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Post by sportsjock on May 1, 2017 6:11:21 GMT -5
As WM pointed out, the highlight video dispels the myth that J.T.'s record setting pass game is primarily 8 to 15 yard dump offs. In order for the 'keep em honest' deep throw to develop, the OL needs to sustain blocks and too often, there were consistent breakdowns last year. The run game sets up the play action pass as a rule for a pro-style QB, not necessarily so with the read option, where the opposite is often the case. When J.T. went down, in the Michigan game, he had amassed 179 passing yards and accumulated over 2,500 yds. up to that point. Cardale's emergence was storybook material, but to make any kind of assumption that the final results (National Championship) would not have come out the same, is totally unfare to J.T. The OL performed to a consistently high level throughout that playoff run. Storybook material? No, that's what a qb is supposed to do when he is surrounded by top level NFL draft picks. And he did indeed, when he had a smooth functioning OL to operate behind. Last year, he was operating at a tremendous dis-advantage, given the inconsistencies of the unit in front of him, and despite the glaring, major team weakness last season, he STILL earned Big Ten QB of the Year! The OL took their lumps last season, they became the focus and attention of everyone in the off season and through natural maturity, conditioning and coaching, fortified by talented incoming freshmen, expect this unit to redeem themselves.
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Post by galion on May 1, 2017 10:31:13 GMT -5
I would argue that JT made that line look worse than they actually were. He double pumped damn near every throw he made and doesn't make decisions quickly enough to begin with. I don't know if he just doesn't trust what he sees downfield or is simply afraid to make a mistake. But the kindest thing that I can say about him last season is that he was indecisive in the pocket. Her certainly doesn't move nearly as well as he did his freshman year before the injury.
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Post by sportsjock on May 1, 2017 11:00:49 GMT -5
J.T. and certainly the Ohio State coaching staff understand the nature of sports fans.
Even the Ohio State fans, who are the best fan base in college football, but there remains a certain element of that base that are terribly fickle and will turn on you in an instant.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 1, 2017 15:23:55 GMT -5
The majority opinion is, J.T. Barrett is a very special player and history will be very kind in reference to J.T. Barrett So special that he will NOT get drafted. Hey Willard Trollmore, throwing the ball wasn't the thing back in the 1940's or 1970's. Football is about throwing the ball now. Tim Tebow was a 1st round pick. JT Barrett will watch every round go by and not be drafted by any of the 32 teams. Dumbo McClain doesn't comprehend per definition that HE'S the "troll". All I've done is refute his trollisms. Still needed a QB who threw the ball in the '40's to '70's. If not a cheerleader could play QB. What then?? A QB got drafted if he made good hand offs to running backs? You prove your ignorance of URBAN MEYERS'S SPREAD READ OPTION OFFENSE. It IS NOT a "throwing the ball" offense. It is a run first offense, in which the running game MUST be successful FIRST in order for the play action pass plays to work. In the MSU, Penn State and Clemson games the running game was horrendous, yet a small fringe minority says it was SOLELY the QB's fault for those losses. Tim Tebow was a bust in the NFL. Denver wishes they would have never wasted that 1st round pick. Knowing what is known now about Tebow, NO team would have wasted a pick on him. Urban Meyer had the NFL fooled. Tebow wasn't a good QB for the NFL, his receivers and Urban's offense made him look like it. After Tebow, only a neophyte would believe that JT or ANY QB in Urban's offense would be a draft worthy QB. BUT, Urban's QB will win 91% of their games. FIRE Urban, Dumbo McClain would rather have Cliff Kingsbury and his air raid offense as head coach.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 1, 2017 15:30:47 GMT -5
As WM pointed out, the highlight video dispels the myth that J.T.'s record setting pass game is primarily 8 to 15 yard dump offs. In order for the 'keep em honest' deep throw to develop, the OL needs to sustain blocks and too often, there were consistent breakdowns last year. The run game sets up the play action pass as a rule for a pro-style QB, not necessarily so with the read option, where the opposite is often the case. When J.T. went down, in the Michigan game, he had amassed 179 passing yards and accumulated over 2,500 yds. up to that point. Cardale's emergence was storybook material, but to make any kind of assumption that the final results (National Championship) would not have come out the same, is totally unfare to J.T. The OL performed to a consistently high level throughout that playoff run. Storybook material? No, that's what a qb is supposed to do when he is surrounded by top level NFL draft picks. The story behind the storybook material. 90% of the pass plays and 50% of the running plays were taken out of the playbook in order for Cardale to play QB for Ohio State in those 3 games. He was told ONLY throw passes near the side line. Considerably reducing the chances of INTs. Without Devin Smith, Zeke and the O-line, Ohio State could not have outscored Alabama or Oregon to win those games. Urban would never have recruited Cardale. Without Jim Tressel giving Cardale one of the last scholarships and sending him off to Fork Union for a year to get his grades in order and grow up some. He wouldn't even have been at Ohio State in 2014.
