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Post by Rambo McClain on Aug 3, 2017 5:58:53 GMT -5
I'm amused. The Irish had gangs. The Italian/Sicilians had gangs/crime families. But a mexican gang is a matter of national security. What? You don't know what MS-13 is? Maybe you should get off CNN Fake News and get real news.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Aug 3, 2017 6:05:41 GMT -5
It's pretty idiotic, but what you do really expect from someone who is afraid of losing his job to an unskilled worker than can't even speak English? What? Have you stepped on a college campus? Lots of professors that can barely speak English teaching American youth. I guess Americans just aren't willing to be Professors. The difference between Professors and Construction workers is that the Professors are over here LEGALLY, while the construction workers come here ILLEGALLY. The USA has laws, why can't you Libs comprehend there are consequences to breaking laws. Illegals know they are breaking the law when they cross the border illegally (yes, Hispanics have brains and know right from wrong), they also know when they purchase illegal documentation they are committing an illegal act. You Libs are super racist and think Hispanics are so stupid that they don't know they are breaking laws.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Aug 3, 2017 7:35:11 GMT -5
Libs racist? Oh yeah...don't like the whities and love to screw over the middle aged white guy any chance possible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 8:36:39 GMT -5
It's pretty idiotic, but what you do really expect from someone who is afraid of losing his job to an unskilled worker than can't even speak English? The USA has laws, why can't you Libs comprehend there are consequences to breaking laws. Illegals know they are breaking the law when they cross the border illegally (yes, Hispanics have brains and know right from wrong), they also know when they purchase illegal documentation they are committing an illegal act. You Libs are super racist and think Hispanics are so stupid that they don't know they are breaking laws. You just supported Trump trying to reduce the amount of LEGAL immigrants. So clearly, the problem for you isn't legal vs illegal, it's something else...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 8:39:55 GMT -5
I'm amused. The Irish had gangs. The Italian/Sicilians had gangs/crime families. But a mexican gang is a matter of national security. What? You don't know what MS-13 is? Maybe you should get off CNN Fake News and get real news. Nobody knows what MS-13 is. Do you know why? Because there are only about 10k of them in total. There are more registered sex offenders in one big city than their entire gang. IF, and that's an all capital and bolded IF, you assumed they're all here illegally, that's less than 0.1% of the entire illegal population. Not bad considering how many skin heads make up the white American population.
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 3, 2017 9:45:12 GMT -5
Illegal is illegal. Cannot fault an administration that is enforcing laws now can we.
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Post by galion on Aug 3, 2017 9:55:36 GMT -5
I'm amused. The Irish had gangs. The Italian/Sicilians had gangs/crime families. But a mexican gang is a matter of national security. I guess they are suppressing the price of drugs and putting the hard working American gangs out of business. It's so unfair. I guess if we deported all of the hispanic workers those poor street beggars outside of GAP would rush up to Willard and find employment. Somebody on here keeps trying to bring up slavery to make a point. Interestingly enough, the primary argument against freeing the slaves(outside of blatant racism and ignorance) was that they would all come up north and take the all of the good jobs from the poor white folks. Guess what, it didn't happen and there were more freed slaves then than there are "alleged" illegals now. There are also a heck of a lot more jobs now that there were then. But I hate to interrupt your very carefully thought out arguments with actual facts so carry on. MS-13 needs no apologists on here, especially distorted logic. The growing menace MS-13 has been deemed a terrorist organization, that elevates them above other organized crime syndicates. They commonly resort to heinious torture and mutilation tactics on their victims, to maximize their pain and suffering. World slavery of past centuries has nothing to do with the current dilemma of illegal foreign invaders, swarming across our southern border. First and foremost, build the damn wall! Really? Who deemed them a terrorist organization? Are they flying planes into buildings? Your simple logic amuses me. The main problem here isn't the gang. It's the reason that the gang exists. It exists to provide Americans with their supply of illegal drugs. We create the supply and they fill it by any means necessary. Then, we act all concerned about the violence this causes. However, since most of the atrocities are committed in Central America, South America, and Mexico we pretend that the blood isn't on our hands. The solution to this is really simple. Eliminate the demand. This sure as h e l l isn't an immigration issue.
