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Post by 1percenter on Jan 16, 2017 9:35:57 GMT -5
8/31 @ Indiana - Thursday game
9/9 Oklahoma
9/16 Army
9/23 UNLV
9/30 @ Rutgers
10/7 Maryland
10/14 @ Nebraska
10/28 Penn State
11/4 @ Iowa
11/11 Michigan State
11/18 Illinois
11/25 @ Michigan
I see 6 teams that could beat OSU if OSU doesn't play a good enough game. OU, Nebraska, PSU, Iowa, MSU, Mich.
I'm going with 10-2, losses to Oklahoma and Penn State.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 16, 2017 10:23:03 GMT -5
This years group of talented youngsters that comprised the youngest team in college football, exceeded expectations by most everyone.
The youth movement returns, with a years of experience under their belt and fortified with the top recruiting class in the nation coming in.
Add to that, a dramatic coaching upgrade on the offensive side of the ball and one word.....Urban Meyer.
All these elements and factors add up to another optimistic assessment for Ohio State football in 2017.
I think 10-2 would be the low side of things. No reason to believe we couldn't equal last years record of 11-1 or even 12-0
I've been reading early mutterings from college football experts, that the Buckeyes may be ranked #1, #2 or #3 preseason.
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Post by tommygunn on Jan 16, 2017 11:02:02 GMT -5
I see 3 losses this next season.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jan 16, 2017 11:28:36 GMT -5
So far Urban Meyer has won at 12 of the B1G's 14 stadiums, and this year he will have a chance to add the remaining 2: Nebraska's Memorial Stadium and Iowa's Kinnick Stadium. 2017 will be OSU's first trip to Nebraska since 2011 and first trip to Iowa since 2010.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 12:43:50 GMT -5
8/31 @ Indiana - Thursday game 9/9 Oklahoma 9/16 Army 9/23 UNLV 9/30 @ Rutgers 10/7 Maryland 10/14 @ Nebraska 10/28 Penn State 11/4 @ Iowa 11/11 Michigan State 11/18 Illinois 11/25 @ Michigan I see 6 teams that could beat OSU if OSU doesn't play a good enough game. OU, Nebraska, PSU, Iowa, MSU, Mich. I'm going with 10-2, losses to Oklahoma and Penn State. They aren't losing to either of those teams. Both of those will be night games in Columbus, which equals wins |
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 16, 2017 14:14:18 GMT -5
I see 3 losses this next season. Urban has only experienced 6 losses in 5 years. Odds don't favor your prediction. |
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Post by Rambo McClain on Jan 16, 2017 14:52:51 GMT -5
JT Barrett has masterminded 4 of those 6 losses all by himself and he's back in 2017.
JT Barrett keeps getting worse and worse and worse
87.1 - Adjusted QBR 2014 his freshman year
76.9 - Adjusted QBR 2015 his sophomore year
68.0 - Adjusted QBR 2016 his junior year
??.? - Adjusted QBR 2017 his senior year
He's been woeful in his last 3 games
38.1 - Adjusted QBR vs Michigan State
69.4 - Adjusted QBR vs Michigan
39.9 - Adjusted QBR vs Clemson
He stunk vs Penn State 58.1 Adjusted QBR
JT Barrett in Postseason games
62.8 - Adjusted QBR vs Notre Dame in the 2015 Fiesta Bowl
39.9 - Adjusted QBR vs Clemson in the 2016 Fiesta Bowl
Compare that to Deshaun Watson
sophomore in the postseason
84.6 - Adjusted QBR vs UNC in the 2015 ACC Championship Game
85.5 - Adjusted QBR vs Oklahoma in the 2015 Orange Bowl
93.2 - Adjusted QBR vs Alabama in the 2015 NC Game
junior in the postseason
93.4 - Adjusted QBR vs Virginia Tech in the 2016 ACC Championship Game
91.8 - Adjusted QBR vs Ohio State in the 2016 Fiesta Bowl
92.4 - Adjusted QBR vs Alabama in the 2016 National Championship Game
Expect 2 to 4 losses in 2017 with JT "I can't throw an accurate pass over 3 yards" Barrett at QB. He keeps getting worse so maybe a 55.3 Adjusted QBR this year
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Post by 4 on Jan 16, 2017 16:24:10 GMT -5
I expect 0 or 1 loss. To much talent for anymore then 2, new coaching staff has excellent backgrounds. Sure same here. If someone isn't performing it will be next man up. Jt can get better in offseason and he might do very well with new staff. No reason to think bad of him. But I know urban won't watch him be inaccurate all year again. Next year we could really do something. Deep on defense and lots of options on offense. I don't buy in to the "young" saying. Cause this year with 1 loss till playoff. Proved that wrong. Go bucks.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 16, 2017 19:05:02 GMT -5
