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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 20, 2017 22:41:24 GMT -5
First team: Jayrese Williams, Sandusky, senior, 25.0 ppg Wes Vent, Upper Sandusky, senior, 19.6 ppg Tyrell Aijan, Mansfield Madison, senior, 18.5 ppg Cade Stover, Lexington, sophomore, 15.0 ppg Trey Jordan, Ontario, senior, 10.2 ppg Davey Hipp, Shelby, senior, 15.6 ppg Ro Durham, Tiffin Columbian, senior, 15.1 ppg Connor Roesch, Perkins, senior, 13.8 ppg
Second team: Michael Hurst, Huron, junior, 15.0 ppg Joey Pfeil, Vermilion, junior, 13.6 ppg Keith Williams, Sandusky, junior, 12.0 ppg George Friend, Norwalk, senior, 16.0 ppg Owen Hartley, Bellevue, senior, 15.1 ppg Jackson Todd, Ontario, senior, 13.4 Kyle Jackson, Mansfield Madison, junior, 15.0 ppg
Honorable Mention: Jevon Dible, Upper Sandusky, junior, 14.1 ppg Austin Spitler, Perkins, senior, 9.3 ppg Joey Brenner, Port Clinton, senior, 11.7 ppg Joey Harkelroad, Huron, senior, 9.0 ppg Mason Montgomery, Vermilion, sophomore, 12.5 ppg Cavon Croom, Sandusky, junior, 12.0 ppg Todd Simonds, Tiffin Columbian, junior, 13.3 ppg Brock Kehres, Shelby, senior, 11.3 ppg Seth Hohman, Clyde, junior, 10.6 ppg
Player of the year: Jayrese Williams, Sandusky Coach of the year: Bobby James, Huron / Jeff Winslow, Upper Sandusky
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Post by dump on Feb 21, 2017 8:45:25 GMT -5
Congrats to Bobby James. Has done a heck of a job with the Tigers this year. Also, congrats to Jeff Winslow, a former Tiger head coach, and also my former health teacher. Heck of a guy, nice dick. Well deserved.
Go Tigers.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 21, 2017 13:50:36 GMT -5
No congratulations for Hurst and Harkelroad?
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 22, 2017 16:38:57 GMT -5
No place for the post that "dump" made --on this board. At some point the line has to be drawn.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 22, 2017 17:20:59 GMT -5
Click on the little wheel in the upper right hand corner to report his ignorance
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Post by portwalk on Feb 22, 2017 19:45:28 GMT -5
WF you I have debated since his soph. year the Trey Jordan vs Lenell Shelby comparison you initiated and their impact on the OHS bball program. I will say I was very impressed with Mr. Jordan the past couple seasons especially this year @ Norwalk. However 10ppg and not leading OHS to an NOL title in either year (oops shared last season) as a starter is not what the district 6 POY Lenell Shelby was able to accomplish leading the Warriors to back to back NOL titles... I know Lenell had many downside faults to his game, however he was an incredible athlete, that when motivated was an unbelievable defender and facilitator. Just curious do you stand by your initial assessment of the pair today???
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 22, 2017 22:01:29 GMT -5
Trey Jordon leads the team in assists.(2nd in the Mansfield area) Many of the amazing variety. Leads the team in steals. Is 2nd in scoring. Is 2nd in 3 pointers made.(much better than Lenell) AND LEADS the team in rebounding, even though he's the shortest player in the starting line up, which includes a 6-7 and a 6-5. Only 6-0 he snatches rebounds right off the rim. Trey is BY FAR the most ambidextrous player I've ever seen. He's left handed, but when given a choice to drive to his left or right he almost always goes to his right. When he shoots floaters in the lane, which he is very good at, he always uses his right hand. A couple of games ago he was out in front on a fast break coming down the left side of the court and even used his right(off hand) to shoot the layup on the left side of the basket. NEVER seen that before. He prefers to go to his right when breaking a press. He's a pass first PG, but will look to score first if the team needs a basket or when he feels he has a decisive athletic or size advantage on the guy who's defending him. He is a very respected leader on and off the court. NO technical fouls, NO drama. Typical of a Balogh team, there's balanced scoring; 13.5, 10.5, 9, 7, 7. Facilitated by Trey's assists. Trey could have been the leading scorer on this team, but that was not his role. TEAM first. I wasn't always sure of that with Lenell.
