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Post by sportsjock on May 19, 2017 9:25:54 GMT -5
I listened to an elongated discussion on ESPN radio a few weeks ago and the topic of discussion was the future for Oklahoma and Texas. Barry Switzer was among the panelists and being ESPN, the total discussion was focused on the SEC and all agreed it wasn't a matter of will those two schools jump to the SEC, but when. Conspicuously, the B1G was never mentioned.
Bucknuts has started a discussion of potential expansion of the Big Ten, pros & cons. My thoughts are, the B1G needs to go after Texas & Oklahoma loud and hard, because the alternative of an even more dominant SEC is not good for the B1G.
What are your thoughts on all this?
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Post by Birdman on May 25, 2017 14:22:05 GMT -5
First off, I wish they would never had picked up Maryland or Rutgers, When I think of the BIG10 and I do really only think football minded, they didn't give them a boost for that area.
I would love to see those two powerhouse schools join, they would make the argument for the best conference a even better discussion. I don't know the legitimate chances of those schools coming but I think it would be an advantageous one for both programs. I was hoping Louisville and West Virginia would have came to the BIG10 considering there proximity to the other schools.
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Post by DrTorch on May 25, 2017 16:13:21 GMT -5
we've had this discussion before and an original poster NorCal eloquently pointed out that the Big-10 is first and foremost an academic institution and any member school would have to parallel the Big-10 academically 1st
i'm not sure TEX and OKL (and i'm being kind by saying i'm not sure) are a good fit in that regard, which is the one regard that matters most
it would make the most sense to split the nation into 3 regions, North, South, and West, have (1) team represent each region in a playoff with (1) wild card...but as far as Big-10 expansion goes there is no way OKL will ever be a Big-10 member in it's current state...West Virginia is much closer and a good fit sports wise, but it's the academics that keep them out
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Post by sportsjock on May 25, 2017 19:14:28 GMT -5
First off, I wish they would never had picked up Maryland or Rutgers, When I think of the BIG10 and I do really only think football minded, they didn't give them a boost for that area. I would love to see those two powerhouse schools join, they would make the argument for the best conference a even better discussion. I don't know the legitimate chances of those schools coming but I think it would be an advantageous one for both programs. I was hoping Louisville and West Virginia would have came to the BIG10 considering there proximity to the other schools. I think Oklahoma is a real solid possibility, because rivals as they are, there is a lot of mutual respect with the Cornhuskers and many all-time great battles between the two over the years. Nebraska may be the draw to pull them into the B1G. Texas has some baggage with the huge money they generate and the unwillingness to share revenues as they do in the Big Ten. Not sure on the SEC formula. It still irks me that the B1G let Missouri slip to the SEC, when any kind of overture whatsoever could have pulled them our way. Geographically, Missouri was a perfect fit and their football program will return to prominence one day soon. Maryland is making the necessary moves to elevate the football program and the BB program is solid. Rutgers is one to be patient on, IMO.
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Post by sportsjock on May 25, 2017 19:23:09 GMT -5
we've had this discussion before and an original poster NorCal eloquently pointed out that the Big-10 is first and foremost an academic institution and any member school would have to parallel the Big-10 academically 1st i'm not sure TEX and OKL (and i'm being kind by saying i'm not sure) are a good fit in that regard, which is the one regard that matters most it would make the most sense to split the nation into 3 regions, North, South, and West, have (1) team represent each region in a playoff with (1) wild card...but as far as Big-10 expansion goes there is no way OKL will ever be a Big-10 member in it's current state...West Virginia is much closer and a good fit sports wise, but it's the academics that keep them out I thought I heard every possible suggestion on the football playoff formula, this one is quite novel! Would the NCAA have to redraw the districts every few years for balance? I agree on the academics element for WVU and perhaps why they weren't in the conference a long time ago, Louisville is probably in the same boat.
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Post by Rambo McClain on May 25, 2017 19:36:30 GMT -5
2 rules that need to be met 1 - Neither school borders a State with a current Big Ten member. Kansas, Kansas State or Missouri would have to be added before Oklahoma can join. Texas would need Oklahoma to join before it can 2 - Be a member of the Association of American Universities (AAU) #2 is in question now since Nebraska got kicked out of the AAU. Nebraska was a member from 1909-2011, and got accepted by the Big Ten in 2010. So 13 of the 14 are currently members Schools that border a Big Ten State and are AAU members Virginia Missouri Pittsburgh Kansas Texas has been a AAU member since 1929 Oklahoma is not a member If the Big Ten goes to 16 the most likely next 2 would be Virginia and UNC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_UniversitiesClick the link and scroll down for a USA map of members of the AAU
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Post by DrTorch on May 26, 2017 10:04:28 GMT -5
good post
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Post by DrTorch on May 26, 2017 10:05:01 GMT -5
i'd love to make a road trip to Chapel Hill
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Post by sportsjock on May 26, 2017 11:05:43 GMT -5
Good post indeed. I wasn't aware of the border state rule. In todays expanding super conference climate, sounds a bit archaic. I think that it is rather restrictive and certainly narrows the options. On the other hand, I would think, with the general approval of the Big Ten commissioners, that criteria could be waved.
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