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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 11, 2017 20:39:58 GMT -5
same way a kid with an 83 IQ gets voted smartest boy on the shortbus enough with the JT bashing for me tho it's obvious we've made our point, some posters wanna gloss over his warts some don't...i'm of the camp that doesn't but honestly i would love for him to come out this year and make me look like a fool, i'd gladly eat a few servings of crow to watch this offense come alive We all have "warts", my only point has been that JT is not a "noodle arm ball hog" and is not the sole reason for the 4 losses in the past 3 years and it's silly to proffer that Ohio State should currently be on a 42 game winning streak with 3 National Championships. I'm quite sure that one of the top 3 college coaches in the country will play the best QB at his disposal. As opposed to playing a lesser QB, thus purposely losing games.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 11, 2017 20:58:47 GMT -5
I just put a specific member on block. Most on here are willing to accept new data/ideas, weigh that information and possibly change their mind on the subject. I'm looking forward to interacting with people like that and not getting sidetracked by someone that treats a person like a God. Urban is a great coach, he's not infallible. JT played some great QB in 2014, but that was 3 years ago, he hasn't shown much the last 2 years. Carlos Baerga used to be a .300+ hitter for the Indians in the 1990's, then he instantly went down the tubes. Baerga 1992 - .312 Baerga 1993 - .321 Baerga 1994 - .314 Baerga 1995 - .314 Baerga 1996 - .254 Indians trade him. I don't want to be pulled into page after page of sidetracking talk about Baerga being a good hitter and the Indians shouldn't have traded him when recent data says he's a mediocre batter Baerga 1997 - .281 Baerga 1998 - .266 Baerga 1999 - .241 Great trade by the Indians Now with this block feature I can get data/ideas, weigh them and make decisions and not be pulled into a silly sidetracked thread about how great Baerga currently is because didn't you see his highlight film from 1992. We'd all love JT Barrett to be a QB like he was in 2014. But the trend says he will be a middle of the road CFB QB, and that's with 4 & 5 star players all around him. The question is why is he trending down. The best answer is other teams have a lot more film on him and now they are exploiting his weaknesses. You're right, most would, but not you. The vast majority does not agree with you "noodle arm ball hog". Is that what you consider "new data and ideas" Carlos chose to drink way too much and party hard, instead of becoming one of the best 2nd basemen in baseball history. The Indian's management knew, tried to help, Carlos refused the help. His choice. Actually a bad trade. If they traded Carlos after the 1995 season, when the heavy drinking and partying started, can you imagine how much more they could have gotten? Like has been said by only one, the more film on a QB the more is known. Don't kid yourself, everyone in baseball knew about what Carlos was doing. He was like the drunken sailor in every port, when the team went on road trips. No one has noticed the correlation of what has happened since the date when Tom Herman took the head job at Houston? Why is there only one QB in the country that other "teams have more film on"? The REAL question remains unanswered. How can a "noodle arm ball hog" be voted THE BEST Player In The Big Ten for 2016?? Which means THE BEST player out of all 308 starters in the Big Ten in 2016.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 11, 2017 21:19:24 GMT -5
Gee, I wonder who that block might be.....lol I fully understand your skepticism concerning J.T., but I think we will see a resurgence with the OL maturing and improving. Baerga was a dominant hitter in his prime. Usually, the bat is the last to go in most cases and they continue their skills at the plate, serving as DH. Surprised he declined so quickly. Yes, it was a smart trade, but losing Alvaro Espinoza in the trade, an outstading SS was a loss. Receiving Jose Vizcaino and Jeff Kent, who served as trade bait and were out of Indians uniform the same year. Don't blame the Indians loss to Baltimore in the post season on Vizcaino however, he had a hot bat, but didn't get much support. Carlos was 27 when he went from one of the best players in baseball, to an average player. It had nothing to do with his age It was ALL about the bad life choices of a multi-millionaire athlete.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 11, 2017 21:49:49 GMT -5