Lenell was a score first PG. At 5-10 was a more physical PG. Could post up and score on even taller defenders. Being physical he got fouled a lot on drives to the basket and was a little better free throw shooter than Trey. Lenell could not shoot floaters in the lane. Trey is a better 3-point shooter. Lenell had a better mid-range jumper. Equally quick, both State Meet fast, Lenell was one of the fastest I've seen from one end of the court to the other. He had a knack when dribbling fast to push the ball out in front of him some and catch up to it for the next dribble. Had to have a long stride to be a 13.8 high hurdler at only 5-10 tall. Lenell started 2 years, Trey started 3 years.
They both were 1st team District 6. Only scoring 10ppg the voters understood Trey's value to his team and his overall game, for him to be voted 1st Team. The reason Lenell was POY, was him being a Senior and Jayrese was a Sophomore. Every year older Jayrese got, the better Sandusky became. If Lenell was the starting PG this year, Sandusky still wins the NOL Title. Ontario was blessed to have 2 players of Lenell and Trey's abilities. I prefer my PG to be a pass first PG, with no drama. It's JMO, but I think Trey is the better overall PG, but not by a lot.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 22, 2017 22:52:36 GMT -5
Trey Jordon leads the team in assists.(2nd in the Mansfield area) Many of the amazing variety. Leads the team in steals. Is 2nd in scoring. Is 2nd in 3 pointers made.(much better than Lenell) AND LEADS the team in rebounding, even though he's the shortest player in the starting line up, which includes a 6-7 and a 6-5. Only 6-0 he snatches rebounds right off the rim. Trey is BY FAR the most ambidextrous player I've ever seen. He's left handed, but when given a choice to drive to his left or right he almost always goes to his right. When he shoots floaters in the lane, which he is very good at, he always uses his right hand. A couple of games ago he was out in front on a fast break coming down the left side of the court and even used his right(off hand) to shoot the layup on the left side of the basket. NEVER seen that before. He prefers to go to his right when breaking a press. He's a pass first PG, but will look to score first if the team needs a basket or when he feels he has a decisive athletic or size advantage on the guy who's defending him. He is a very respected leader on and off the court. NO technical fouls, NO drama. Typical of a Balogh team, there's balanced scoring; 13.5, 10, 9, 7, 7. Facilitated by Trey's assists. Trey could have been the leading scorer on this team, but that was not his role. TEAM first. I wasn't always sure of that with Lenell. Lenell was a score first PG. At 5-10 was a more physical PG. Could post up and score on even taller defenders. Being physical he got fouled a lot on drives to the basket and was a little better free throw shooter than Trey. Lenell could not shoot floaters in the lane. Trey is a better 3-point shooter. Lenell had a better mid-range jumper. Equally quick, both State Meet fast, Lenell was one of the fastest I've seen from one end of the court to the other. He had a knack when dribbling fast to push the ball out in front of him some and catch up to it for the next dribble. Had to have a long stride to be a 13.8 high hurdler at only 5-10 tall. Lenell started 2 years, Trey started 3 years. They both were 1st team District 6. Only scoring 10ppg the voters understood Trey's value to his team and his overall game, for him to be voted 1st Team. The reason Lenell was POY, was him being a Senior and Jayrese was a Sophomore. Every year older Jayrese got, the better Sandusky became. If Lenell was the starting PG this year, Sandusky still wins the NOL Title. Ontario was blessed to have 2 players of Lenell and Trey's abilities. I prefer my PG to be a pass first PG, with no drama. It's JMO, but I think Trey is the better overall PG, but not by a lot. Not going to disagree with most of this other than to say Williams or no Williams Jordan is NOT the POY... I believe the order of votes received is shown below Vent, Aijan, Stover then Jordan. Shelby's senior season Ontario's roster was NOT loaded with talent yet they were an upset win by Sandusky away from winning OHS's first D2 District title (with a 24-1 record including running the table in the NOL). This season unless Ontario upsets some folks the farthest a Jordan led OHS team will advanced is a sectional title... Maybe this year he finally gets the best of Jayrese come tournament time....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 23:01:36 GMT -5
