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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2018 22:58:59 GMT -5
So it seems that Lexington, in addition to West Holmes voted NO on every vote yesterday as well. Medina Buckeye was the possible 8th member. The expansion ideas were all voted down by WH and Lex. Guess they are waiting for CF to re-consider! scootyDude conveniently said NOTHING about Lex voting no on every proposal. He has continually put the blame solely on the back of West Holmes.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jan 26, 2018 0:25:14 GMT -5
I think you may be correct dfa. Plus Ontario wants nothing to do with a league and half of the teams mentioned. When Delaware Hayes, Buckeye Buckeye Valley, Mount Vernon and Big Walnut put something together, other schools will be looking for options. More untruths from scootyDude. Ontario plays or has played 6 of 8 of the schools mentioned. Ontario and others don't trust the OHC. Ontario, Shelby, Clear Fork and Galion were interested when the OHC said they would put together an East/West two Division league. Failure, voted down by existing members. An embarrassment for those schools to put their trust in the OCC schools. Now Lex is voting everything down? Even more of a reason for lack of trust. Mt.Vernon wants to go east and south. Big Walnut is growing so fast they're interest is staying with the Ohio Central. Delaware Hayes?? At 633 boys in the top 3 grades they're double the size of Buckeye Valley. The only interest to join that group would be DI schools from Central Ohio. Willard, I taught I heard that Buckeye Valley is really growing now. I don't know what their count is on boys right now but I have heard that Delaware is growing by leaps and bounds that the city limits are if not now approaching BV's school district. Maybe not now but close they might be coming close to those numbers to be mention with Delaware in the same league. Who knows but that's what I am hearing old buddy.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 26, 2018 2:02:50 GMT -5
I've heard the same, but I doubt they're ever be much more than half of Delaware Hayes. Heck Delaware is almost a part of Columbus now. Just going by BV's 286 vs D. Hayes 633.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jan 26, 2018 7:22:13 GMT -5
I've heard the same, but I doubt they're ever be much more than half of Delaware Hayes. Heck Delaware is almost a part of Columbus now. Just going by BV's 286 vs D. Hayes 633. Willard, With BV's enrollment at 286, even with Delaware's city limits growing, the most I would see BV's enrollment maybe only could be at 386 to 430's to where Delaware could go as high as 700's to low 800's. Who knows what might happen in maybe 10 years from now.
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Post by bigox on Jan 26, 2018 7:45:24 GMT -5
I've heard the same, but I doubt they're ever be much more than half of Delaware Hayes. Heck Delaware is almost a part of Columbus now. Just going by BV's 286 vs D. Hayes 633. Willard, With BV's enrollment at 286, even with Delaware's city limits growing, the most I would see BV's enrollment maybe only could be at 386 to 430's to where Delaware could go as high as 700's to low 800's. Who knows what might happen in maybe 10 years from now. In 2020 Delaware schools are on track to start building 2 k-8 buildings and a second high school in 2024 on the south side of the city off of 23. They are ranked 4th in the nation in rate of growth in the last five years for city's of their population. Two Delaware schools in the next ten years is the city plan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 8:27:10 GMT -5
More untruths from scootyDude. Ontario plays or has played 6 of 8 of the schools mentioned. Ontario and others don't trust the OHC. Ontario, Shelby, Clear Fork and Galion were interested when the OHC said they would put together an East/West two Division league. Failure, voted down by existing members. An embarrassment for those schools to put their trust in the OCC schools. Now Lex is voting everything down? Even more of a reason for lack of trust. Mt.Vernon wants to go east and south. Big Walnut is growing so fast they're interest is staying with the Ohio Central. Delaware Hayes?? At 633 boys in the top 3 grades they're double the size of Buckeye Valley. The only interest to join that group would be DI schools from Central Ohio. Willard, I taught I heard that Buckeye Valley is really growing now. I don't know what their count is on boys right now but I have heard that Delaware is growing by leaps and bounds that the city limits are if not now approaching BV's school district. Maybe not now but close they might be coming close to those numbers to be mention with Delaware in the same league. Who knows but that's what I am hearing old buddy. dfa, please help your buddy understand what I said. The truth is Ontario has no interest in the LEAGUE, not playing in a game. Also, ask him to stop being a hater, multiple schools voted down every option that was presented. BV is being discussed to leave the MOAC and Hayes is listening to possibilities but BW has their own plan. So for the time being the OCC is 7 but there is a lot of ta;ling going on behind the scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 8:30:22 GMT -5