JT Barrett has masterminded 4 of those 6 losses all by himself and he's back in 2017. JT Barrett keeps getting worse and worse and worse 87.1 - Adjusted QBR 2014 his freshman year 76.9 - Adjusted QBR 2015 his sophomore year 68.0 - Adjusted QBR 2016 his junior year ??.? - Adjusted QBR 2017 his senior year He's been woeful in his last 3 games 38.1 - Adjusted QBR vs Michigan State 69.4 - Adjusted QBR vs Michigan 39.9 - Adjusted QBR vs Clemson He stunk vs Penn State 58.1 Adjusted QBR JT Barrett in Postseason games 62.8 - Adjusted QBR vs Notre Dame in the 2015 Fiesta Bowl 39.9 - Adjusted QBR vs Clemson in the 2016 Fiesta Bowl Compare that to Deshaun Watson sophomore in the postseason 84.6 - Adjusted QBR vs UNC in the 2015 ACC Championship Game 85.5 - Adjusted QBR vs Oklahoma in the 2015 Orange Bowl 93.2 - Adjusted QBR vs Alabama in the 2015 NC Game junior in the postseason 93.4 - Adjusted QBR vs Virginia Tech in the 2016 ACC Championship Game 91.8 - Adjusted QBR vs Ohio State in the 2016 Fiesta Bowl 92.4 - Adjusted QBR vs Alabama in the 2016 National Championship Game Expect 2 to 4 losses in 2017 with JT "I can't throw an accurate pass over 3 yards" Barrett at QB. He keeps getting worse so maybe a 55.3 Adjusted QBR this year A very oversimplified assessment. No analysis of play calling. No analysis of WR route running, getting separation and dropping passes. No analysis of failures of O-line to open holes for run game which diminishes the concept of Urban's offense, where a good run game sets up play action passing game. No analysis of pass blocking. JT Barrett this year. 3rd Team All-America, Silver Football winner, and 1st Team All-Big Ten QB. THUS, it follows that all other Big Ten QBs next year are MUCH MORE likely to be the "mastermind of a loss" for their teams. Also, next year's schedule is more favorable than the past couple of years. |
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 16, 2017 19:21:39 GMT -5
J.T. Barrett
Two-time All-Big Ten selection and two-time Big Ten Quarterback of the Year ... 26-3 career record as a starter ... averaging 249.2 yards of total offense per game and accounting for a school-record 100 touchdowns (69 passing, 31 rushing) ... also the school record holder with his 69 TD passes ... owns school record for most TD passes in a game (6, twice, a record he shares with Kenny Guiton) and most TDs responsible for in a game with seven vs. Bowling Green this year.
2016 Season (Junior): Chicago Tribune Silver Football Award winner ... First Team All-Big Ten and Griese-Brees Big Ten Quarterback of the Year ... Maxwell Award semi-finalist for 'National Player of the Year'. directed the Buckeyes to an 11-1 record and a spot in the 2016 College Football Playoff, including three wins over teams in a New Year’s Six bowl (Michigan, Wisconsin, Oklahoma) ... led the Buckeyes with 3,275 yards of total offense (2,428 pass, 847 rush), completing 214 of his 346 passes and only five interceptions ... led the Big Ten in points responsible for (33 TDs, 198 points, 16.5 ppg) and was second with 24 TD passes during the regular season ... also finished the regular season ranked third in total offense (272.9 ypg) and completion percentage (.620) and fourth in passer rating (140.8) while becoming Ohio State’s all-time leader in TD passes (69) and TDs responsible for (100) in the process ... rushed for ... threw for a career-high 349 yards and tied his school record with six TD passes in the 77-10 season-opening win over Bowling Green; set an Ohio State record with seven TDs accounted for (6 passing, 1 rushing) and helped Ohio State set a school record with 776 yards of total offense against the Falcons ... named Big Ten offensive player of the week for his efforts vs. BGSU ... tossed four TD passes, all to Noah Brown, in the win at No. 14 Oklahoma ... added another four TD passes on 21-of-29 passing for 238 yards and rushed for 46 yards in just over three quarters of play vs. Rutgers ... rushed for 137 yards and a score in the win over Indiana ... totaled 318 yards of offense (92 rush, 226 pass) in the win at No. 8 Wisconsin, rushing for two TDs and passing for another to earn Maxwell and Big Ten co-offensive POW honors ... threw for 245 yards and a TD and added 26 on the ground at Penn State ... tossed four more TD passes while throwing for 290 yards in the win over No. 10 Nebraska ... accounted for 4 more TDs (2 rushing, 2 passing) while totaling 300 yards of total offense in the win at Maryland ... rushed for 105 yards in the win at Michigan State and 30 times for 125 yards in the double-overtime win over No. 3 Michigan; also threw for 124 yards against the Wolverines.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 17, 2017 8:29:08 GMT -5
I'm going to reserve judgement on JT until after I see 3-4 games with Wilson as the OC.
Coaching matters and they make players look much better if the system is sound. The two years where he dropped in efficiency could be all about coaching. The fact that our defense played so much better with a few changes in the staff proved it.