port, from what I saw, Jordan is a multi-year starter that has the support of his coach but many see him as a solid point guard in the Ontario system. Shelby was an impact player that could carry his team at times. Unfortunately his impact could also be negative. If I had 1 game to play and could get the best game from either one. I would take the POY.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 23, 2017 1:15:57 GMT -5
Trey Jordon leads the team in assists.(2nd in the Mansfield area) Many of the amazing variety. Leads the team in steals. Is 2nd in scoring. Is 2nd in 3 pointers made.(much better than Lenell) AND LEADS the team in rebounding, even though he's the shortest player in the starting line up, which includes a 6-7 and a 6-5. Only 6-0 he snatches rebounds right off the rim. Trey is BY FAR the most ambidextrous player I've ever seen. He's left handed, but when given a choice to drive to his left or right he almost always goes to his right. When he shoots floaters in the lane, which he is very good at, he always uses his right hand. A couple of games ago he was out in front on a fast break coming down the left side of the court and even used his right(off hand) to shoot the layup on the left side of the basket. NEVER seen that before. He prefers to go to his right when breaking a press. He's a pass first PG, but will look to score first if the team needs a basket or when he feels he has a decisive athletic or size advantage on the guy who's defending him. He is a very respected leader on and off the court. NO technical fouls, NO drama. Typical of a Balogh team, there's balanced scoring; 13.5, 10, 9, 7, 7. Facilitated by Trey's assists. Trey could have been the leading scorer on this team, but that was not his role. TEAM first. I wasn't always sure of that with Lenell. Lenell was a score first PG. At 5-10 was a more physical PG. Could post up and score on even taller defenders. Being physical he got fouled a lot on drives to the basket and was a little better free throw shooter than Trey. Lenell could not shoot floaters in the lane. Trey is a better 3-point shooter. Lenell had a better mid-range jumper. Equally quick, both State Meet fast, Lenell was one of the fastest I've seen from one end of the court to the other. He had a knack when dribbling fast to push the ball out in front of him some and catch up to it for the next dribble. Had to have a long stride to be a 13.8 high hurdler at only 5-10 tall. Lenell started 2 years, Trey started 3 years. They both were 1st team District 6. Only scoring 10ppg the voters understood Trey's value to his team and his overall game, for him to be voted 1st Team. The reason Lenell was POY, was him being a Senior and Jayrese was a Sophomore. Every year older Jayrese got, the better Sandusky became. If Lenell was the starting PG this year, Sandusky still wins the NOL Title. Ontario was blessed to have 2 players of Lenell and Trey's abilities. I prefer my PG to be a pass first PG, with no drama. It's JMO, but I think Trey is the better overall PG, but not by a lot. Not going to disagree with most of this other than to say Williams or no Williams Jordan is NOT the POY... I believe the order of votes received is shown below Vent, Aijan, Stover then Jordan. Shelby's senior season Ontario's roster was NOT loaded with talent yet they were an upset win by Sandusky away from winning OHS's first D2 District title (with a 24-1 record including running the table in the NOL). This season unless Ontario upsets some folks the farthest a Jordan led OHS team will advanced is a sectional title... Maybe this year he finally gets the best of Jayrese come tournament time.... port, My post is a long one, going into detail about both players. Please read it again. You will see that NO WHERE in it did I even imply Jordon is POY. That would be silliness. I disagree with your contention that Lenell's Senior year he didn't have much talent with him. Starters included Soph Trey Jordon. 