Willard, With BV's enrollment at 286, even with Delaware's city limits growing, the most I would see BV's enrollment maybe only could be at 386 to 430's to where Delaware could go as high as 700's to low 800's. Who knows what might happen in maybe 10 years from now. In 2020 Delaware schools are on track to start building 2 k-8 buildings and a second high school in 2024 on the south side of the city off of 23. They are ranked 4th in the nation in rate of growth in the last five years for city's of their population. Two Delaware schools in the next ten years is the city plan. ox, I do not see a league forming with Richland county schools and Delaware Hayes. At this time some schools being mentioned are only in the talks becasue of the desire to get back to 8 schools. Not because they actually make sense for every current OCC team.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 26, 2018 10:15:02 GMT -5
So it seems that Lexington, in addition to West Holmes voted NO on every vote yesterday as well. Medina Buckeye was the possible 8th member. The expansion ideas were all voted down by WH and Lex. Guess they are waiting for CF to re-consider! Check your sources, Mansfield voted NO on adding the 8th team. Only after a certain supt called another supt who called a principal who told the AD to do so! How's that for the facts? Who said anything about Delaware Hayes? Ashland, Madison, Senior, Lex, Mt. Vernon, Harding, BW, and BV would be fine. CF, Shelby, Ontario, Galion, Pleasant, Upper, RV, Highland would be fine.
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Post by bigox on Jan 26, 2018 10:39:41 GMT -5
In 2020 Delaware schools are on track to start building 2 k-8 buildings and a second high school in 2024 on the south side of the city off of 23. They are ranked 4th in the nation in rate of growth in the last five years for city's of their population. Two Delaware schools in the next ten years is the city plan. ox, I do not see a league forming with Richland county schools and Delaware Hayes. At this time some schools being mentioned are only in the talks becasue of the desire to get back to 8 schools. Not because they actually make sense for every current OCC team. I was just pointing out Delaware's growth to the region. I would expect the new h.s. to join the same league as Hayes. But you never know what can happen in 7 years or so. Might not be an OCC to join the way conferences are changing these days.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 26, 2018 12:11:53 GMT -5
With another Olentangy HS (Berlin) opening next year and Delaware looking at one for the future, that area could be 4 Olentangys, 2 Delawares, Big Walnut, and Marysville somewhere down the road.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 12:26:25 GMT -5
Check your sources, Mansfield voted NO on adding the 8th team. Only after a certain supt called another supt who called a principal who told the AD to do so! How's that for the facts? Who said anything about Delaware Hayes? Ashland, Madison, Senior, Lex, Mt. Vernon, Harding, BW, and BV would be fine. CF, Shelby, Ontario, Galion, Pleasant, Upper, RV, Highland would be fine. Slightly off, as it was the principal(who was late to the meeting) who made the change to the AD's vote(which was made without any authority) after he contacted HIS supt. But at least we cleared up that Mansfield was also a school that voted NO for adding the 8th team. Of the 16 schools you mentioned, a few are not looking to make a change at all. BW has not interest in traveling north for a league. Upper and Sparta Highland are extremely happy with present spots.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 12:27:21 GMT -5
ox, I do not see a league forming with Richland county schools and Delaware Hayes. At this time some schools being mentioned are only in the talks becasue of the desire to get back to 8 schools. Not because they actually make sense for every current OCC team. I was just pointing out Delaware's growth to the region. I would expect the new h.s. to join the same league as Hayes. But you never know what can happen in 7 years or so. Might not be an OCC to join the way conferences are changing these days. I would agree with your points about the Delaware growth.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Jan 26, 2018 13:52:55 GMT -5
All I can say is the powers that be had better wake up or Mansfield Sr., Lexington. Madison and Ashland may be on there own. Like has been said before Wooster and West Holmes may head east. Mount Vernon may head back south. Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork have been bull headed about joining up with the OCC schools. I think a great league could be as follows: (Theoretically speaking of course) 1. Mansfield Sr, 2, Madison. 3. Lexington 4. Ashland 5. Ontario 6. Mt. Vernon 7. Shelby 8. Clear fork
If you wanted to go to 10 - 12 teams then look at Wooster, Lodi Cloverleaf, Big Walnut, or Medina Buckeye and Maybe Sparta Highland. Marion Harding.