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Post by tommygunn on May 1, 2017 15:44:18 GMT -5
JT is much slower than previous years. He does indeed double pump all the time which does nothing but throw everything and everyone off, except the D who knows this. JT is afraid to make mistakes and throw downfield on a regular basis.
The facts and stats just aren't there to backup that he is some great qb. So he has a lot of OSU records, which btw were not too hard to break considering the inconsistency OSU has had at the QB position over the last 40 years. Lets not also forget, not too long ago, the Big 10 was known for its RBs and running game.
If JT plays all year, OSU will not make it back to the playoff games, mark that in the books.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 1, 2017 16:43:17 GMT -5
JT is much slower than previous years. He does indeed double pump all the time which does nothing but throw everything and everyone off, except the D who knows this. JT is afraid to make mistakes and throw downfield on a regular basis. The facts and stats just aren't there to backup that he is some great qb. So he has a lot of OSU records, which btw were not too hard to break considering the inconsistency OSU has had at the QB position over the last 40 years. Lets not also forget, not too long ago, the Big 10 was known for its RBs and running game. If JT plays all year, OSU will not make it back to the playoff games, mark that in the books. If JT is "much slower" than previous years then the Browns really F'd up when they drafted Peppers. Don't you remember JT's 30 yard run in the Michigan game this year when Peppers was 2 yards behind JT at the start of the run and never caught him. Watch the video, he doesn't double pump or single pump on any of his passes. I don't know of anyone who's said JT is "some great QB". If you've been paying attention what HAS been said is that JT is a perfect fit for URBAN MEYER'S SPREAD READ OPTION OFFENSE and after the 2nd game his Freshman year he's 25-3 as a starting QB. A fringe minority of supposed Ohio State fans say that makes him a complete failure, since OSU wasn't 28-0 in those games and won 3 National Championships in a row. BTW, Ohio State made it to the Final Four last year having the youngest team in the country. "Experts" say of all teams in the country, Ohio State has the highest probability of going undefeated in the regular season this year. Do you suppose they think JT graduated?
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Post by DrTorch on May 1, 2017 16:59:52 GMT -5
that's why there's never a defender out of place
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Post by sportsjock on May 1, 2017 17:31:44 GMT -5
JT is much slower than previous years. He does indeed double pump all the time which does nothing but throw everything and everyone off, except the D who knows this. JT is afraid to make mistakes and throw downfield on a regular basis. The facts and stats just aren't there to backup that he is some great qb. So he has a lot of OSU records, which btw were not too hard to break considering the inconsistency OSU has had at the QB position over the last 40 years. Lets not also forget, not too long ago, the Big 10 was known for its RBs and running game. If JT plays all year, OSU will not make it back to the playoff games, mark that in the books. Watch the video, he doesn't double pump or single pump on any of his passes. Neither does he smack the ball three times before releasing his throw.....lol
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 2, 2017 1:30:05 GMT -5
that's why there's never a defender out of place No, a defender WAS "out of place" on every completion or the pass would not have been completed. It would have been broken up or intercepted.
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Post by tommygunn on May 2, 2017 7:32:48 GMT -5
JT is garbage.
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 2, 2017 8:49:03 GMT -5
I see Willard Trollmore is back from his ban. Now he's spreading the lie that JT Barrett is the perfect QB for Urban. The dude put up 0 points vs a mediocre Clemson defense, how on Earth is that perfect. Ban him again for trolling with lies.