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Post by galion on Aug 3, 2017 10:04:48 GMT -5
It's pretty idiotic, but what you do really expect from someone who is afraid of losing his job to an unskilled worker than can't even speak English? What? Have you stepped on a college campus? Lots of professors that can barely speak English teaching American youth. I guess Americans just aren't willing to be Professors. The difference between Professors and Construction workers is that the Professors are over here LEGALLY, while the construction workers come here ILLEGALLY. The USA has laws, why can't you Libs comprehend there are consequences to breaking laws. Illegals know they are breaking the law when they cross the border illegally (yes, Hispanics have brains and know right from wrong), they also know when they purchase illegal documentation they are committing an illegal act. You Libs are super racist and think Hispanics are so stupid that they don't know they are breaking laws. Have you ever been on a college campus? There were foreign professors when I was in college back in the 80's/90's what's your point? I guess the issue must be pretty black and white to you when you don't consider them people because "they can barely speak English". Then you want to talk about the atrocities that MS-13 commits as if no gang or crime syndicate in America has ever engaged in this. I understand consequences just fine. I understand the consequences of many of these human beings staying put in 3rd world nations rather than attempting to come here and give their families a better life.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 3, 2017 11:14:58 GMT -5
heinous tactics...like waterboarding?
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Post by 1percenter on Aug 3, 2017 13:33:36 GMT -5
A helpful video about immigration.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 3, 2017 14:35:16 GMT -5
I had an Economic's Prof in college that was from Lebanon. You couldn't understand half of what he was saying. Many in the class dropped it and took the course from another Prof later. Were we racists or xenophobs? Not then, but now we would labeled as one. ESPECIALLY on a college campus.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 3, 2017 16:02:05 GMT -5
Hey we all want secure borders and rule of law and equality, but let's stop acting like we are being invaded by werewolves. Susan Powter would have a word with you. Just because you don't speak Spanish is no reason to turn a human being into refuse.
I mean good gravy, why stop at collecting their tax dollars? Why not round the Godless SOBs up and stick them in forced labor camps? You know, the coyotes get their lick so should the US right?
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 3, 2017 16:05:08 GMT -5
Lol i need to make some more usernames, i feel outnumbered, even tho i'm not.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 4, 2017 7:06:05 GMT -5
Hey, we all want secure borders and rule of law and equality, but let's stop acting like we are being invaded by werewolves. Susan Powter would have a word with you. Just because you don't speak Spanish is no reason to turn a human being into refuse. I mean good gravy, why stop at collecting their tax dollars? Why not round the Godless SOBs up and stick them in forced labor camps? You know, the coyotes get their lick so should the US right? Not really the case. It's no secret, the Democrat liberal base is all for a wide open borders policy and ignoring our nations immigration laws. Werewolves are an imaginary fantasy, illegal foreign invaders is todays reality that effects the nations economy and crime rate. Again, payments under false pretenses doesn't qualify as tax payment and has no connection to any perceived citizenship. Many immigrants have strong religious beliefs, are hard working and honest people wanting a better life for themselves and their families, but going about it in the wrong manner.
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Post by galion on Aug 4, 2017 7:56:31 GMT -5
Again explain why they can't enter under the same rules that your ancestors entered under. Why do we need the "new" laws to begin with? I bet that illegal immigrants don't effect our crime rate even 5 percent. Are there a bunch of Hispanics in Willard's jail? I highly doubt it.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 4, 2017 9:50:53 GMT -5
Again explain why they can't enter under the same rules that your ancestors entered under. Why do we need the "new" laws to begin with? I bet that illegal immigrants don't effect our crime rate even 5 percent. Are there a bunch of Hispanics in Willard's jail? I highly doubt it. Green Cards are temporary visas for all immigrants wishing to enter on a temporary or seasonal basis. They are not exclusive to Hispanics. The proposed rule changes will effect all immigrants, whether they come from Europe, Asia, Africa or Latin America. The avenues for applying for full citizenship is available as it was for our ancestors. If you don't think there is a significant criminal element among illegals entering our country, I don't quite know what to tell you If it is 5%, it is 5% too many......correct?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 10:41:59 GMT -5
Immigration restriction is a lot like unions. It keeps the crappy workers in jobs and excludes the young and the hungry.
