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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 0:24:42 GMT -5
Big surprise
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 9:12:16 GMT -5
Amazing how the lower seeds keep winning, Along with the Columbus area and Toledo area all star teams. It'll be another running clock win for TCC, Again. What could be considered to be amazing is how the lower seeds are better and maybe more battle tested than some of the upper seeds with easier schedules. Some schools have coaches with good math skills and know how to get the points needed to be top 8 each season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 13, 2016 15:16:26 GMT -5
A great Senior class, with great leaders that does not want their season to end.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 16:09:30 GMT -5
A great Senior class, with great leaders that does not want their season to end. You speak like you know them.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 13, 2016 17:39:53 GMT -5
Been there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 21:36:14 GMT -5
My big surprise was the Sandusky team. Not Lexington's.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 13, 2016 23:41:16 GMT -5
Naturally.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 6:23:35 GMT -5
If you look at the preseason polls and predictions, Sandusky definitely exceeded expectations. I think they will have a similar season next year as well. I could see a regular season 8-2 and possibly playoff again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 8:01:03 GMT -5
For most of the season I heard about the explosiveness, playmakers and player comparisons when discussing Sandusky.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 14, 2016 12:22:36 GMT -5
There is something to be said for Senior leadership and football intellect. What impressed me most was what Gerhardt said in the MNJ about his defense, the biggest improvement on his team. They rarely blitz, but they've gotten so good at quickly reading their keys and reacting, that it looks like they are blitzing, when 6 or 7 are at the line of scrimmage before the play develops. Been there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 12:37:18 GMT -5
Having 2nd and 3rd year players can do that. Most of the 11 were starters last season. The defense may be keyed by 2-3 guys but the entire group understands their goal. Been there.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 14, 2016 12:43:37 GMT -5
To your point, more than 2-3 guys on defense must be very good at reading and reacting quickly to their defensive "keys". Yes, 2 and 3 years of experience is more than helpful, but more important is football intellect and believing in your "keys".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 12:49:00 GMT -5
After watching this team for 13 weeks and seeing the defense play 10 games last season it is a very good defensive squad that is keyed and lead by 2-3 exceptional players.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 14, 2016 14:15:06 GMT -5
True, but as Gerhardt said, THE key was how ALL 11 have learned to read and and react quickly to their defensive "keys". 2-3 exceptional players can not make the other 8 or 9 players read and react quickly to their "keys", as all great defenses do.
There is a key to great defenses. There are key exceptional players. Then there are great defenses in which all 11 players read and react to their "keys". In that sentence 3 completely different definitions of KEY.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 14:25:14 GMT -5
If you have been there you should know what is said to the media and what is said in the locker room and coach's office can be very different. This defense has more than 11 kids playing and contributing. Although I give credit to the team on both sides of the ball. Having 2-3 exceptional players make s a big difference. If you would disagree, remove them and see what happens. There is a difference between being able to play good defense and being a key player on a good defensive team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 14, 2016 15:42:06 GMT -5
I DID SAY "true" about the 2-3 exceptional players. A tremendous start to a great defense. It does not matter what is said anywhere, it is a well known FACT by outstanding defensive coaches, that THE key to a great defense is that ALL 11 players MUST read their "keys" correctly and react quickly to those "keys". 2-3 exceptional players can make a GREAT defense all that much better.
Let's take the converse of your supposition. What kind of a defense does a team have with 2-3 exceptional players and 8-9 average players that don't do a great job of reading their keys?
The great defense that I know well had zero "exceptional" players, but had 11 hard nosed, VERY intelligent, football smart players in which each of the 11 players followed their defensive "keys" without exception and reacted VERY quickly to those "keys". That defense gave up 4.6 PPG and didn't play the 4th quarter in most games.
Give us your definition of "keys", maybe we're in the realm of semantics again.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 14, 2016 22:57:24 GMT -5
The other thing that Lex does very well that not a lot of high school teams do is they can defend the pass very well. Which helps there front 7 to key on the run and get after the QB.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 8:16:25 GMT -5
As usual you focus in on a single word and try to rip it apart. I get it you read a news article and maybe have seen 2-3 games. Maybe if you attended more games and saw them play against the variety of offenses they played this season you would understand. A lot has changed since game 1. As I have stated earlier, this defense is very good and is keyed by 2-3 exceptional players on the field.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 8:20:32 GMT -5
BLF, that was part of my surprise. Sandusky never could get separation down the sideline. Heard good things about their QB and the passing game in comparison to Shelby's but only a couple of their passes were impressive to me. I'm figuring Lex played like it was Week 12 and Sandusky had some kids with an off-night.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 15, 2016 13:26:48 GMT -5
As usual you focus in on a single word and try to rip it apart. I get it you read a news article and maybe have seen 2-3 games. Maybe if you attended more games and saw them play against the variety of offenses they played this season you would understand. A lot has changed since game 1. As I have stated earlier, this defense is very good and is keyed by 2-3 exceptional players on the field. Agree with everything you say except for your usual insult of "try to rip it apart". I DARE YOU to show us where I did anything of the kind. That "single word" you insult about is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT word of all good defensive coordinators at the high school level and higher. You didn't know that??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 13:30:48 GMT -5
"Keys" was not my word. You referenced that from a coach's quote. Not mine. Focus in on that.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 15, 2016 13:54:04 GMT -5
"Keys" was not my word. You referenced that from a coach's quote. Not mine. Focus in on that. "Keys" should be a word you use to complement a defense, all 11 players, for following exceptionally well. If they don't a TEAM can not have a good defense. "Keys" is a word that the head coach, D-coordinator and defensive position coaches will talk about EVERY day at practice. The single most important mental aspect on the defensive side of the ball. You can be the most physically gifted player on defense, but if you don't religiously follow and react quickly to your reads(keys), you won't consistently help the defense. You'll be out of position, you'll be fooled by fakes, you'll be over running plays, you'll abandon your area of responsibility. That's what the aforementioned coaches focus on. AND I focused on the word "keys", because it reaffirms what good defensive players MUST focus on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 14:41:48 GMT -5
In closing, I will say you can have your opinion from reading articles and seeing a "small sample" of games, as you regularly put it. With respect, I have my opinions based on watching this coach's defense for multiple full schedules and knowing the players making the plays.
You can now fire off another meaningless rant about what I should be saying or words I should be using. I made a simple statement that the defense is keyed by 2-3 exceptional players and that is obvious if you see them play enough.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 15, 2016 15:44:04 GMT -5
My "opinion" on the importance of "keys" to the success of a defense is based on FAR FAR more than reading one article in the MNJ. Albeit that article was an interview with the Lex head coach. What he said is what EVERY head coach will tell you about why his team plays great defense. The importance of reading and reacting quickly to their "keys". I agree with them.
The 2-3 great players make the plays they do not only because they're gifted athletes, but first and foremost because they do a very good job of reading their "keys". Surely you don't think those great players are making plays by just using their own instincts and ignoring their "keys"
ALL ALONG I have agreed with you that Lex has 2-3 great defensive players, prove otherwise. If you think this discussion about "keys", not your insult "rant", is "meaningless"(another insult) then you've been exposed.
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