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Post by sportsjock on May 2, 2017 9:56:02 GMT -5
"JT is garbage."
I see we're turning up the volume on the vitriolic rhetoric...lol
The only opinions that truly matter are those shared by Urban Meyer, Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day.
You can quote me on this: Expect "Noodle Arm" or "Garbage Man" to be in New York for the Heisman presentation, barring injury.
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Post by tommygunn on May 2, 2017 12:03:13 GMT -5
What do you think Urban is going to say? It is his player, he is going to defend him. Sports guru's from around the nation have judged J.T and its not real positive. He doesn't win the big games that matter. He was abysmal as the season went on last year. He is only good against mediocre teams. Yes OSU beat OU at OU, but ill use the Will Trollmore quote "JT just chucked balls up in the endzone and the WR's made the grabs, there was no skill in what JT did".
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Post by 4 on May 2, 2017 18:23:05 GMT -5
If any one has a twitter I have a browns/buckeyes fan page started. Nothing big but a follow would be appreciated @clefan18
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 0:46:11 GMT -5
I see Willard Trollmore is back from his ban. Now he's spreading the lie that JT Barrett is the perfect QB for Urban. The dude put up 0 points vs a mediocre Clemson defense, how on Earth is that perfect. Ban him again for trolling with lies. I see Dumbo McClain is lying again. There was no ban. AND, the EXACT words said, "JT is a perfect fit for for URBAN MEYER'S SPREAD READ OPTION OFFENSE. Dumbo McClain is being stupid again. It takes more than one of the 11 players on offense to "put up points". Due to horrendous play by Ohio State's O-line against the National Champion Clemson's "mediocre" defense, after one 64 yard carry, Ohio State rushed for 24 yards on 22 carries.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 1:15:40 GMT -5
What do you think Urban is going to say? It is his player, he is going to defend him. Sports guru's from around the nation have judged J.T and its not real positive. He doesn't win the big games that matter. He was abysmal as the season went on last year. He is only good against mediocre teams. Yes OSU beat OU at OU, but ill use the Will Trollmore quote "JT just chucked balls up in the endzone and the WR's made the grabs, there was no skill in what JT did". dummygunn, Urban has 100 players, Urban doesn't publicly debase any of his players. You're just making up BS again. Sports guru's[sic] voted JT as the 2016 First String All-Big Ten QB. Sports guru's[sic] voted JT as THE BEST PLAYER in the Big Ten in 2016. How can an "abysmal" player win those awards?? EXPLAIN YOURSELF There are 10 coaches and 100 players on a TEAM. It is stupid to say that only one of those 110 people is SOLELY responsible for not winning a football game. Surely you aren't so doltish to say that the 26 games that Ohio State won when JT was the stater were ALL against "mediocre" teams. To prove how stupid that is. With JT the starting QB, Ohio State beat #7, #12, #8, #14, #8, #9, and #3 ranked teams and Michigan 3 times. LIAR, JT's school record 69 TD passes were thrown from all over the field. I never used "chucked up". There must be A LOT of skill involved when you break the old Ohio State TD passes record by 11 passes in 2 1/2 seasons with another season to play. You just won a brown ribbon for the most inaccurate post, with the most BS and lies in the history of this site.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 5:50:18 GMT -5
"JT is garbage." I see we're turning up the volume on the vitriolic rhetoric...lol The only opinions that truly matter are those shared by Urban Meyer, Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day.You can quote me on this: Expect "Noodle Arm" or "Garbage Man" to be in New York for the Heisman presentation, barring injury.
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 4, 2017 7:09:48 GMT -5
Wow JT is great at throwing, the local troll has convinced me. 69 td passes. wowzers, schnowzers. I think JT is going to go #1 in the draft because Trollmore has convinced me JT can make all the throws and doesn't have a noodle arm. ^^^^ PURE SARCASM JT is a noodle arm, hold on to the ball too long, BALL HOG. That's why no NFL team wants him and why he had to come back to Ohio State for a 5th year even though you are allowed to go pro after 3 years. ------------------------------------------------ Ban Trollmore for making up more lies. Actual facts vs Clemson www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400876108Samuel - 6 carries, 67 yards, 11.2 ypc Weber - 5 carries, 24 yards, 4.8 ypc Ball Hog JT 'Noodle Arm' Barrett - 11 carries, -2 yards, -0.2 ypc One Team carry for -1 yards, -1 ypc TEAM OVERALL - 23 carries, 88 yards If JT 'Noodle Arm' Barrett wasn't such a BALL HOG then maybe Ohio State could have ran all over Clemson, but the BALL HOG kept hogging the ball and losing yards Then his Noodle arm threw for 127 yards on 33 attempts, a pathetic 3.8 yards per attempt ^^^^ Those are the facts Trollmore says OSU carried it 24 times for 22 yards - He's lying. BAN that Troll again. 2 bans in a week for Troll lying. Not a good look Trollmore.
