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Post by tommygunn on Aug 23, 2017 14:27:49 GMT -5
Now these pussies want Christopher Columbus statues removed. When will this stop. Offended by statues all of a sudden? What a bunch of pussies. You of all people shouldn't be throwing the word "pussies" around. Good God you're scared of everything that isn't white. I mean reprehensible as they are at least the hate mongers in Charlettesville had the balls to come out of their mommy's basement and show the world who they were. Oh you mean all those pussies who dress in black and cover their face up. Yup, sure are basement dweller pussies like you.
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 23, 2017 14:30:39 GMT -5
MLK, when asked about a young mans sexual feeling for another man, told this man that is was good that he recognized his problem and must work to fix it. Yes, lets tear down MLK statues and rename streets. He is a homophobe.WIVB put up this post the other day and it had people weighing in back and forth about whether or not to rename our state. Good ole’ New York, according to The Daily Caller, is named after slave trader–James Stuart, who was the Duke of York. Stuart, who Phippen says later became King James II of England, “created Britain’s greatest slave empire” — the Royal African Company. Phippen says the company “transported between 90,000 and 100,000 African slaves to the Caribbean and American colonies between 1672 and 1689.” “The memory of slavery is enshrined in the name New York as well as the name of the nation’s capitol, even though both cities have vastly changed from their christening,”
Rename NY and all those liberal colleges who were named after slave owners.
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Post by blazer on Aug 24, 2017 7:35:17 GMT -5
I see since all of you closet "white nationalists" can't argue the "heritage" of confederate statues built in the 1960's anymore you want to move on to the "slippery slope" argument to keep them up. Let's for a moment consider that Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin were founding fathers. The Confederates were traitors. That should be enough of a line to calm your fears. Now I realize that there may be a few dozen or so on the far left that may have called for more. That hardly qualifies as a movement. If the confederate statues were built in the 1960's, why did it take 50+ years to become offended, and finally do something about it? Maybe, they were told to be offended today? I couldn't care any less if they statues remain or are removed, but the mob-rule mentality isn't the correct way to have them removed.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 24, 2017 8:26:19 GMT -5
I see since all of you closet "white nationalists" can't argue the "heritage" of confederate statues built in the 1960's anymore you want to move on to the "slippery slope" argument to keep them up. Let's for a moment consider that Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin were founding fathers. The Confederates were traitors. That should be enough of a line to calm your fears. Now I realize that there may be a few dozen or so on the far left that may have called for more. That hardly qualifies as a movement. If the confederate statues were built in the 1960's, why did it take 50+ years to become offended, and finally do something about it? Maybe, they were told to be offended today? I couldn't care any less if they statues remain or are removed, but the mob-rule mentality isn't the correct way to have them removed. Anyone thinking these sequence of events are anything other than orchestrated, is guilty of naivette. The 'mob-rule mentality' is better described as 'street anarchists'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 10:59:06 GMT -5
I see since all of you closet "white nationalists" can't argue the "heritage" of confederate statues built in the 1960's anymore you want to move on to the "slippery slope" argument to keep them up. Let's for a moment consider that Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin were founding fathers. The Confederates were traitors. That should be enough of a line to calm your fears. Now I realize that there may be a few dozen or so on the far left that may have called for more. That hardly qualifies as a movement. If the confederate statues were built in the 1960's, why did it take 50+ years to become offended, and finally do something about it? Maybe, they were told to be offended today? I couldn't care any less if they statues remain or are removed, but the mob-rule mentality isn't the correct way to have them removed. I think it's more an issue of the statues and flags becoming a symbol for racism and nazism and those groups have been embolden by Trump's candidacy/presidency.
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Post by blazer on Aug 24, 2017 11:50:51 GMT -5
If the confederate statues were built in the 1960's, why did it take 50+ years to become offended, and finally do something about it? Maybe, they were told to be offended today? I couldn't care any less if they statues remain or are removed, but the mob-rule mentality isn't the correct way to have them removed. I think it's more an issue of the statues and flags becoming a symbol for racism and nazism and those groups have been embolden by Trump's candidacy/presidency. Could be. Just glad these groups weren't emboldened until Trump's candidacy/presidency. Who know how many riots we would have had. Oh snap...