Sure this is about competitive balance, but isn't it also about larger gates an travel. I saw the North Union vs Ontario game the other night on TV and there were mayb 60 people on the North Union side. (I know they're leaving the MOAC)but would a conference home game with Senior high that fills the gym make more sense. If any ones worried about football Well D-IV Shelby might not have had a running clock clock in every game but probably still would have rolled to 10-0 and may have been even better prepared for Steubenville. Even a team as good as D-IV Clear Fork may have went 7-3 and made the Playoffs. Point being good competition good gates and decent travel would lead to success for all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 14:08:01 GMT -5
All I can say is the powers that be had better wake up or Mansfield Sr., Lexington. Madison and Ashland may be on there own. Like has been said before Wooster and West Holmes may head east. Mount Vernon may head back south. Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork have been bull headed about joining up with the OCC schools. I think a great league could be as follows: (Theoretically speaking of course) 1. Mansfield Sr, 2, Madison. 3. Lexington 4. Ashland 5. Ontario 6. Mt. Vernon 7. Shelby 8. Clear fork I would drop Mount Vernon from you list and add in Galion to be more local and please the smaller schools on the list. I also modified your list just a bit adding the schools male enrollment figures. 1. Ashland 4082, Madison 372 3. Mansfield 332- and shrinking4. Lexington 301- and shrinking5. Ontario 248- and growing 6. Shelby 2487. Clear Fork 225- and growing8. Galion 211
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 26, 2018 16:05:45 GMT -5
Only if football and boys basketball loses money due to travel expenses and ticket sales.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jan 27, 2018 1:33:37 GMT -5
Willard, With BV's enrollment at 286, even with Delaware's city limits growing, the most I would see BV's enrollment maybe only could be at 386 to 430's to where Delaware could go as high as 700's to low 800's. Who knows what might happen in maybe 10 years from now. In 2020 Delaware schools are on track to start building 2 k-8 buildings and a second high school in 2024 on the south side of the city off of 23. They are ranked 4th in the nation in rate of growth in the last five years for city's of their population. Two Delaware schools in the next ten years is the city plan. Ox, That is one thing that I did not know. I knew Delaware was one of the fastest growing cities but I haven't heard that they was looking at starting another school. I wonder what they will name this new school. I think I just found a name for it, Delaware Branch Rickey High School. That's got a nice ring to it. Their mascot could Dodgers. How does that sound to you.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jan 27, 2018 1:48:16 GMT -5
Willard, I taught I heard that Buckeye Valley is really growing now. I don't know what their count is on boys right now but I have heard that Delaware is growing by leaps and bounds that the city limits are if not now approaching BV's school district. Maybe not now but close they might be coming close to those numbers to be mention with Delaware in the same league. Who knows but that's what I am hearing old buddy. dfa, please help your buddy understand what I said. The truth is Ontario has no interest in the LEAGUE, not playing in a game. Also, ask him to stop being a hater, multiple schools voted down every option that was presented. BV is being discussed to leave the MOAC and Hayes is listening to possibilities but BW has their own plan. So for the time being the OCC is 7 but there is a lot of ta;ling going on behind the scenes. Dude, I will try but you know how he is, he has his opinion and he sticks to it. Sometimes that is good and sometimes it's not. When you two get into your not going to be moved I start thinking of some of these old western movies where you are down one end of Main St. and Willard is down the other end and it's HIGH NOON and both of you start walking toward each other then when you both get close enough you stop and both of you whip out your insults book and at it and the best man wins. Call me silly but that's how I see it. Willard can you PM me please.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 7:53:14 GMT -5