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 4, 2017 7:18:47 GMT -5
One more thing for Trollmore, who will be banned here shortly for Troll lying.
Clemson's starting RB in that game averaged 4.7 ypc OSU's starting RB in that game averaged 4.8 ypc
Watson - the #12 pick in the NFL draft who isn't a ball hog, and doesn't have a noodle arm actually gave his RB the ball. Clemson's RB had 18 carries - Watson shared the ball Ohio State's RB had 5 carries - Ball Hog, Noodle Arm JT Barrett didn't share the ball
Ball Hog, Noodle Arm JT Barrett also cost us the MSU game in 2015 costing OSU a National Championship by being a ball hog and carrying the ball more times than Zeke. JT wouldn't give Zeke the ball and kept calling his own #.
Cardale gave the ball to Zeke. Cardale gave the ball to his receivers DEEP down the field
Thank you Cardale Jones for that National Championship. Thank you Craig Krenzel for throwing it DEEP on 4th and 4 vs Purdue and that National Championship you brought to OSU in 2002.
Ball Hog JT Noodle Arm Barrett doesn't throw it deep and will never be an elite winner
JT Barrett = 0-3 at winning a Big Ten Title as the starting QB. Cardale Jones = 1 for 1 at winning a Big Ten Title as the starting QB - (59-0 to boot) Thank you Cardale
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 12:37:09 GMT -5
More ignorance shown by Dumbo McClain Yard/carry DOES NOT tell the story of the FAILURE of the OSU O-line in the Clemson game. OSU had one run of 64 yards, they gained a TOTAL of 24 yards on the other 22 rusher. ALSO the O-line allowed 3 sacks. The Ohio State defense ALLOWED Clemson to rush for 232 yards. The Ohio State O-line got 88 yards rushing against Clemson's "mediocre" defense. Only a dunce would give COMPLETE blame to 1 player out of 100 players and 10 coaches on a TEAM. Dumbo the LIAR. Barrett had 11 carries, 3 of which were sacks, so he actually only rushed the ball 8 times. Watson ran the ball FIFTEEN times, LIAR. Per Dumbo's criteria Watson is TWICE the "hog ball". It took MORE than just Watson to win the game, it took a TEAM of 100 players and 10 coaches. Dumbo, Cardale "gave the ball to Zeke', because ALL read option plays, ALL run option plays and ALL run pass option players were taken out of the play book with Cardale playing QB. They tried a few QB sweeps with Cardale and none of them gained anything. The only successful runs by Cardale were runs up the middle when pass protection broke down. Dumbo either has a poor memory or is LYING again. "Deep down the field" AND near the sideline were the ONLY pass plays Cardale was allowed to throw, the other 90% of pass plays were taken out of the play book when Cardale was the QB. Coaches were scared to death Cardale would throw multiple INTs and fumble the ball if 75% of the plays weren't taken away from him. Thank you Devin Smith for making great catches when closely covered, catching several of Cardale's "down the field" jump ball passes. Thank you 100 players and coaching staff for winning a National Championship. Cardale WAS NOT the ONLY reason Ohio State won it. NO SINGLE PLAYER is ever the reason that a TEAM wins a game. That is just as stupid as blaming ONE player out of 100 players and 10 coaches on a TEAM for a loss. Dumbo is so ignorant. Craig Krenzel's one pass and a GREAT over the shoulder catch by Michael Jenkins, was not THE reason Ohio State beat an average Purdue team. Since he has a poor memory or is a teeny and not around when that game was played and what REALLY happened in that game, he should take some time and revisit the replay of the ENTIRE game. Krenzel and the offense made A LOT of mistakes and bad plays in that game to put the TEAM in the position it was at the end of the game. If the offense had played just above average the entire game they would have been up by 2 TDs late in the game. Dumbo is always making up BS and is clueless when it comes to reality. THANK YOU Zeke and the entire TEAM and coaching staff for the National Championship. In 3 games Zeke ran for 697 yards and EIGHT TDs. Cardale WAS NOT the sole reason for winning those 3 games. FYI, against Alabama Cardale only completed 51% of his passes. Except for one 43 yard pass, Cardale