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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 11, 2017 15:23:22 GMT -5
I think the cat is pretty much out of the bag that Tucker is currently not coaching the Polar Bears. It sounds like some people got upset about the way he was coaching and took it to administration.
When did America become so soft?
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 11, 2017 16:06:39 GMT -5
Little softy Susie cried because she got yelled at and mommy and daddy goes whinning at the BOE! boohoo Margaretta wants a basketball program to match its soft football program. Schedule cream puffs so we can bang our chests. Your soft Margaretta! Your soft
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Post by wfa on Feb 11, 2017 19:19:27 GMT -5
The game has passed him by. Times have changed. They have underachieved. Amazing how they almost beat Clyde without him on the bench. The manner in which he speaks to young women is just downgrading. Perkins needs to get on board. Coach Neil does the same stuff and needs to go. Only 15 girls out and several already saying no way they are playing next year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 22:15:42 GMT -5
The game has passed him by. Times have changed. They have underachieved. Amazing how they almost beat Clyde without him on the bench. The manner in which he speaks to young women is just downgrading. Perkins needs to get on board. Coach Neil does the same stuff and needs to go. Only 15 girls out and several already saying no way they are playing next year. People like this poster are the problem with high school sports
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Post by usramfan on Feb 11, 2017 22:39:53 GMT -5
The game has passed him by. Times have changed. They have underachieved. Amazing how they almost beat Clyde without him on the bench. The manner in which he speaks to young women is just downgrading. Perkins needs to get on board. Coach Neil does the same stuff and needs to go. Only 15 girls out and several already saying no way they are playing next year. Kids always make that threat and many times don't follow through with it.
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Post by greenman on Feb 11, 2017 23:07:50 GMT -5
The game has passed him by. Times have changed. They have underachieved. Amazing how they almost beat Clyde without him on the bench. The manner in which he speaks to young women is just downgrading. Perkins needs to get on board. Coach Neil does the same stuff and needs to go. Only 15 girls out and several already saying no way they are playing next year. People like this poster are the problem with high school sports Agree 110%. I got a front-row seat for the end of the Zac Reer debacle at Monroeville. Mommy and Daddy didn't think Jr. was getting enough playing time, or was getting his delicate ears violated some vile curse words (ones that 16-year old boys would never use themselves), so they invited their Board member pal(s) over to a cookout, and the guy is left dangling in the wind. Nevermind that during his near-decade tenure, the Eagles would enjoy the best results they'd had since the 80s, that Reer was a true-blue Monroeville guy. Every player that has played under Reer is gone, and Eagle BBb has hit the skids after squandering two years of the life of a coach with an impressive local coaching pedigree and doubling down on underachieving this year. Many in Monkeyville have yet to even pronounce the poor guy's name without help; trying to learn might just be a waste of time, too. All to satisfy a few well-placed, meddlesome know-nothing parents and the fragile porcelain figurines they call their "sons," boys that are long gone anyway. As for Ray Neill and Perkins: I'm even more familiar with them both than I am with the M'ville situation, being Perkins alumnus and having played summer ball under Ray. Lesson #1 for wfa: Ray Neill has put together more successful teams, cultivated more student-athletes to successful people on and off the field/court, and built more complete programs from the ground up in his 4 decades of coaching (and that's just baseball) than some school districts and communities could hope for in a century. Champions fight for the opportunity to play for him and people like him - no creampuffs, snowflakes, or Faberge eggs need apply. Lesson #2 for wfa: Having several opportunities to observe and work with the current PHS student population, it pains me to tell you that, since my matriculation, the best things about the Perkins student body culture have taken a nosedive. Self-discipline, respect for authority, responsibility, and accountability - all gone. I'm not saying we were all shining examples of humanity, but as a collective, we were actually pretty decent in those respects. Not today - entitlement attitudes and rampant disrespect shown there embarrasses me as alumnus. I think I'll give Coach Neill the benefit of the doubt on this one. As for athletes who sit out because coach is a big meany stupidhead: you're hurting yourself more than you're hurting the program you're boycotting. Even mediocre coaches will find someone to fill in just fine without you. What happens when you decline to go out for a team in protest, and the team ends the season with a great record? Winning conference? Meanwhile, you wasted an athletic season of your youth sitting on your ***, snapchatting, and pouting, all while being aided and abetted by Mommy and Daddy. And what the hell is "downgrading?" Do you mean he's demoting them to JV?