I am not a person for insults, but sometimes special people can bring it out of me. That is why I love the blocking feature.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 27, 2018 9:47:52 GMT -5
Back to basketball, some Madison fans were calling out Stover for out of control behavior and headbutting Ram players. Anyone else see that? Mt Vernon beating Senior at PH was big. Great game to watch and the refs let them play. OCC could end up in a 4 way tie by the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 13:54:20 GMT -5
Heard the Jornell Mann’s torehis ACLor MCL. Did anyone else hear this?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 6:24:51 GMT -5
Mansfield 9-5 7-2 Mt Vernon 11-5 6-2 Lexington 12-4 5-2 Wooster 8-5 5-3 Madison 8-7 3-6 West Holmes 5-9 1-6 Ashland 2-12 1-7
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 28, 2018 16:19:54 GMT -5
Heard the Jornell Mann’s torehis ACLor MCL. Did anyone else hear this? If that's true he should have enrolled early at Minnesota, as the wise were telling him.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 28, 2018 16:33:47 GMT -5
He has an MRI next week. He was feeling better Friday night but probably done for the year. Yes, he should have went to UM early and not because he got hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 12:55:08 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2018 14:42:16 GMT -5
He has an MRI next week. He was feeling better Friday night but probably done for the year. Yes, he should have went to UM early and not because he got hurt. Yup, every semester of a free College education is a blessing. If an athlete on a DIV 1 athletic scholarship, plays his cards right, after his eligibility is up he should have a Masters Degree paid for or very close.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 8:19:34 GMT -5
He has an MRI next week. He was feeling better Friday night but probably done for the year. Yes, he should have went to UM early and not because he got hurt. I hope it does not change anything for him at Minn.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 31, 2018 8:46:55 GMT -5
Very entertaining game last night at Pete Henry between Senior and Dublin Jerome if you like fouls. 56 total fouls called, 27 on Senior and 29 on DJ. Senior won in OT 68-66. Triple header with Toledo Scott on Saturday, with the freshmen starting at 1pm. The 1987-88 Malabar Falcon team that was a Final Four team that year will be recognized at halftime of the varsity game. Coach Steve Miller's club was led by All-Ohio Brian Beauford.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 13:56:40 GMT -5
Very entertaining game last night at Pete Henry between Senior and Dublin Jerome if you like fouls. 56 total fouls called, 27 on Senior and 29 on DJ. Senior won in OT 68-66. Triple header with Toledo Scott on Saturday, with the freshmen starting at 1pm. The 1987-88 Malabar Falcon team that was a Final Four team that year will be recognized at halftime of the varsity game. Coach Steve Miller's club was led by All-Ohio Brian Beauford. Senior with 2 fewer fouls and they won by 2. Refs were in their pocket
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 4:26:45 GMT -5
Very entertaining game last night at Pete Henry between Senior and Dublin Jerome if you like fouls. 56 total fouls called, 27 on Senior and 29 on DJ. Senior won in OT 68-66. Triple header with Toledo Scott on Saturday, with the freshmen starting at 1pm. The 1987-88 Malabar Falcon team that was a Final Four team that year will be recognized at halftime of the varsity game. Coach Steve Miller's club was led by All-Ohio Brian Beauford. Doesn’t Mansfield play Wooster before they play Toledo?
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Post by malabar10 on Feb 2, 2018 9:32:13 GMT -5
Yes, Senior has a triple header with Wooster tonight. Freshmen start at 430pm. Next home game Saturday. On another note, Burtin is done for the year. Addition by subtraction???
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