Good luck with that. There has been many topics that we all share a common interest and some great discussions ensued, but what becomes very problematic is the inability to be civil with one another. I have used the blocking feature one time as well, but not for any of the posters who have been using this site in recent history. No luck is needed, I have accepted the reality that some members have issues. They must insult others and spin their responses to try and show they are superior in knowledge and comprehension. Others like myself have taken some enjoyment in conversing with a member like this but I grew tired of the insults, bored with the lack of depth and became exhausted with the long boring posts. So I blocked and now I enjoy this site once again. Most of us did not join this site to argue we are the smartest person. We joined because we enjoy sports and talking about them. The blocking feature has let me do that again. Sorry for being off topic. Go BUCKS! I hope JT has a tremendous season but he has not proven to me that I can expect it. Not true. He changed his screen name and stopped reading posts when two things happened that he could not deal with and refused to be truthful about. The first, was when Lex played at Ontario and their student section made a large illegal sign and several members tried to deliver it to the Ontario student section during the play of the game. They were stopped twice, once by the police and once by an Ontario administrator. They were called into the principal's office the next school day with the illegal sign. scooty said he knew what the sign said and it was no big deal. I asked over and over and over that since he knew what THE sign said, which he said was "no big deal", to tell us what it said. He refused to answer. The second, was after the Wooster at Lex basketball game. When the melee that occurred appeared on TV, the internet and written about all over the country. I told him I heard from a VERY reliable source that a specific father of one of the Lex players was at fault. scooty as much as called me a liar and that he KNEW this father WAS NOT involved. The Lex police viewed every available cell phone video. Interviewed dozens of people. Both schools investigated, the OCC League Commissioner was involved. A month later their report came out which said not only was the person I said was involved, WAS involved. But also 2 other family members were instigators and all three were charged with a misdemeanor and banned, if I remember correctly, from 10 games. That was when and he changed his screen name and stopped reading all posts.
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Post by 4 on May 11, 2017 22:13:06 GMT -5
Haven't seen scooter on here. Is he still ?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 11, 2017 22:41:13 GMT -5
Haven't seen scooter on here. Is he still ? scooter morphed into Dude, as explained above.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 4:49:29 GMT -5
I just put a specific member on block. Most on here are willing to accept new data/ideas, weigh that information and possibly change their mind on the subject. Gee, I wonder who that block might be..... Many would only need one guess.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on May 12, 2017 7:16:52 GMT -5
Note to Fillmore:
Please stop following Rambo McClain around and posting the "How can a "noodle arm ball hog" be voted THE BEST Player In The Big Ten in 2016" quote in every thread he posts in. These posts will be deleted.
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Post by tommygunn on May 15, 2017 7:26:25 GMT -5
Fillmore is a douche for doing that.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by sportsjock on May 15, 2017 13:53:41 GMT -5
Enough already..... You want to talk Ohio State football, let's hear it, otherwise, cut the childishness.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 15, 2017 14:09:00 GMT -5
Enough already..... You want to talk Ohio State football, let's hear it, otherwise, cut the childishness. Seems a few "children" are averse to a relevant query being acknowledged.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 15, 2017 14:18:12 GMT -5
Fillmore is a gentleman and a scholar Fixed it for you
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 14:30:16 GMT -5
Enough already..... You want to talk Ohio State football, let's hear it, otherwise, cut the childishness. What is the benefit for getting into the OSU camp early? And does it depend on your position? (speaking of high school seniors graduating early)
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Post by sportsjock on May 15, 2017 16:03:39 GMT -5
Enough already..... You want to talk Ohio State football, let's hear it, otherwise, cut the childishness. What is the benefit for getting into the OSU camp early? And does it depend on your position? (speaking of high school seniors graduating early) I see a similar parallel of benefits as with high school spring football. Kids get an early entry into the playbook and all the mental aspects of the game. Less likely to look like deer in headlights come regular season camp.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 6:59:19 GMT -5
Does position matter?