I personally would give anyone who passes a background check a 5 year visa to come work. If after 5 years they can show they held employment and were a productive member of society, they get citizenship. During those 5 years they would have to: pay taxes, get a drivers license, insurance (auto and health), etc. I would remove citizenship by being born in the country, and citizenship would be given if your parents are citizens. Any crime above a traffic infraction committed and they're deported.
After putting that in place I would require everyone to carry a national ID card. If you don't have one and the police cannot verify your identity, you are detained until they can do so. If you are in the country without the 5 year visa you get deported as you have skipped the background check and formal process. Yes, I'm sure you'll say this is what we have now, but the difference is, I would let anyone in who can pass a background check and give a lot more legal means to enter the country. Not just a path for the rich Chinese who can invest a million dollars and get citizenship for their kids.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 4, 2017 12:09:37 GMT -5
I wonder what Native Americans think about entering this country illegally. And immigration reform. They would probably be in favor of a wall.
And a time machine.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 4, 2017 12:20:38 GMT -5
I wonder what Native Americans think about entering this country illegally. And immigration reform. They would probably be in favor of a wall. And a time machine. That makes little, if any sense. We're all from some place else, even the American Indians. So, you are opposed to protecting our borders with a wall? Sticking with the status quo, where people are violating our sovereignty, coming across our borders like swarms of rats, unimpeded?
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Post by galion on Aug 4, 2017 12:43:57 GMT -5
And there it is!! "Swarms of rats". Let's see if you can dehumanize them a little more so you don't have to apply the basic christian values towards them that you and the rest of the right like to claim to possess and like to claim that this country is founded on. Violating our sovereignty. Are they taking over parts of this country and forming their own government? Can we be just a bit more over dramatic here?
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 4, 2017 13:54:54 GMT -5
I wonder what Native Americans think about entering this country illegally. And immigration reform. They would probably be in favor of a wall. And a time machine. That makes little, if any sense. We're all from some place else, even the American Indians. So, you are opposed to protecting our borders with a wall? Sticking with the status quo, where people are violating our sovereignty, coming across our borders like swarms of rats, unimpeded? yes i am opposed to something that is not needed an makes no sense and we can't afford and that won't work are you a Free market Capitalist or what kid? you talk out one side of your mouth about this and that but when it comes to the practical application of said mission statements you cave under the threat of vice and crime meanwhile, Wall Street fat-cats pump you so hard you can't even remember that it happened, a classic coping mechanism invading our sovereignty, LOL you fool we invade every sovereign nation on EARTH! can you be this foolish? if you really think a wall is going to protect the borders of this nation you are the biggest tool on the planet a swarm of rats? another -25 humanity you pod live like brothers or die like animals
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 4, 2017 14:43:43 GMT -5
And there it is!! "Swarms of rats". Let's see if you can dehumanize them a little more so you don't have to apply the basic christian values towards them that you and the rest of the right like to claim to possess and like to claim that this country is founded on. Violating our sovereignty. Are they taking over parts of this country and forming their own government? Can we be just a bit more over dramatic here? The Bible is pretty clear and so was Jesus teachings, obey the law. Trying to defend an undeveloped country, who had a fraction of a percent of what inhabits America today is apples to oranges but is always the liberals drum to pound. Take at look at the Indian lands they currently run pretty much under their set of rules and laws. Lol, they are all strung out on drugs and just have not developed much, unless you want to talk about the few who run Indian Casinos. I don't like a stretch of road in my town where its 25. Many think it should be 35, maybe even 45, but if I do 35, or 45, I will get a ticket eventually. Don't like it, but its the law. Bleeding liberals, only want to follow the rules they like. Ignore the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 14:53:37 GMT -5
And there it is!! "Swarms of rats". Let's see if you can dehumanize them a little more so you don't have to apply the basic christian values towards them that you and the rest of the right like to claim to possess and like to claim that this country is founded on. Violating our sovereignty. Are they taking over parts of this country and forming their own government? Can we be just a bit more over dramatic here? Trying to defend an undeveloped country, who had a fraction of a percent of what inhabits America today is apples to oranges but is always the liberals drum to pound. Take at look at the Indian lands they currently run pretty much under their set of rules and laws. Lol, they are all strung out on drugs and just have not developed much, unless you want to talk about the few who run Indian Casinos. Why do you think all these Mexican gangs/cartels smuggle into the United States? Because as a nation we are strung out on drugs and just have not developed much...
