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Post by 1percenter on Dec 22, 2016 9:48:51 GMT -5
Here are Drew Pasteur's rankings for Bay Division teams in 2016. Who's going to improve, who's going to stay about the same and who's going to be a little worse?
125.1. #86 in the State, 12-2 Edison 124.9, #89 in the State, 11-2 Shelby 120.9, #122 in the State, 10-2 Port Clinton 106.2, #280 in the State, 5-5 Oak Harbor 104.9, #300 in the State, 3-7 Huron 92.4, #466 in the State, 2-8 Vermilion
Shelby was Pasteur's 7th most improved team in the State of Ohio last year with a +21.8. Are any of these teams capable of making a jump like that in 2017?
3 teams from this division made the playoffs in 2016, how many will make it in 2017?
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Post by footballfan on Dec 29, 2016 15:31:00 GMT -5
All DIV schools except Edison DV. I would think the winner of this division will be Shelby or Edison. IMO
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Post by gibby23 on Dec 29, 2016 15:50:03 GMT -5
I think Shelby would be considered the favorite with Edison second.
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Post by dump on Feb 15, 2017 10:32:37 GMT -5
Huron takes the league. Will be tough to replace Jared Hohler's 1500 passing yards, but I have faith in the Tigers. I expect a 7-3 or 8-2 record. Go tigers
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 15, 2017 16:31:36 GMT -5
I would think Shelby should go at least 9-1, since last year they were 9-1 in the NOL, more difficult than this Division. They return a better QB than Hohler. He currently has scholarship offers from schools in every Power 5 Conference. Also returning is the #1 RB in the NOL last year. 1st team NOL and 1st team All Northwest District. Over 2000 yards rushing and 23 TDs. Also returning is 2 of Shelby QB's favorite targets. JMO
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 15, 2017 17:06:17 GMT -5
Shelby is easily the favorite in this division and the Lake too, for that matter.
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Post by footballfan on Feb 15, 2017 19:03:14 GMT -5
Why would you say the Lake division too? LOL After next year Shelby will be glade there in the Bay division where they belong! I would have to say Shelby would lose to Sandusky and maybe Bellevue (which we play each other so we will see) if they were in the Lake division (with all division III schools like Bellevue). Sandusky returns a lot of key players from last year and Bellevue returns all but 3 on "D" side of the ball and all of the skills position except the QB on offense! It will be interesting what we do at QB for Bellevue next year. Foos is working with QB's to help bring one up to speed that is very athletic but has not QB sense 8th grade and the JV QB from 2016 that has a great arm. Might see a two QB offense again!?!? It will be interesting to say the least for Bellevue in 2017 with the schedule they have!
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Post by SportsNut on Feb 16, 2017 8:45:38 GMT -5
Why would you say the Lake division too? LOL After next year Shelby will be glade there in the Bay division where they belong! I would have to say Shelby would lose to Sandusky and maybe Bellevue (which we play each other so we will see) if they were in the Lake division (with all division III schools like Bellevue). Sandusky returns a lot of key players from last year and Bellevue returns all but 3 on "D" side of the ball and all of the skills position except the QB on offense! It will be interesting what we do at QB for Bellevue next year. Foos is working with QB's to help bring one up to speed that is very athletic but has not QB sense 8th grade and the JV QB from 2016 that has a great arm. Might see a two QB offense again!?!? It will be interesting to say the least for Bellevue in 2017 with the schedule they have! Even though they return all but 3 on "D" side of the ball, didn't that unit give up 49pts to Shelby and couldn't stop the run? I guess we will assume Nasonti will make changes to their defensive scheme next year and we can assume that will make a difference. I believe Bellevue also loses 3 starting OL (C and 2 G??). Foos is an absolute huge loss, he was a stud. I am surprised they are not considering moving McPeak or Ray to QB since Bellevue typically is a run heavy team...
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 16, 2017 18:29:28 GMT -5
Shelby will be the favorite in the SBC - any division. They are loaded, led by a Power 5 QB and a potential DI RB. Shorty Brooks is undersized but he can play. When was the last time a team had a legit DI QB and potential DI RB in the same back field? Not sure any SBC teams have one of these caliber of players, let alone two.
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Post by SportsNut on Feb 16, 2017 19:32:51 GMT -5
The key to Shelby, imo, will be how the new defensive line performs. Graduated 2 All-Ohio first teamers (both playing D2 next year), a 300 lb DT who I heard is gonna be playing football at Ohio Northern and a DE who was a top 3 kid as far as strength goes...and only 1 went both ways. Offense won't be an issue...