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Post by greenman on Feb 11, 2017 23:08:51 GMT -5
The game has passed him by. Times have changed. They have underachieved. Amazing how they almost beat Clyde without him on the bench. The manner in which he speaks to young women is just downgrading. Perkins needs to get on board. Coach Neil does the same stuff and needs to go. Only 15 girls out and several already saying no way they are playing next year. Kids always make that threat and many times don't follow through with it. Funny how it's always the kids and parents that coach wishes would follow through. Don't let the gym doors hit you on the arse, snowflakes!
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 11, 2017 23:23:30 GMT -5
People like this poster are the problem with high school sports Agree 110%. I got a front-row seat for the end of the Zac Reer debacle at Monroeville. Mommy and Daddy didn't think Jr. was getting enough playing time, or was getting his delicate ears violated some vile curse words (ones that 16-year old boys would never use themselves), so they invited their Board member pal(s) over to a cookout, and the guy is left dangling in the wind. Nevermind that during his near-decade tenure, the Eagles would enjoy the best results they'd had since the 80s, that Reer was a true-blue Monroeville guy. Every player that has played under Reer is gone, and Eagle BBb has hit the skids after squandering two years of the life of a coach with an impressive local coaching pedigree and doubling down on underachieving this year. Many in Monkeyville have yet to even pronounce the poor guy's name without help; trying to learn might just be a waste of time, too. All to satisfy a few well-placed, meddlesome know-nothing parents and the fragile porcelain figurines they call their "sons," boys that are long gone anyway. As for Ray Neill and Perkins: I'm even more familiar with them both than I am with the M'ville situation, being Perkins alumnus and having played summer ball under Ray. Lesson #1 for wfa: Ray Neill has put together more successful teams, cultivated more student-athletes to successful people on and off the field/court, and built more complete programs from the ground up in his 4 decades of coaching (and that's just baseball) than some school districts and communities could hope for in a century. Champions fight for the opportunity to play for him and people like him - no creampuffs, snowflakes, or Faberge eggs need apply. Lesson #2 for wfa: Having several opportunities to observe and work with the current PHS student population, it pains me to tell you that, since my matriculation, the best things about the Perkins student body culture have taken a nosedive. Self-discipline, respect for authority, responsibility, and accountability - all gone. I'm not saying we were all shining examples of humanity, but as a collective, we were actually pretty decent in those respects. Not today - entitlement attitudes and rampant disrespect shown there embarrasses me as alumnus. I think I'll give Coach Neill the benefit of the doubt on this one. As for athletes who sit out because coach is a big meany stupidhead: you're hurting yourself more than you're hurting the program you're boycotting. Even mediocre coaches will find someone to fill in just fine without you. What happens when you decline to go out for a team in protest, and the team ends the season with a great record? Winning conference? Meanwhile, you wasted an athletic season of your youth sitting on your ***, snapchatting, and pouting, all while being aided and abetted by Mommy and Daddy. And what the hell is "downgrading?" Do you mean he's demoting them to JV? Post of the year.
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 12, 2017 7:22:54 GMT -5
The game has passed him by. Times have changed. They have underachieved. Amazing how they almost beat Clyde without him on the bench. The manner in which he speaks to young women is just downgrading. Perkins needs to get on board. Coach Neil does the same stuff and needs to go. Only 15 girls out and several already saying no way they are playing next year. You are right times have changed! NBA needs to load up their teams with all-stars to win because they don't want to work hard enough to do it themselves. You're right times have passed them by because they're used to kids who will bust their *** off to make it happen. You can't rarely find those type of kids anymore. Tucker, Neil are quality coaches with the knowledge to make young kids good outstanding citizens. Mom's and Dad's take their kids to the ER over a small cut on their finger. Softies Softies everywhere.
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Post by wfa on Feb 12, 2017 9:42:20 GMT -5
By downgrading I mean calling young ladies fat and dumb. Things of that nature. When's the last time they have won anything? Last time a tourney run? And as far as threats of not playing. It's not threats. It's happening. 2 seniors, no juniors, and more than half the freshmen did not come out. Don't be surprised if the Perkins program can only field a Varsity team next year.
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Post by wfa on Feb 12, 2017 10:00:28 GMT -5
I see it took two free throws by league leader Clyde to beat Margaretta by two without Tucker. Best game Margaretta played all year. With Tucker Clyde blew them out. Hmmm? Not saying they can't coach. Just sometimes change is good. You wouldn't want your child's teacher using the same style and lesson plans they used 15-20 years ago to teach today would you?