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Post by sportsjock on May 16, 2017 7:42:12 GMT -5
I'm sure it doesn't, but I would guess it would have increased significance for a skill position player.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 16, 2017 10:08:04 GMT -5
What is the benefit for getting into the OSU camp early? And does it depend on your position? (speaking of high school seniors graduating early) I see a similar parallel of benefits as with high school spring football. Kids get an early entry into the playbook and all the mental aspects of the game. Less likely to look like deer in headlights come regular season camp. They also get an early entry into Ohio State academics. It sounds like Lexington's Cade Stover could be Ohio State's first commitment for the 2019 recruiting class. I forget which, but one source is predicting he should be a 5* by the time he's a Senior. Some schools don't allow students to graduate early. Would Stover be an early enrollee?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 10:42:00 GMT -5
I'm sure it doesn't, but I would guess it would have increased significance for a skill position player. I have not seen many leave high school early but wonder if those that do leave are because they are single sport athletes and are spending their time getting ready for the next football season anyway.
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Post by sportsjock on May 16, 2017 10:50:29 GMT -5
I see a similar parallel of benefits as with high school spring football. Kids get an early entry into the playbook and all the mental aspects of the game. Less likely to look like deer in headlights come regular season camp. They also get an early entry into Ohio State academics. It sounds like Lexington's Cade Stover could be Ohio State's first commitment for the 2019 recruiting class. I forget which, but one source is predicting he should be a 5* by the time he's a Senior. Some schools don't allow students to graduate early. Would Stover be an early enrollee? Cade Stover would be a great early commit for 019 class. He said after talking with Bill Nelson, OSU is not set on where he will end up....LB or DE. At 6-5, makes for a rangy LB and also speaks to his mobility. I like the fact that Urban prefers smart players with good academics. That lessens the chances for other problems that are so prevalent these days.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Sept 10, 2017 9:47:46 GMT -5
Freshman Barrett > Current Barrett JT through the years 87.1 ADJ QBR - Freshman 76.9 ADJ QBR - Sophomore 68.0 ADJ QBR - Junior How Bad will he be this year? JT in his last 3 games 38.1 ADJ QBR vs Mich St 69.4 ADJ QBR vs Michigan 39.9 ADJ QBR vs Clemson DeShaun Watson who we want our QB to be like had a: 93.4 ADJ QBR in ACC Champ game vs VT 91.8 ADJ QBR in Fiesta Bowl vs Ohio State 92.4 ADJ QBR in NC Game vs Alabama Great post from April. Well lets add on The first thing to add on is the IV to JT Barrett. Now he goes by JT Barrett IV Next lets add on his senior year 87.1 ADJ QBR - Freshman 76.9 ADJ QBR - Sophomore 68.0 ADJ QBR - Junior 58.5 ADJ QBR - Senior Now let's add 2 more games to make it 5 JTIV in his last 5 games 38.1 ADJ QBR vs Mich St 69.4 ADJ QBR vs Michigan 39.9 ADJ QBR vs Clemson 78.2 ADJ QBR vs Indiana 35.6 ADJ QBR vs Oklahoma Compare JTIV to DeShaun Watson when Watson was playing POSTSEASON games, not lowly Indiana and 3-9 Mich State. JTIV has regressed since his freshman year. He stinks now. Baker Mayfield has PROGRESSED not regressed his his career 56.8 ADJ QBR - Freshman 80.4 ADJ QBR - Sophomore 91.8 ADJ QBR - Junior 94.3 ADJ QBR - Senior ^^^ That's how a career is supposed to go, JTIV has the reverse and gets to keep his job because he played well as a freshman? Well he stinks now. Baker Mayfield's last 5 games 94.5 ADJ QBR vs West Virginia 96.6 ADJ QBR vs Oklahoma State 97.8 ADJ QBR vs Auburn - Sugar Bowl 95.3 ADJ QBR vs UTEP 93.8 ADJ QBR vs Ohio State Baker Mayfield rolled with a bunch of freshman last night. His stud TE got hurt and a true freshman replaced him. That true freshman dropped a sure TD pass from Mayfield. Mayfield shrugged it off and still lit up OSU. Amazing how every team has so many stud wr's but OSU with 4 & 5 star wr's can't get open? Hmm, maybe it's JTIV that doesn't know how to throw the ball or look to see who's open that is the problem.
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