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Post by dump on Feb 17, 2017 8:45:44 GMT -5
I have a hard time believing Shelby will be as good as you say. I know their QB is very good but I doubt they could beat Sandusky. I think Sandusky's QB is a better high school player. Also think the Tigers will take care of Shelby. Pickett returns for the Tigers, and should be an All-Ohio offensive lineman. The Tigers will also be helped out by a talented incoming sophomore class. We also received a transfer student from Toledo Whitmer, a sophomore, named John Allen. Kid is 6'4 and solid, and has an absolute cannon for an arm. Also can run. he should be the starting quarterback. Should be a much better year than last.
GO tigers
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Mar 14, 2017 14:41:25 GMT -5
2017 schedules:
Edison 08/25 H Oberlin Firelands 09/01 H Norwalk 09/08 A Collins Western Reserve 09/15 A Upper Sandusky 09/22 H Willard 09/29 A Port Clinton 10/06 H Shelby 10/13 A Oak Harbor 10/20 A Vermilion 10/27 H Huron
Huron 08/25 A Sandusky Perkins 09/01 H Sandusky 09/08 H Streetsboro 09/15 H Willard 09/22 A Castalia Margaretta 09/29 H Shelby 10/06 H Oak Harbor 10/13 A Vermilion 10/20 H Port Clinton 10/27 A Milan Edison
Oak Harbor 08/25 A Fostoria 09/01 H Genoa Area 09/08 A Elmore Woodmore 09/16 A Tiffin Calvert 09/22 OPEN - anyone know if they have filled this? 09/29 H Vermilion 10/06 A Huron 10/13 H Milan Edison 10/20 H Shelby 10/27 A Port Clinton
Port Clinton 08/25 H Sandusky 09/01 H Rossford 09/08 A Norwalk 09/15 H Fremont St. Joseph Central Catholic 09/22 A Clyde 09/29 H Milan Edison 10/06 A Vermilion 10/13 A Shelby 10/20 A Huron 10/27 H Oak Harbor
Shelby 08/24 A Mansfield Madison Comprehensive 09/01 H Lexington 09/08 A Willard 09/15 H Bellevue 09/22 H Norwalk 09/29 A Huron 10/06 A Milan Edison 10/13 H Port Clinton 10/20 A Oak Harbor 10/27 H Vermilion
Vermilion 08/25 H Oberlin 09/01 A Sheffield Brookside 09/08 A Oberlin Firelands 09/15 A Sandusky Perkins 09/22 H Tiffin Columbian 09/29 A Oak Harbor 10/06 H Port Clinton 10/13 H Huron 10/20 H Milan Edison 10/27 A Shelby
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Post by dump on Mar 15, 2017 8:08:44 GMT -5
Huron 08/25 A Sandusky Perkins 09/01 H Sandusky 09/08 H Streetsboro 09/15 H Willard 09/22 A Castalia Margaretta 09/29 H Shelby 10/06 H Oak Harbor 10/13 A Vermilion 10/20 H Port Clinton 10/27 A Milan Edison
Just gonna dissect this game by game. Perkins- gonna be a tough game. This one is all about who is better conditioned and worked harder over the summer. I like the Tigers. Dusk- Probably gonna be the only loss for Huron. Sandusky should be special. Streetsboro- Huron won't wee wee this one off like last year. Home game, should be a W. Willard- Willard is butt. Easy W. Marg- Also cheeks, Easy W. Shelby- tough game. but it's at home. Tigers neutralize the QB. too much team speed. Tigers W. oak harbor- OH will be solid, but Tigers win. Vermilion- Cheeks. Easy W. PC- PC loses more than anyone in the league. Tigers win. Edison- Edison will be very tough. I look for Ryan to be a huge key in the rush defense. Tigers win.
Tigers- 9-1. SBC Champs. You heard it here first. Look for Ryan to be the first lineman to ever win POY.
GO Tigers
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Post by piratefan on Mar 15, 2017 11:24:23 GMT -5
Rumor has it that Huron will have to forfeit the first couple games because the team is lost out in the woods looking for those missing BB players.