6-1 Senior guard Paul Homan, the best 3-point shooter Ontario has had in many years. 6-3 Senior Bradley Garverick a jumping jack rebounder, shot blocker guard/forward, a decent 3-point shooter. 6-4 Junior Andrew Rathburn, the best post player since Mack. 6-0 Soph guard Quan Jackson came off the bench, he started the past 2 years. 5-9 Junior Griffin Niss, a feared 3-point shooter specialist came off the bench. 6-2 Junior Corey Thomas another jumping jack came off the bench, could play post or off guard, the best player on last year's team. 5-10 Junior Alex Vrandenburgh, a defensive specialist, came off the bench. That team was the deepest team in Balogh's 32 years. He truly had a 9 player rotation that year. Unlike the Huron goof balls who predict a State Title. I have not claimed Ontario will win a game, although they should beat PC. Why would Ontario beat Vermilion an SBC power? Why would Ontario beat Lex or Sandusky? They've already lost to Lex once and Sandusky twice.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 23, 2017 15:46:15 GMT -5
Not going to disagree with most of this other than to say Williams or no Williams Jordan is NOT the POY... I believe the order of votes received is shown below Vent, Aijan, Stover then Jordan. Shelby's senior season Ontario's roster was NOT loaded with talent yet they were an upset win by Sandusky away from winning OHS's first D2 District title (with a 24-1 record including running the table in the NOL). This season unless Ontario upsets some folks the farthest a Jordan led OHS team will advanced is a sectional title... Maybe this year he finally gets the best of Jayrese come tournament time.... port, My post is a long one, going into detail about both players. Please read it again. You will see that NO WHERE in it did I even imply Jordon is POY. That would be silliness. I disagree with your contention that Lenell's Senior year he didn't have much talent with him. Starters included Soph Trey Jordon. 6-1 Senior guard Paul Homan, the best 3-point shooter Ontario has had in many years. 6-3 Senior Bradley Garverick a jumping jack rebounder, shot blocker guard/forward, a decent 3-point shooter. 6-4 Junior Andrew Rathburn, the best post player since Mack. 6-0 Soph guard Quan Jackson came off the bench, he started the past 2 years. 5-9 Junior Griffin Niss, a feared 3-point shooter specialist came off the bench. 6-2 Junior Corey Thomas another jumping jack came off the bench, could play post or off guard, the best player on last year's team. 5-10 Junior Alex Vrandenburgh, a defensive specialist, came off the bench. That team was the deepest team in Balogh's 32 years. He truly had a 9 player rotation that year. Unlike the Huron goof balls who predict a State Title. I have not claimed Ontario will win a game, although they should beat PC. Why would Ontario beat Vermilion an SBC power? Why would Ontario beat Lex or Sandusky? They've already lost to Lex once and Sandusky twice. Not worth debating your opinion of the two as you've stated it pretty clearly. However to call that OHS roster in 2015 Joe's deepest ever is pretty bold. Keep in mind that the 2014 team beat the eventual STATE champion, ended a 50 plus game win streak in the process. Only lost ONE game heading into the Tournament and a #1 ranking in the state. Cam Mack (best player in the NOL not named Jeff Thomas imo) in the low post, and another wing that was a shooter (you know OHS bball better than me) so how could that roster NOT be deeper while Gaverick and Rathburn were bench players if I'm not mistaken??? Oh well we'll agree to disagree about the 13-14 roster I guess....