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 12, 2017 10:41:00 GMT -5
I see it took two free throws by league leader Clyde to beat Margaretta by two without Tucker. Best game Margaretta played all year. With Tucker Clyde blew them out. Hmmm? Not saying they can't coach. Just sometimes change is good. You wouldn't want your child's teacher using the same style and lesson plans they used 15-20 years ago to teach today would you? Your SOFT if you can't handle a coach getting in your Grill. How many jobs will these children have in a lifetime? You think their boss isnt going to get in their grill ? they will be welfare children. SOFT SOFT SOFT
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 12, 2017 11:03:17 GMT -5
You wouldn't want your child's teacher using the same style and lesson plans they used 15-20 years ago to teach today would you? You mean go look up information as opposed to getting on a computer and google searching? Yes I'd love these kids to go back to 20 years ago style. To learn how to WORK for something as opposed to having it at your finger tips without working. Could today's kids survive if all the computers in the world shut down? My god what would they do without their cell phones? Communication is huge in the education transfer to human working class. You obviously don't understand that. They wouldn't understand how to find information. Soft World which we live in. Why work for something when you can just steal it from someone else.
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Post by greenman on Feb 12, 2017 12:36:11 GMT -5
By downgrading I mean calling young ladies fat and dumb. Things of that nature. When's the last time they have won anything? Last time a tourney run? And as far as threats of not playing. It's not threats. It's happening. 2 seniors, no juniors, and more than half the freshmen did not come out. Don't be surprised if the Perkins program can only field a Varsity team next year. That's " degrading," and Ray Neill did not call girls on his basketball team fat or dumb. Didn't happen. Period. Someone's kid - maybe your's - is engaging in serious hyperbole or outright lies. This is precisely what I'm talking about. Players don't like what the ol' ball coach has to say, come home and cry to Mommy and Daddy, exaggerate or fabricate, and it's the coach's head, no matter what actually happened. When you say "When's the last time they won anything?", you betray yourself. You obviously know he's had success, and you're resentful it's not happening with your kid(s). They won conference my senior year - guess who was coaching: Ray Neill! They're 12-8 this year - what changed? Do you really think it's Ray? Do you really think that a coach with as much success in coaching multiple sports over a 40-year career would risk alienating a community just for the opportunity to call sixteen-year old girls fat and dumb? I'm thinking you're just another enabling parent to an undisciplined, over-entitled child who's never failed to receive a participation trophy, or you're friends with one. *Gasp!* You're kidding! You mean out of 250+ girls in grades 10-12, a handful that had come to try out before didn't?! Nooooooo! That's the beauty of it all, and my whole point. Every year, there's going to be kids raised as precious snowflakes rising through the ranks. Happily, every year, real competitors will rise even higher. No freshman team? So what? It's an unnecessary extension of middle school ball in any sport, in my opinion. No JV? Make the JV a team of freshman or nearly-all freshman, and cultivate them to be a battle-hardened group as they grow up. It's possible that this year's team may have missed the presence of those 2 seniors, but those seniors also missed out on being part of something bigger than themselves, missed possibly improving the team's record thanks to their own talent, and therefore missed out on a chance for appropriate accolades. Rather than being rightfully known as the backbone of a winning squad, some kids want their egos stroked now and forever, without ceasing. I've got a theory about the youngest of the millennial generation, in high schools and colleges right now across America - the Four Gratification types. In the last 50 years or so, every generation has been susceptible to at least one of them, but all four have come together in HS and college students in the last 3 years especially. Instant gratification, constant gratification, gratification on-demand, gratification free of charge. It's not just that they feel entitled to something - they feel entitled to everything, whenever they want it, without end, and without expense or sacrifice. Let the whiners whine and the quitters quit. The cream will rise. It always does.
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Post by greenman on Feb 12, 2017 12:37:52 GMT -5
You wouldn't want your child's teacher using the same style and lesson plans they used 15-20 years ago to teach today would you?
A million times this. The talking heads think laptops in classrooms are super. They're actually not. Sloth is rampant. Some years ago in Perkins, there were two teachers in particular who actually believed that allowing students access to their Smartphones in class was a good idea, that it would enrich them somehow. Over the objections of everyone else, that bizarre, unfounded claim won the day, and it's been a mess ever since. If I'm not mistaken, neither one of those teachers are there at this time. Now, you have to threaten detentions just to get them on task and off the texting, snapchatting, and Google-chatting, and when they finally do, they'll argue with you, as if they have any right in light of their rule-breaking, and treat you like garbage. wfa, you know nothing about basketball, about coaching, about how teenagers really are. You're clearly piping up for a precious snowflake that didn't get his/her way, and you think it's a crime somehow. You're an enabler, and you're hurting your child's cause, not helping it. Not by coming on here and protesting, but simply by being that way.
