 1 after 15 games is ALL that matters. Let the chips fall where they may.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 10, 2016 14:43:52 GMT -5
NOTHING matters other than being 1,2,3 or 4 after 13 games have been played. Wrong! Being 1 after 15 games is ALL that matters. Let the chips fall where they may. Owning the top seed is the ideal position to be in entering the playoffs. Getting one of the top two seeds is a great advantage, playing before the home crowd. Question I have; Didn't they eliminate scoring differential from their criteria of deciding factors?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2016 23:51:43 GMT -5
Didn't help Bama 2 years ago. "Playing before the home crowd" will NEVER happen for a Big Ten team. Even if they get the #1 seed 10 years in row.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2016 23:54:16 GMT -5
NOTHING matters other than being 1,2,3 or 4 after 13 games have been played. Wrong! Being 1 after 15 games is ALL that matters. Let the chips fall where they may. The ONLY way to be 1 after 15 is to FIRST be 1 of the Top 4 after 13. If you're #5 after 13, it is absolutely impossible to end up 1 after 15.
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