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 23, 2017 20:09:21 GMT -5
Do you know what the definition of "deep" means in terms of a basketball team? The rotation on Lenell's team went NINE players deep. A mathematical fact, that Lenell's team was the deepest in Joes's 32 years. Didn't say the most talented. There is a big difference between most talented team and deepest team. Ontario has had more talented teams than the 2013-2014. Just because that team had their best game of the year in the 1st Norwalk game and Norwalk played an average game and lost in the last seconds of the game, doesn't make it Ontario's most "talented team". Remind us, what happened in the 2nd Norwalk/Ontario game that year. It would take a post 3 times as long as the one above to explain why there have been more talented teams. Having a 9 player rotation allows a coach to do many things OR not have to do some things, when he can only go 7 players deep, like this year.
Thought of another aspect that favors Trey over Lenell. Lenell was often in foul trouble, sitting on the end of the bench pouting, when he could have been on the floor helping his team. Thus far this year, Trey has not been in foul trouble once.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 23, 2017 21:30:19 GMT -5
Do you know what the definition of "deep" means in terms of a basketball team? The rotation on Lenell's team went NINE players deep. A mathematical fact, that Lenell's team was the deepest in Joes's 32 years. Didn't say the most talented. There is a big difference between most talented team and deepest team. Ontario has had more talented teams than the 2013-2014. Just because that team had their best game of the year in the 1st Norwalk game and Norwalk played an average game and lost in the last seconds of the game, doesn't make it Ontario's most "talented team". Remind us, what happened in the 2nd Norwalk/Ontario game that year. It would take a post 3 times as long as the one above to explain why there have been more talented teams. Having a 9 player rotation allows a coach to do many things OR not have to do some things, when he can only go 7 players deep, like this year. Thought of another aspect that favors Trey over Lenell. Lenell was often in foul trouble, sitting on the end of the bench pouting, when he could have been on the floor helping his team. Thus far this year, Trey has not been in foul trouble once. You have to get angry as you often do... Just stating my opinion In 2013-14 they had at a minimum of 7-8 really talented players and Norwalk stood in their way. So in 2015 they had 9 deep... (who cares) I have never seen a basketball team or a coach play 9 deep and win a STATE title which is the goal correct? So 8 or 9 does it really matter when it counts? Norwalk WON a state title with 7 deep and basically 5 and 2 role players. So if deep means 9 vs 8 then you are correct. However do you believe that the 15 roster was more talented, than the 16 roster??? The difference imo is in 15 they were Undefeated in the NOL and lost to a LESSER Sandusky team that ROSE up and got it done in the tournament, in 16 (Jordan led) they were NOT better than Sandusky (as they won 2 of 3) and got bounced ... GO Warriors GO NOL...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:50:33 GMT -5
In my opinion and with no disrespect, Jordan has not improved much since his sophomore year. I don't think he makes the team better like Shelby did. His numbers are decent but nothing eye opening. Williams from Sandusky makes everyone around him better.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 23, 2017 23:01:14 GMT -5
Do you know what the definition of "deep" means in terms of a basketball team? The rotation on Lenell's team went NINE players deep. A mathematical fact, that Lenell's team was the deepest in Joes's 32 years. Didn't say the most talented. There is a big difference between most talented team and deepest team. Ontario has had more talented teams than the 2013-2014. Just because that team had their best game of the year in the 1st Norwalk game and Norwalk played an average game and lost in the last seconds of the game, doesn't make it Ontario's most "talented team". Remind us, what happened in the 2nd Norwalk/Ontario game that year. It would take a post 3 times as long as the one above to explain why there have been more talented teams. Having a 9 player rotation allows a coach to do many things OR not have to do some things, when he can only go 7 players deep, like this year. Thought of another aspect that favors Trey over Lenell. Lenell was