completions averaged 11 yards/catch. Cardale was not completing passes and was not completing passes down field. THE TRUTH, Zeke carried the load in the Alabama game. Cardale was only allowed to throw the ball near the side line and 75% of the playbook was eliminated for him to play QB in those 3 games. Cardale was on a very short leash in those games. Cardale was a square peg in the round hole of Urban's offense. THE TRUTH, THE FACTS! Dumb, Dumb Dumbo is one of the few weirdo Ohio State fans who thinks Ohio State should have lost ZERO games the past 3 years and won 3 National Championships in a row. AND thinks only one player on a TEAM of 100 players and 10 coaches is the SOLE reason for the 4 losses the past 3 years. That is embarrassing for even a Dumbo. Tell us Dumbo, how did a "hog ball noodle arm" get voted First Team All Big Ten QB AND ALSO the BEST Player In The Big Ten in 2016?? ANSWER THE QUESTION or lose even more respect.
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Post by tommygunn on May 4, 2017 12:54:25 GMT -5
JT is garbage. No NC win with JT in there. That is for certain.
Remember WF, you have to cup the balls when giving JT a BJ.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 13:17:42 GMT -5
Wow JT is great at throwing, the local troll has convinced me. 69 td passes. wowzers, schnowzers. I think JT is going to go #1 in the draft because Trollmore has convinced me JT can make all the throws and doesn't have a noodle arm. ^^^^ PURE SARCASM JT is a noodle arm, hold on to the ball too long, BALL HOG. That's why no NFL team wants him and why he had to come back to Ohio State for a 5th year even though you are allowed to go pro after 3 years. ------------------------------------------------ Ban Trollmore for making up more lies. Actual facts vs Clemson www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400876108Samuel - 6 carries, 67 yards, 11.2 ypc Weber - 5 carries, 24 yards, 4.8 ypc Ball Hog JT 'Noodle Arm' Barrett - 11 carries, -2 yards, -0.2 ypc One Team carry for -1 yards, -1 ypc TEAM OVERALL - 23 carries, 88 yards If JT 'Noodle Arm' Barrett wasn't such a BALL HOG then maybe Ohio State could have ran all over Clemson, but the BALL HOG kept hogging the ball and losing yards Then his Noodle arm threw for 127 yards on 33 attempts, a pathetic 3.8 yards per attempt ^^^^ Those are the facts Trollmore says OSU carried it 24 times for 22 yards - He's lying. BAN that Troll again. 2 bans in a week for Troll lying. Not a good look Trollmore. Dumbo further proves his ignorance in regards to Urban Meyer's Spread Read Option Run First offense. NONE of the QB's Urban recruits will ever go high in the draft, if drafted at all. His offense will keep that from happening. REMEMBER what happened to Tebow in the NFL. The NFL will not be fooled again by the system QB of Urban Meyer's offense. Dumbo is THE liar or lacks the intellect to understand what was REALLY said. This..."Except for one 64 yard run, the other 22 running plays gained 24 yards." THE TRUTH! That is LOUSY O-line play. Poor offensive line play also led to 3 sacks, reducing yards gained rushing AND showing that JT only "hogged" the ball 8 times out of the TEAM's 23 rushes. If you can't run the ball successfully in Urban's SPREAD READ OPTION OFFENSE the passing game will not be successful. AGAIN, how did a "hog ball noodle arm" get voted First Team All Big Ten QB AND ALSO The Best Player In The Big Ten in 2016?? EXPLAIN your lack of knowledge or be further embarrassed.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 13:32:03 GMT -5
JT is garbage. No NC win with JT in there. That is for certain. Remember WF, you have to cup the balls when giving JT a BJ. Don't prove yourself to be as stupid as Dumbo. There are 100 players and 10 coaches on a football TEAM. NEVER in the history of football has one player been the SOLE reason for a loss. tinydik just came out of the closet as a member of the LGBTQ community or has the intellect of a 6th grader.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 13:50:23 GMT -5
How can "garbage" be voted First Team All Big Ten QB AND ALSO The Best Player In The Big Ten in 2016?? Explain yourself or be looked at with even more disdain.
