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Post by sportsjock on Dec 13, 2016 6:48:28 GMT -5
Which gets us back to what I have been advocating. The NCAA has to sit down and provide a category for mid-majors such as the Boise's and Western Michigan's and have a separate playoff to accomodate mid-majors. Many or most of these schools are struggling to satisfy minimum requirements to maintain FBS status and not slip into BCS. Let's get real, even an undefeated season with their schedule of opponents isn't going to get them in the conversation with the Power 5's. They already do that with the 98 different bowls that exist now if you're a decent mid major team chances are you'll get into one of those. So now they need a separate playoff system to decide who the world's tallest dwarf is in addition to that? Good one Galion!.......lol |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 13, 2016 17:46:34 GMT -5
True NC in 2014 for OSU? Yes, but also in 2002 under the system at the time, which I didn't like then either. I like the plus one better, but I still think it short changes a team like Boise, and only because they don't belong to the correct conference... it's discrimination for the power five and against the little guys who will never get a chance in the current system. All I'm asking for is a small window of a chance for the Boises in the system. You realize that even in an eight team bracket, WMU wouldn't even make it in this year. Even better, I like the idea of using the BCS system to set up the bracket... but of course that takes away the need for a committee... LOL!!! Which gets us back to what I have been advocating. The NCAA has to sit down and provide a category for mid-majors such as the Boise's and Western Michigan's and have a separate playoff to accomodate mid-majors. Many or most of these schools are struggling to satisfy minimum requirements to maintain FBS status and not slip into BCS. Let's get real, even an undefeated season with their schedule of opponents isn't going to get them in the conversation with the Power 5's. BS, all Boise State and Western Michigan has to do is get into a Power 5 Conference. AND then have a .500 record. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 4:57:31 GMT -5
Disagree, some schools will be left out. Accept it and move on. Not every school is equal and the committee knows this.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Dec 15, 2016 9:55:47 GMT -5
Which gets us back to what I have been advocating. The NCAA has to sit down and provide a category for mid-majors such as the Boise's and Western Michigan's and have a separate playoff to accomodate mid-majors. Many or most of these schools are struggling to satisfy minimum requirements to maintain FBS status and not slip into BCS. Let's get real, even an undefeated season with their schedule of opponents isn't going to get them in the conversation with the Power 5's. BS, all Boise State and Western Michigan has to do is get into a Power 5 Conference. AND then have a .500 record. Easier said than done me thinks... It would call for an increased revamp in sports budgets and if they failed to be successful in a power five, it could be the be all- end all to their sports program. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 12:19:51 GMT -5
Why not make all of the power 5 conferences, Division I. All mid majors D II. All former D II's, Now D III. Former D III's, Now D IV. So on and so forth. Then Boise or Western TTUN can win a national championship, and then some would be happy.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2016 12:56:09 GMT -5
That sounds like more wussification. There will be DivII's who want to be Div1's when they go undefeated, even if they can't make a 4 team playoff, because they can still get invited to a "major" Bowl Game and make a A LOT more money and get A LOT more press for recruiting, than playing for a DII National Title, in something other than prime time. And so on and so forth.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 15, 2016 15:59:43 GMT -5
Admittedly, I'm not that up on all the new changes of NCAA classifications that have come about the past couple of years, but I don't think D-1 and D-IA even exists anymore in football. Think that is old terminology.
Think D-1 and D-1A has been replaced with FBS and BCS. If I'm all screwed up on this, please correct me and explain it.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 15, 2016 17:04:55 GMT -5
Admittedly, I'm not that up on all the new changes of NCAA classifications that have come about the past couple of years, but I don't think D-1 and D-IA even exists anymore in football. Think that is old terminology. Think D-1 and D-1A has been replaced with FBS and BCS. If I'm all screwed up on this, please correct me and explain it. Yes, the NCAA football divisions are now: D1 FBS (formerly D1-A) D1 FCS (formerly D1-AA) D2 D3 markmay's suggestion would make it: D1 (Power 5 level schools) D2 (Group of 5 level schools) D3 (FCS) D4 (D2) D5 (D3) |
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Post by Buckeye2b on Dec 17, 2016 13:18:14 GMT -5
Actually, it's kind of funny. It's what the OHSAA has done with HS football... or the MHSAA. Breaking teams into more equal levels and adding more divisions.
It's the same thing here in Michigan with the MHSAA.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 17, 2016 13:31:51 GMT -5
Admittedly, I'm not that up on all the new changes of NCAA classifications that have come about the past couple of years, but I don't think D-1 and D-IA even exists anymore in football. Think that is old terminology. Think D-1 and D-1A has been replaced with FBS and BCS. If I'm all screwed up on this, please correct me and explain it. Yes, the NCAA football divisions are now: D1 FBS (formerly D1-A) D1 FCS (formerly D1-AA) D2 D3 markmay's suggestion would make it: D1 (Power 5 level schools) D2 (Group of 5 level schools) D3 (FCS) D4 (D2) D5 (D3) Thanks for the education. Didn't think I would agree with Mark May on anything, but his idea makes sense to me. |
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Post by galion on Dec 17, 2016 14:29:00 GMT -5
Sounds nice in theory but they need all of those group of 5 teams to fill out the bowl game rosters every year so it can't happen without either cancelling some of the bowls or using them as your sites.
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