often in foul trouble, sitting on the end of the bench pouting, when he could have been on the floor helping his team. Thus far this year, Trey has not been in foul trouble once. You have to get angry as you often do... Just stating my opinion In 2013-14 they had at a minimum of 7-8 really talented players and Norwalk stood in their way. So in 2015 they had 9 deep... (who cares) I have never seen a basketball team or a coach play 9 deep and win a STATE title which is the goal correct? So 8 or 9 does it really matter when it counts? Norwalk WON a state title with 7 deep and basically 5 and 2 role players. So if deep means 9 vs 8 then you are correct. However do you believe that the 15 roster was more talented, than the 16 roster??? The difference imo is in 15 they were Undefeated in the NOL and lost to a LESSER Sandusky team that ROSE up and got it done in the tournament, in 16 (Jordan led) they were NOT better than Sandusky (as they won 2 of 3) and got bounced ... GO Warriors GO NOL... Angry? Just carrying on an intelligent conversation. You're one of the few on here who can. in 2013-2014 Norwalk was a far superior team to Ontario. Norwalk had 2 Div.I caliber players, Ontario had none. They didn't even have a player play Div.III. Norwalk just got unlucky in one game that year. In 2014-2015 Ontario had a far superior team to Norwalk. No Div.1 players, No Div.II players, no Div.III players. The 9 player rotation was key to their success. Balogh cares A LOT about how deep his teams are. Never having any Div.1 players like Norwalk did, depth is a big factor for him in winning the many games he has won. in 2014-2015 Ontario lost to, as YOU say, a LESSER Sandusky team. Just like Norwalk lost to a LESSER Ontario team the year before. Being as knowledgeable about high school basketball as you are, you know that the BETTER team does not always win.
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Post by lyletint3 on Feb 23, 2017 23:08:51 GMT -5
Trey Jordon leads the team in assists.(2nd in the Mansfield area) Many of the amazing variety. Leads the team in steals. Is 2nd in scoring. Is 2nd in 3 pointers made.(much better than Lenell) AND LEADS the team in rebounding, even though he's the shortest player in the starting line up, which includes a 6-7 and a 6-5. Only 6-0 he snatches rebounds right off the rim. Trey is BY FAR the most ambidextrous player I've ever seen. He's left handed, but when given a choice to drive to his left or right he almost always goes to his right. When he shoots floaters in the lane, which he is very good at, he always uses his right hand. A couple of games ago he was out in front on a fast break coming down the left side of the court and even used his right(off hand) to shoot the layup on the left side of the basket. NEVER seen that before. He prefers to go to his right when breaking a press. He's a pass first PG, but will look to score first if the team needs a basket or when he feels he has a decisive athletic or size advantage on the guy who's defending him. He is a very respected leader on and off the court. NO technical fouls, NO drama. Typical of a Balogh team, there's balanced scoring; 13.5, 10.5, 9, 7, 7. Facilitated by Trey's assists. Trey could have been the leading scorer on this team, but that was not his role. TEAM first. I wasn't always sure of that with Lenell. Lenell was a score first PG. At 5-10 was a more physical PG. Could post up and score on even taller defenders. Being physical he got fouled a lot on drives to the basket and was a little better free throw shooter than Trey. Lenell could not shoot floaters in the lane. Trey is a better 3-point shooter. Lenell had a better mid-range jumper. Equally quick, both State Meet fast, Lenell was one of the fastest I've seen from one end of the court to the other. He had a knack when dribbling fast to push the ball out in front of him some and catch up to it for the next dribble. Had to have a long stride to be a 13.8 high hurdler at only 5-10 tall. Lenell started 2 years, Trey started 3 years. They both were 1st team District 6. Only scoring 10ppg the voters understood Trey's value to his team and his overall game, for him to be voted 1st Team. The reason Lenell was POY, was him being a Senior and Jayrese was a Sophomore. Every year older Jayrese got, the better Sandusky became. If Lenell was the starting PG this year, Sandusky still wins the NOL Title. Ontario was blessed to have 2 players of Lenell and Trey's abilities. I prefer my PG to be a pass first PG, with no drama. It's JMO, but I think Trey is the better overall PG, but not by a lot. Dumpy Fillmore writes novels on a high school sports forum. Get better dumpy *** Fillmore and any adults or kids who are reading.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 23, 2017 23:21:48 GMT -5