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 4, 2017 14:56:58 GMT -5
And there it is!! "Swarms of rats". Let's see if you can dehumanize them a little more so you don't have to apply the basic christian values towards them that you and the rest of the right like to claim to possess and like to claim that this country is founded on. Violating our sovereignty. Are they taking over parts of this country and forming their own government? Can we be just a bit more over dramatic here? The Bible is pretty clear and so was Jesus teachings, obey the law. Trying to defend an undeveloped country, who had a fraction of a percent of what inhabits America today is apples to oranges but is always the liberals drum to pound. Take at look at the Indian lands they currently run pretty much under their set of rules and laws. Lol, they are all strung out on drugs and just have not developed much, unless you want to talk about the few who run Indian Casinos. I don't like a stretch of road in my town where its 25. Many think it should be 35, maybe even 45, but if I do 35, or 45, I will get a ticket eventually. Don't like it, but its the law. Bleeding liberals, only want to follow the rules they like. Ignore the rest. Slavery was the law in Jesus's time. You saying he was pro-slavery? This is what it has come to for you? This is your best argument? That Jesus Christ was pro-slavery? Good lord son. That was the excuse every racist preacher in the South used to keep slavery and Jim Crow laws around. As an American, it is your obligation to dis-obey unconstitutional laws. George Washington was a bleeding liberal, he didn't follow the rule of law. So was Ben Franklin. Shooting fish in a barrel kid. You an American or not?
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 4, 2017 15:45:30 GMT -5
There you have it, the spin as always.
Illegal is illegal. Like it or not Torch. Go to another country if you don't like it. Im sure Mexico needs a burger flipper like you.
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Post by sithbucknut77 on Aug 4, 2017 15:55:13 GMT -5
And there it is!! "Swarms of rats". Let's see if you can dehumanize them a little more so you don't have to apply the basic christian values towards them that you and the rest of the right like to claim to possess and like to claim that this country is founded on. Violating our sovereignty. Are they taking over parts of this country and forming their own government? Can we be just a bit more over dramatic here? The Bible is pretty clear and so was Jesus teachings, obey the law. Trying to defend an undeveloped country, who had a fraction of a percent of what inhabits America today is apples to oranges but is always the liberals drum to pound. Take at look at the Indian lands they currently run pretty much under their set of rules and laws. Lol, they are all strung out on drugs and just have not developed much, unless you want to talk about the few who run Indian Casinos. I don't like a stretch of road in my town where its 25. Many think it should be 35, maybe even 45, but if I do 35, or 45, I will get a ticket eventually. Don't like it, but its the law. Bleeding liberals, only want to follow the rules they like. Ignore the rest. Ignorance at its finest
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 4, 2017 16:01:55 GMT -5
There you have it, the spin as always. Illegal is illegal. Like it or not Torch. Go to another country if you don't like it. Im sure Mexico needs a burger flipper like you. no, America does multiple poster name using pussy i've never gotten a speeding ticket...i think anyone who was ever caught speeding should have their citizenship revoked and be deported for not following the law
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 4, 2017 16:03:43 GMT -5
Get into the Bible son. You know nothing.
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 4, 2017 16:05:36 GMT -5
There you have it, the spin as always. Illegal is illegal. Like it or not Torch. Go to another country if you don't like it. Im sure Mexico needs a burger flipper like you. no, America does multiple poster name using pussy i've never gotten a speeding ticket...i think anyone who was ever caught speeding should have their citizenship revoked and be deported for not following the law There is that Torch we all come to love. Come on son, just let it out. The law is the law. dumb donkey, illegals are not citizens of the US. You are a complete moron dude. Keep posting puhleasseeeeee You don't even know the difference between a US citizen and an illegal.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 4, 2017 16:08:24 GMT -5
'Swarming like rats' was a poor choice of words and I don't correlate the illegals with rats, my apolory using that term.
The wall should have been completed 50 years ago and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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