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Post by pickett79 on Mar 15, 2017 11:29:40 GMT -5
Dump, I like your confidence in the tigers but I believe they are still a year away. The tigers have the athletes but no one who can play the most important position on the football field (QB). Although they have Ryan, who is the best lineman in SBC (all divisions), they will need a lot more firepower. I believe the Tigers will finish 6-4, which isn't bad considering thats doubling their win total from the previous year. Huge blow from the tigers is the loss of one of their special teams coaches Austin Gardner. Austin took a full time job with the Perkins Fire Department, he will be coaching the Pirates Special Teams and specializes in the punting game. Don't let the drugs win Go tigers
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Post by SportsNut on Mar 15, 2017 12:05:49 GMT -5
Huron 08/25 A Sandusky Perkins 09/01 H Sandusky 09/08 H Streetsboro 09/15 H Willard 09/22 A Castalia Margaretta 09/29 H Shelby 10/06 H Oak Harbor 10/13 A Vermilion 10/20 H Port Clinton 10/27 A Milan Edison Just gonna dissect this game by game. Perkins- gonna be a tough game. This one is all about who is better conditioned and worked harder over the summer. I like the Tigers. Dusk- Probably gonna be the only loss for Huron. Sandusky should be special. Streetsboro- Huron won't wee wee this one off like last year. Home game, should be a W. Willard- Willard is butt. Easy W. Marg- Also cheeks, Easy W. Shelby- tough game. but it's at home. Tigers neutralize the QB. too much team speed. Tigers W. oak harbor- OH will be solid, but Tigers win. Vermilion- Cheeks. Easy W. PC- PC loses more than anyone in the league. Tigers win. Edison- Edison will be very tough. I look for Ryan to be a huge key in the rush defense. Tigers win. Tigers- 9-1. SBC Champs. You heard it here first. Look for Ryan to be the first lineman to ever win POY. GO Tigers I think I speak for most on these forums...please pass us whatever it is you are smoking...because it must be pretty good for you to think that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I don't see them beating both Shelby and Edison. Edison crushed them last year and they still return their stud RB. Shelby beat Bellevue and handled Perkins in their scrimmage last year yet Bellevue and Perkins both hammered Huron. This division crown gets settled on 10/6 when Shelby travels to Edison.
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Post by dump on Mar 15, 2017 12:32:20 GMT -5
Pirate- As I stated on the basketball thread about a month ago, the players have returned. They will be ready to go, barring any unforeseen circumstances.
Picket79- Any possibility Ryan can play quarterback? Any way Jared Hohler can come back another year? People forget he threw for 1500 yards.
Sportsnut- I'm smoking kush. I'm pretty sure its readily accessible in almost every community in the area, go try some. Huron wins the league. You guys doubted me when I said the basketball Tigers would win and look what happened.
GO Tigers
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 15, 2017 15:27:11 GMT -5
NOT "SBC Champs". Just NEW SBC, bay division champ. Not nearly as good as old SBC Champion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 16:35:41 GMT -5
I see 5-5, or 6-4 at best, for Huron. Perkins L Sandusky L Streetsboro L or W Willard W Margaretta W Shelby L Oak Harbor W Vermilion W Port Clinton L or W Edison L
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Post by dolittle on Mar 16, 2017 7:18:39 GMT -5
Shelby/Edison
Everyone else. PC will finish 3-2
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Post by smitty1974 on Mar 21, 2017 20:35:55 GMT -5
dump you big moron,huron has to go through the gaunlet of shelby and then the last 2 games of the season against port clinton and edison,huron proved they couldnt handle the triple option of edison. thats 3 losses there. and if edison can get a little more passing about 8-12 attempts insted of 5-6 and complete about 6-10 for decent yardage,that will make edison a little more dangerous.
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Post by smitty1974 on Mar 21, 2017 21:34:08 GMT -5
is there any charger fans out there. i am confused as far as game 4 sept 2017.charger football website has us going to strobel field to face smcc and on upper sandusky website,it has us taking the long trip to upper sandusky and smcc website dont have their football schedule up for 2017,so i dont know whos right.
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Post by quasimodo on Mar 22, 2017 8:15:39 GMT -5
It is Upper Sandusky
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Post by dump on Mar 22, 2017 12:10:00 GMT -5
I refuse to argue with any of you dumpsters. Tigers take the league, Tigers take the state.
Ryan.
GO Tigers
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Post by piratefan on Mar 22, 2017 13:41:12 GMT -5
I refuse to argue with any of you dumpsters. Tigers take the league, Tigers take the state. Ryan. GO Tigers .....and you "take the cake"...................for stupidity.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 16:22:42 GMT -5
I've seen a '17 football schedule somewhere, but can't remember where, I was a bit surprised to see Edison plays at Upper Sandusky.
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Post by smitty1974 on Mar 22, 2017 18:42:09 GMT -5
well i send a text tom jeffery,athletic director at edison,and he told me that the coach forgot to change it on the football website and we are going to upper sandusky september 15,2017,we had a contract with smcc but smcc said they did not want to play edison anymore,so the trip to upper sandusky.i think they are d-5 like edison,so it would be more computer points than smcc being d-7.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 18:48:46 GMT -5
well i send a text tom jeffery,athletic director at edison,and he told me that the coach forgot to change it on the football website and we are going to upper sandusky september 15,2017,we had a contract with smcc but smcc said they did not want to play edison anymore,so the trip to upper sandusky.i think they are d-5 like edison,so it would be more computer points than smcc being d-7. Not necessarily. A team still needs to win games to gain valuable points, and Upper isn't any good.
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Post by galion on Mar 22, 2017 20:55:44 GMT -5
They aren't great but they'll win at least 6 games a year because of the conference they're in.
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Post by A no.1 on Mar 22, 2017 21:30:06 GMT -5
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