In my opinion and with no disrespect, Jordan has not improved much since his sophomore year. I don't think he makes the team better like Shelby did. His numbers are decent but nothing eye opening. Williams from Sandusky makes everyone around him better. Jordon has improved every aspect of his game over the past 2 years, except for scoring. Jordon is 2nd on the team in scoring. He could easily be leading the team in scoring, but that's not his role. Jordon has the 2nd most 3-pointers on the team, he is a better 3-point shooter than he was the previous 2 years. Jordon leads the team in steals, which is an improvement over the previous 2 years. Jordon leads the team in assists, 2nd in the Mansfield area, an improvement over the previous 2 years. The 6-0 PG Jordon LEADS the team in rebounds, how often do you see that? Which is a definite improvement over the previous 2 years. Jordon makes everyone around him better by being a pass first PG. The role that Balogh wants him to play for THE TEAM. Surely as a basketball expert, you know that scoring is just one of the many ways to help your team win. BTW, the leading scorer for Ontario made 2nd team District 6. Jordon made 1st Team District 6.(an improvement over the previous 2 yeas) Those doing the voting appreciate Jordon's overall game and his importance to the TEAM. Where as those with lesser basketball intellects, would have automatically given the nod to the leading scorer. JMO, after seeing him play 85 games
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 23, 2017 23:30:19 GMT -5
Trey Jordon leads the team in assists.(2nd in the Mansfield area) Many of the amazing variety. Leads the team in steals. Is 2nd in scoring. Is 2nd in 3 pointers made.(much better than Lenell) AND LEADS the team in rebounding, even though he's the shortest player in the starting line up, which includes a 6-7 and a 6-5. Only 6-0 he snatches rebounds right off the rim. Trey is BY FAR the most ambidextrous player I've ever seen. He's left handed, but when given a choice to drive to his left or right he almost always goes to his right. When he shoots floaters in the lane, which he is very good at, he always uses his right hand. A couple of games ago he was out in front on a fast break coming down the left side of the court and even used his right(off hand) to shoot the layup on the left side of the basket. NEVER seen that before. He prefers to go to his right when breaking a press. He's a pass first PG, but will look to score first if the team needs a basket or when he feels he has a decisive athletic or size advantage on the guy who's defending him. He is a very respected leader on and off the court. NO technical fouls, NO drama. Typical of a Balogh team, there's balanced scoring; 13.5, 10.5, 9, 7, 7. Facilitated by Trey's assists. Trey could have been the leading scorer on this team, but that was not his role. TEAM first. I wasn't always sure of that with Lenell. Lenell was a score first PG. At 5-10 was a more physical PG. Could post up and score on even taller defenders. Being physical he got fouled a lot on drives to the basket and was a little better free throw shooter than Trey. Lenell could not shoot floaters in the lane. Trey is a better 3-point shooter. Lenell had a better mid-range jumper. Equally quick, both State Meet fast, Lenell was one of the fastest I've seen from one end of the court to the other. He had a knack when dribbling fast to push the ball out in front of him some and catch up to it for the next dribble. Had to have a long stride to be a 13.8 high hurdler at only 5-10 tall. Lenell started 2 years, Trey started 3 years. They both were 1st team District 6. Only scoring 10ppg the voters understood Trey's value to his team and his overall game, for him to be voted 1st Team. The reason Lenell was POY, was him being a Senior and Jayrese was a Sophomore. Every year older Jayrese got, the better Sandusky became. If Lenell was the starting PG this year, Sandusky still wins the NOL Title. Ontario was blessed to have 2 players of Lenell and Trey's abilities. I prefer my PG to be a pass first PG, with no drama. It's JMO, but I think Trey is the better overall PG, but not by a lot. Dumpy Fillmore writes novels on a high school sports forum. Get better dumpy *** Fillmore and any adults or kids who are reading. This is the best you can do?? A mental midget.