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Post by greenman on Feb 12, 2017 12:51:18 GMT -5
You know nothing about teaching, either. There are always some things that stay, some universal truths and methodologies that stand the test of time in the classroom.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 12, 2017 16:26:43 GMT -5
You wouldn't want your child's teacher using the same style and lesson plans they used 15-20 years ago to teach today would you? You mean go look up information as opposed to getting on a computer and google searching? Yes I'd love these kids to go back to 20 years ago style. To learn how to WORK for something as opposed to having it at your finger tips without working. Could today's kids survive if all the computers in the world shut down? My god what would they do without their cell phones? Communication is huge in the education transfer to human working class. You obviously don't understand that. They wouldn't understand how to find information. Soft World which we live in. Why work for something when you can just steal it from someone else. I have news for ya. As far back as 25 years ago there was a computer on every desk of every person who worked in the office of a major company. They are much more wide spread now. On the manufacturing shop floors to retail businesses.
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Post by greenman on Feb 12, 2017 17:08:10 GMT -5
You mean go look up information as opposed to getting on a computer and google searching? Yes I'd love these kids to go back to 20 years ago style. To learn how to WORK for something as opposed to having it at your finger tips without working. Could today's kids survive if all the computers in the world shut down? My god what would they do without their cell phones? Communication is huge in the education transfer to human working class. You obviously don't understand that. They wouldn't understand how to find information. Soft World which we live in. Why work for something when you can just steal it from someone else. I have news for ya. As far back as 25 years ago there was a computer on every desk of every person who worked in the office of a major company. They are much more wide spread now. On the manufacturing shop floors to retail businesses. And yet for all the advances, there are those who couldn't differentiate between "their," "they're," and "there" or "your" and "you're" to save their lives. Technology doesn't make these most basic skills obsolete, just the people who can't master them.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 12, 2017 17:19:24 GMT -5
The words you offered up have NOTHING to do with Technolgy. Just **** poor English teachers. Your standardized testing must show more failures than athletics.
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 12, 2017 17:21:29 GMT -5
You mean go look up information as opposed to getting on a computer and google searching? Yes I'd love these kids to go back to 20 years ago style. To learn how to WORK for something as opposed to having it at your finger tips without working. Could today's kids survive if all the computers in the world shut down? My god what would they do without their cell phones? Communication is huge in the education transfer to human working class. You obviously don't understand that. They wouldn't understand how to find information. Soft World which we live in. Why work for something when you can just steal it from someone else. I have news for ya. As far back as 25 years ago there was a computer on every desk of every person who worked in the office of a major company. They are much more wide spread now. On the manufacturing shop floors to retail businesses. We are talking about TEACHING children. Teaching them how to use a text book to find information. we are talking about how to communicate among each other. Kids need to learn old style values to be more successful.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 17:24:04 GMT -5
The comments he has made over the years about his players and team that were documented in the newspaper were ridiculous at times. I agree that society has become soft but he has been out of line numerous times on quotes in the paper. I am actually surprised he made it this long.
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Post by Hagen on Feb 13, 2017 8:50:56 GMT -5
Getting back on the main topic, I heard Tucker's assistant coaches have stepped down. Anyone confirm/deny? If true, who's coaching the team in his absence?
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Post by piratefan on Feb 13, 2017 8:59:15 GMT -5
Getting back on the main topic, I heard Tucker's assistant coaches have stepped down. Anyone confirm/deny? If true, who's coaching the team in his absence? I heard his wife resigned. Is Bailey coaching? I think he took over for awhile when Tucker was having some health problems a year or so ago.
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 13, 2017 10:52:12 GMT -5
JV coach is doing it remainder of the year. I think he is a lone duck in the pond at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 11:04:51 GMT -5
The comments he has made over the years about his players and team that were documented in the newspaper were ridiculous at times. I agree that society has become soft but he has been out of line numerous times on quotes in the paper. I am actually surprised he made it this long. really accurate assessment, at this point I think Tuckers should just move on. His wife has to be close to retirement. The girls program will probably never be the same, without a doubt the biggest mess I have ever seen involving firing a high school coach.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 16:25:36 GMT -5
Why not just wait to the season is over and non-renew him? Another example of a school board meddling
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 13, 2017 17:55:01 GMT -5
Why not just wait to the season is over and non-renew him? Another example of a school board meddling the school board hasnt even put a finger on it yet. the AD and principal made the decision on friday!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 19:02:48 GMT -5
Why not just wait to the season is over and non-renew him? Another example of a school board meddling the school board hasnt even put a finger on it yet. the AD and principal made the decision on friday! That's fine. Still doesn't answer my question
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 13, 2017 21:02:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 21:32:59 GMT -5
So he's suspended from his teaching position as well? What a joke
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