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Post by Rambo McClain on Aug 24, 2017 11:51:51 GMT -5
It's more of an issue of puppets having their strings pulled and doing what their puppet masters want them to do. They have been protesting in Charlottesville for MONTHS now, ask yourself why all of a sudden the mainstream media ascended in on Charlottesville? The mainstream media arrived just in time for someone to drive a car over someone else after months of zero violent protests. Here's the police under the order of 'stand down' watching the guy who drove the car into a crowd drive away. For 7 straight months all you heard about was Trump colluded with Russia. That narrative failed so now the media is telling you Trump is a Nazi and Nazi's are everywhere the media looks. We are onto the Nazi narrative. Strings are being pulled and we see who the puppets are. Look up the Ukrainian Revolution of 2014, the President of the Ukraine was taken from power by .... riots in the street. Look up which side the US backed in the Ukraine Revolution. The Obama administration backed the Ukrainian neo-Nazi wing. Yes, the Obama administration backed a neo-Nazi wing that went out and started riots which led to the removal of the Ukrainian President. Fast forward to 2017 and the media narrative is neo-Nazi are everywhere and the USA President needs removed. Who is backing this neo-Nazi wing? Well the organizer of the Charlottesville protest was part of the Occupy Movement and an Obama supporter. He has erased most of his Internet history but people caught on to the fact he is a phony and is a liberal playing a neo-Nazi to start a race riot. How many more of those neo-Nazi that you see on TV are paid actors. The end justifies the means ... This youtube video has now been deleted but I screen grabbed this phony being caught. He was caught and doxed as the phony he is 7 months ago. Jason Kessler is the one that organized Charlottesville. Ask yourself why CNN didn't tell you any of this?
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 24, 2017 12:27:50 GMT -5
It continues to amaze me how all the news networks continue to promote the false narrative that this kid plowed into a group of innocent demonstrators. This is not as cut and dried as they would like the viewing public to believe.
There is definitely a given, reckless operation of a vehicle endangering pedestrians, that lead to the assured clear distance violation and collision that forced the struck vehicle to fatally injure the victim. If you will notice near the end of this video clip, the 'innocent' demonstrators were dressed for battle. Heads covered to conceal identity and armed with clubs and bats. The false media wants viewers to believe there were exclusively neo-nazis and white supremists, while all others were concerned citizens excercising their Constitutional rights....just good Americans standing up for all the rest of us good Americans. We know that was not the case at all. Where was law enforcement? It is now revealed, they were ordered to stand down. We all know what 'stand down' has done for us in recent past.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 24, 2017 14:03:56 GMT -5
anyone who has spent any time dealing with Unions know they bus professional picketers to any strike to make it look even worse than it is, and to escalate/get attention, i experienced this myself crossing a picket line at Ohio Stadium in 2011...every side has professional people on the scene creating a phony environment
i mean, when you see a shot of (random Middle East Country here) and the people are holding signs that say, "Die American Pigs!" and the sign is hand-written in perfect English, there's obviously some staging going on there
i get a bit of a chill down my spine because a lot of folks on the left who claim to be inclusive and champions of racial equality sure don't seem to be too interested in keeping Whitey at the table, that is why Trump is President, it was the biggest backlash vote since, well, i hate to say Hitler because of the context, but that is the same sort of thing...extremism on either end (and Obama/Pelosi ramrodding an unread Health Care Bill down our throats was extremism with a giant X) always whips the Pendulum the opposite way with aggravated force
like Yeats said, the ever widening gyre, centers cannot hold, etc. etc.
it isn't Liberalism or Conservatism that are the big issues here, the big issues are extremism, and those fans were flamed by the last administration to the point that now we have Trump and a bunch of angry white dudes, and why wouldn't they feel empowered? they saw the left do whatever they wanted with total impunity...they figure now it's their turn
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 24, 2017 14:36:48 GMT -5
Pretty good post Torch. Pendulums do swing from one side to the other, but at my age of 50, I literally cannot remember the chaos and destruction we are seeing now. There has always been championed issues on both side and yes the occasional flare up, but now, its totally out of control.