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Post by cbus on Jan 17, 2017 15:42:05 GMT -5
I say 12-0. OSU has a lot of talent and the tough games are at home.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 17, 2017 22:35:38 GMT -5
I'm going to reserve judgement on JT until after I see 3-4 games with Wilson as the OC. Coaching matters and they make players look much better if the system is sound. The two years where he dropped in efficiency could be all about coaching. The fact that our defense played so much better with a few changes in the staff proved it. NO WAY, "the system" will be any different. One the best coaches in the country isn't going to allow his offense to be scrapped, by a head coach with a losing record. The only change that you will see is different play calling of the same plays, possibly a few new spread plays. |
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Post by 4 on Jan 18, 2017 4:05:42 GMT -5
Another thing that can happen is Jt can IMPROVE
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 18, 2017 6:57:20 GMT -5
Play calling and how they use everyone is what I meant I guess.
I'm hoping our OL is better too on the edges. A year under their belts should make a difference.
We're going to miss Samuel, but I feel like our WR's will be better.
Need a couple guys like Antonio Williams and McCall to step in and provide a spark in the backfield to give us more than just Weber.
Even though we lost some guys early to the NFL, we have a ton coming back and possibly the best ever recruiting class in OSU's history on paper.
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Post by tommygunn on Jan 18, 2017 7:50:34 GMT -5
JT has to improve. He had a bad season in the air. He had one good game vs Oklahoma and that was mainly Brown going and getting it done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 8:14:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if they would scrap the H-Back getting so many touches. Let the running back and quarterback do the running and let the receivers do the catching with intermediate and long routes
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 18, 2017 8:18:02 GMT -5
JT has to improve. He had a bad season in the air. He had one good game vs Oklahoma and that was mainly Brown going and getting it done. Evidently experts in the know, don't agree with your assesment. Big ten player of the year, QB of the year, 3rd team All-American doesn't translate into what one would consider a 'bad season'. It's easy to understand the fall-off passing wise, with the obvious problems with the OL and an inexperienced fleet of receivers. Far too many games, J.T. had to literally take the game into his own hands late in the game and pull out win with his feet and clutch passing. Everyone fully expects to see a dramatic improvement in most every aspect of this years offense, J.T.'s numbers will improve as a result. |
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 18, 2017 9:37:24 GMT -5
Rumors out there that Joey Burrow may be transferring.
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Post by 4 on Jan 18, 2017 10:10:11 GMT -5
Yep was gonna post that too^^ knows he won't play with Haskins, martell and Emory jones on deck.
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Post by baldref on Jan 18, 2017 10:46:59 GMT -5
Hate to see that happen....but, after redshirting a year and basically filling in, he has a lot of eligibility left.....Nebraska sure seems like a possibility with his dad and two brothers playing there.....
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 18, 2017 13:07:26 GMT -5
Wish the young man the very best at his new school of choice, if in fact he transfers.
Nothing but positive remarks from his team-mates and coaches, all said he was impressive on the practice field.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 15:38:38 GMT -5
If he transfers he will have 2 years of eligibility remaining. Wonder if he heads back home to Athens
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Post by 4 on Jan 18, 2017 16:14:17 GMT -5
He just tweeted and said he will not be transferring
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 18, 2017 18:10:48 GMT -5
If he stays he is currently the leader in being the starting QB when he's a red shirt Junior.
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Post by 4 on Jan 18, 2017 23:35:54 GMT -5
That'll change. Haskins will overtake that. And martell is better out of highschool as long he translates it to college.
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Post by 4 on Jan 19, 2017 11:11:44 GMT -5
Backup qb Stephen collier announced he's hanging up the cleats. Another number off the roster osu could use for scholarships.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 19, 2017 13:12:14 GMT -5
Collier is the odd man out in the crowded QB scenario.
It's too early to say for sure, but I think the depth chart through spring training will be:
1. J.T. Barrett
2. Joe Burrow
3. Dwayne Haskins
4. Tate Martell
It will be interesting how quickly if at all, Martell will move up the pecking order.
Finally, what's the status of Justin Cook?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 19, 2017 22:16:46 GMT -5
Play calling and how they use everyone is what I meant I guess. I'm hoping our OL is better too on the edges. A year under their belts should make a difference. We're going to miss Samuel, but I feel like our WR's will be better. Need a couple guys like Antonio Williams and McCall to step in and provide a spark in the backfield to give us more than just Weber. Even though we lost some guys early to the NFL, we have a ton coming back and possibly the best ever recruiting class in OSU's history on paper. McCall will be the new Curtis Samuel. Slot Back, WR, occasional RB. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 19, 2017 22:30:16 GMT -5
Collier is the odd man out in the crowded QB scenario. It's too early to say for sure, but I think the depth chart through spring training will be: 1. J.T. Barrett 2. Joe Burrow 3. Dwayne Haskins 4. Tate Martell It will be interesting how quickly if at all, Martell will move up the pecking order. Finally, what's the status of Justin Cook? The pecking order - JT 1 year, Burrow 2 years, Haskins 1 year, Martell 1 year, Emory Jones 1 year. JT won't get drafted, Burrow and Haskins could get drafted, Martell won't get drafted, Jones will play WR in the NFL. |
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