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 4, 2017 14:00:05 GMT -5
Dumbo further proves his ignorance in regards to Urban Meyer's Spread Read Option Run First offense. NONE of the QB's Urban recruits will ever go high in the draft, if drafted at all. His offense will keep that from happening. Trollmore, why do you have to lie when you troll? Urban Meyer QB's drafted in the 1st round Alex Smith = 1st Round - #1 pick overall - 2005 draft Tim Tebow = 1st round - #25 pick overall - 2010 draft Cam Newton = 1st round - #1 pick overall - 2011 draft ^^^ All 3 of these QB's have won PLAYOFF games at the NFL level Urban Meyer coached all these guys in college. Cam Newton transferred after a year at Florida when he saw Tim Tebow in his way and knew he'd never beat Tebow out. Urban Meyer QB's get drafted pretty high. JT Barrett has a noodle arm and is a ball hog that's why he won't get drafted. I'm so glad Cardale Jones TRUSTED his teammates and shared the ball. Cardale let Zeke actually carry it instead of the way JT plays and ball hogs it and never lets the RB carry it. Cardale let the WRs go make plays deep down the field, unlike JT who ball hogs it with his noodle arm and won't throw it down field to them.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 15:20:20 GMT -5
Dumbo McClain LIES or proves his ignorance once again.
Alex Smith WAS NOT an Urban Meyer recruit. Tim Tebow was an NFL bust. The NFL was completely fooled by the ultimate system QB in Urban Meyer's Offense. After the fact, no NFL would waste ANY draft choice on Tebow. Cam Newton didn't start a single game for Urban Meyer. THE GREAT Cam Newton was facing expulsion from Florida for being caught cheating multiple times, including 3 times putting his name on other student's papers without those students knowing he did it. If Dumbo had half a brain he would know Newton DID NOT run scared(transfer) from Florida to Auburn. He transferred to Blinn College for a year BEFORE Auburn became the highest bidder to his father for his son's services.
BTW, those QBs you list lost a total of 8 games in College, when they were the starting QB. Who was at fault for those losses?? THE TEAM Dumbo, NOT a single individual. Just as NONE of the wins when those QB's were the starter was singly due to their play.
Dumbo has said A LOT of stupid things on here, but this was the dumbest. It is laughable to suggest Cardale "shared" anything. ALL plays came from the sideline. Cardle DID NOT "share" the ball with Zeke, he was TOLD to hand the ball Zeke, who was MUCH more valuable in the wins. Cardale was not "trusted". He was TOLD who to throw to and where to throw passes, ONLY down field and at the sidelines. Due to the coaches being scared to death of Cardale throwing INTs. Thus Cardale was not allowed to throw 90% of all pass plays in the playbook. Cardale was not "trusted" to change plays at the line of scrimmage, except for Play A vs Play B. The coaches TOLD Cardale who to "share" with.
Dumbo has failed to answer THIS question, because he knows he is STUPID. How could a "noodle arm ball hog" be voted First Team All Big Ten QB AND ALSO The Big Ten's Best Player Of The Year in 2016. ANSWER THE QUESTION liar!
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Post by DrTorch on May 4, 2017 15:52:13 GMT -5
because the Big-10 sucks, Brent Musburger would be 3rd team all big-10 qb
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 4, 2017 16:17:04 GMT -5
because the Big-10 sucks, Brent Musburger would be 3rd team all big-10 qb Over the past 3 years teams Ohio State played were ranked #7 #11, #1, #2, #9, #12, #8 #14, #8, #9, #3, #3
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Post by DrTorch on May 4, 2017 16:39:21 GMT -5
and their qbs all sucked, u urself dogged them all season long
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