I said under Obama, that a war was coming one way or the other. It's totally inevitable. One side is totally out of control, one side is getting fed up with the madness. It will happen, it will be bloody, lives will be lost.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 24, 2017 14:38:32 GMT -5
"it isn't Liberalism or Conservatism that are the big issues here, the big issues are extremism, and those fans were flamed by the last administration to the point that now we have Trump and a bunch of angry white dudes, and why wouldn't they feel empowered? they saw the left do whatever they wanted with total impunity...they figure now it's their turn"
Couldn't agree more. These 'freedom of speach' rallies are a magnet for every kook imaginable. It becomes a cesspool of non-reasoning insanity, compressed in a confined, uncompromising space. Personally, I will make a concerted effort to be as far removed from those 'expressing' their Constitutional rights.
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Post by tommygunn on Aug 24, 2017 14:40:19 GMT -5
Also, lets not ignore that the media is doing so much damage. CNN has literally went bonkers. ESPN, might as well be CNN's red headed cousin. Trump has denounced the KKK, David Duke, White Supremacists since the 80s and has done so on record over and over again for the last 30 years, but now because Hillary didnt win, he is a racist white lover. Journalism is literally dead for the most part. If you one watches MSNBC, CNN and parts of FOX (who seem to exclude themselves from the fake news), one is part of the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 14:47:14 GMT -5
Personally, I will make a concerted effort to be as far removed from those 'expressing' their Constitutional rights. Amen.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 24, 2017 15:05:49 GMT -5
Pretty good post Torch. Pendulums do swing from one side to the other, but at my age of 50, I literally cannot remember the chaos and destruction we are seeing now. There has always been championed issues on both side and yes the occasional flare up, but now, its totally out of control. I said under Obama, that a war was coming one way or the other. It's totally inevitable. One side is totally out of control, one side is getting fed up with the madness. It will happen, it will be bloody, lives will be lost. i think Nixon's election in '68 was a similar thing in terms of white-establishment dominated males ramrodding a hardass into office that would stand as a stark contrast to the hippie movement, but with the 24 hour media coverage and the fact that tv news programs embrace politico instead of trying to refrain from it, it just leads to a warped picture anymore...it's impossible to get a clear picture of anything anywhere i used to online game with a chick from China who would practice her English by reading the State Newspaper in one of our chat rooms to us English speakers, and i don't know how accurate the news she read actually was (probably not very ha) but what always struck me was there was never an opinion or a slant or a bias, it was just factual reporting devoid of opinion it was kind of nice
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 24, 2017 16:05:34 GMT -5
Pretty good post Torch. Pendulums do swing from one side to the other, but at my age of 50, I literally cannot remember the chaos and destruction we are seeing now. There has always been championed issues on both side and yes the occasional flare up, but now, its totally out of control. I said under Obama, that a war was coming one way or the other. It's totally inevitable. One side is totally out of control, one side is getting fed up with the madness. It will happen, it will be bloody, lives will be lost. i think Nixon's election in '68 was a similar thing in terms of white-establishment dominated males ramrodding a hardass into office that would stand as a stark contrast to the hippie movement, but with the 24 hour media coverage and the fact that tv news programs embrace politico instead of trying to refrain from it, it just leads to a warped picture anymore...it's impossible to get a clear picture of anything anywhere i used to online game with a chick from China who would practice her English by reading the State Newspaper in one of our chat rooms to us English speakers, and i don't know how accurate the news she read actually was (probably not very ha) but what always struck me was there was never an opinion or a slant or a bias, it was just factual reporting devoid of opinionit was kind of nice You can convey inner thoughts without words on line, but only when you get familiar with the person you are conversing with. I'm assuming those in Communist, state run dictatorships, have mastered that art of communication. I have done that, as has most men.....my wife can look me in the eye and I know exactly if I'm in trouble or not....lol It would be refreshing to converse in a strictly factual manner, but we know the reason they omit opinions and insights, through fear of repercussions. I would settle for a half-way point, as far too many of us are entirely too outspoken on most everything these days, not excluding myself...
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 24, 2017 16:18:31 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 24, 2017 16:18:36 GMT -5
White male voters was not the reason Donald Trump was elected President which has been put out there by the LYING media.