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Post by lyletint3 on Feb 24, 2017 0:41:04 GMT -5
Dumpy Fillmore writes novels on a high school sports forum. Get better dumpy *** Fillmore and any adults or kids who are reading. This is the best you can do?? A mental midget. Are you bragging about the fact that you write Mark Twain novels on a high school sports forum? Just get better dumpy Fillmore. Sorry I couldn't write more dumpy garbage like you do every day of your life.
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Post by Debbie Downer on Feb 24, 2017 7:21:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry to be a downer on your own pity party but the better team always wins, that's why we crown State Champs. Ontario was obviously better than Norwalk that day that's why they won the game. Norwalk improved after that game while Ontario went down the tubes. Maybe your team lost it's legs from too much partying after their Norwalk win.
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 24, 2017 9:28:56 GMT -5
I'm sorry to be a downer on your own pity party but the better team always wins, that's why we crown State Champs. Ontario was obviously better than Norwalk that day that's why they won the game. Norwalk improved after that game while Ontario went down the tubes. Maybe your team lost it's legs from too much partying after their Norwalk win. Shannon and I laugh about this on our show! Ontario, no not Canada, but Mansfield Ontario, Our question to our viewers is. What is their record as a D-2 team in the tournament? Has famous Joe ever taken his team to states?
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 24, 2017 12:39:46 GMT -5
The usernames DD and Skip Bayless? This is getting rich. I'm ready to pound the desk, and scream Asinine, Asiten, and Asieleven.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 24, 2017 14:12:15 GMT -5
This is the best you can do?? A mental midget. Are you bragging about the fact that you write Mark Twain novels on a high school sports forum? Just get better dumpy Fillmore. Sorry I couldn't write more dumpy garbage like you do every day of your life. You would be the braggart, predicting Huron is going to win the State Title this year. I was asked to compare Lenell Shelby and Trey Jordon. That's what I did with as many facts, stats and information as possible. Once again you've proven yourself to be a mental midget.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 24, 2017 14:21:45 GMT -5
I'm sorry to be a downer on your own pity party but the better team always wins, that's why we crown State Champs. Ontario was obviously better than Norwalk that day that's why they won the game. Norwalk improved after that game while Ontario went down the tubes. Maybe your team lost it's legs from too much partying after their Norwalk win. That is THE dumbest thing ever written on a sports web site. You're trying to tell us that there has NEVER been an upset, the better team has ALWAYS won in the millions of games played around the world at all levels in the history of basketball??? As I said, Ontario played their best game of the season, Norwalk played average, Ontario won by a basket. The TRUE definition of an upset. A typical short sighted thought on basketball by a female.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 24, 2017 14:25:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry to be a downer on your own pity party but the better team always wins, that's why we crown State Champs. Ontario was obviously better than Norwalk that day that's why they won the game. Norwalk improved after that game while Ontario went down the tubes. Maybe your team lost it's legs from too much partying after their Norwalk win. Shannon and I laugh about this on our show! Ontario, no not Canada, but Mansfield Ontario, Our question to our viewers is. What is their record as a D-2 team in the tournament? Has famous Joe ever taken his team to states? For a big shot TV sports guy your knowledge is worse than a terminal disease.
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Post by Skip Bayless on Feb 24, 2017 21:18:48 GMT -5
Shannon and I laugh about this on our show! Ontario, no not Canada, but Mansfield Ontario, Our question to our viewers is. What is their record as a D-2 team in the tournament? Has famous Joe ever taken his team to states? For a big shot TV sports guy you knowledge is worse than a terminal disease. Thank you, i take that as a compliment! District Joe finishes 3rd in the NOL this year?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 24, 2017 22:15:29 GMT -5
Fake news from our national sports expert, who knows nothing about local sports. Ontario did not finish 3rd in the NOL. If knowledgeable about local sports our national star would know that this Ontario team finishes the regular season just barely above average by Balogh standards.
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