The REAL reason is that 7% of the black voters who voted when a black candidate ran for President didn't go to the polls when there wasn't a black candidate running. If they had gotten off their arses and voted, Hillary would have won by a land slide.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 24, 2017 17:25:09 GMT -5
you have a point, Romney i think actually got more votes
but let's not mistake a groundswell movement for anything other than what it was, it was driven locally by the American Interior which is almost exclusively white...Trump got destroyed on the coasts (liberal hot-beds) except in the South, and he did well in States where immigration reform is a hot bed issue
let's not kid ourselves with red herrings like the black vote dropped, the white vote will drop too as soon as both candidates are black/hispanic/asian
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Post by blazer on Aug 24, 2017 17:33:50 GMT -5
White male voters was not the reason Donald Trump was elected President which has been put out there by the LYING media. The REAL reason is that 7% of the black voters who voted when a black candidate ran for President didn't go to the polls when there wasn't a black candidate running. If they had gotten off their arses and voted, Hillary would have won by a land slide. True. Evil, bigoted, racist, homophobic white male voters did not elect Trump.
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Post by blazer on Aug 24, 2017 17:38:38 GMT -5
"it isn't Liberalism or Conservatism that are the big issues here, the big issues are extremism, and those fans were flamed by the last administration to the point that now we have Trump and a bunch of angry white dudes, and why wouldn't they feel empowered? they saw the left do whatever they wanted with total impunity...they figure now it's their turn" Couldn't agree more. These 'freedom of speach' rallies are a magnet for every kook imaginable. It becomes a cesspool of non-reasoning insanity, compressed in a confined, uncompromising space. Personally, I will make a concerted effort to be as far removed from those 'expressing' their Constitutional rights. There is nothing wrong with expressing your constitutional rights, or even listening to someone who is expressing their constitutional rights. It's how you respond, and how they respond to you that makes it an issue..
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 24, 2017 19:34:50 GMT -5
"it isn't Liberalism or Conservatism that are the big issues here, the big issues are extremism, and those fans were flamed by the last administration to the point that now we have Trump and a bunch of angry white dudes, and why wouldn't they feel empowered? they saw the left do whatever they wanted with total impunity...they figure now it's their turn" Couldn't agree more. These 'freedom of speach' rallies are a magnet for every kook imaginable. It becomes a cesspool of non-reasoning insanity, compressed in a confined, uncompromising space. Personally, I will make a concerted effort to be as far removed from those 'expressing' their Constitutional rights. There is nothing wrong with expressing your constitutional rights, or even listening to someone who is expressing their constitutional rights. It's how you respond, and how they respond to you that makes it an issue.. Modern day interpretation of what is constitutional has become rather convoluted. If one persons righteous idea of 'expression' deprives or limits someone else's freedoms, those efforts should be blocked. (as in denying a permit) One person's personal freedoms should not come at the expense of others.
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Post by blazer on Aug 24, 2017 20:01:17 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with expressing your constitutional rights, or even listening to someone who is expressing their constitutional rights. It's how you respond, and how they respond to you that makes it an issue.. Modern day interpretation of what is constitutional has been rather convoluted. If one persons righteous idea of 'expression' deprives or limits someone else's freedoms, those efforts should be blocked. (as in denying a permit) One person's personal freedoms should not come at the expense others. Don't give up. Don't give in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 7:46:26 GMT -5
White male voters was not the reason Donald Trump was elected President which has been put out there by the LYING media. The REAL reason is that 7% of the black voters who voted when a black candidate ran for President didn't go to the polls when there wasn't a black candidate running. If they had gotten off their arses and voted, Hillary would have won by a land slide. True. Evil, bigoted, racist, homophobic white male voters did not elect Trump. America elected Trump. Anyone who truly wants racism to end needs to stop making categories to separate us.
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Post by blazer on Aug 25, 2017 9:09:06 GMT -5
True. Evil, bigoted, racist, homophobic white male voters did not elect Trump. America elected Trump. Anyone who truly wants racism to end needs to stop making categories to separate us. Apologies, I didn't use the sarcasm font.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 10:53:04 GMT -5
America elected Trump. Anyone who truly wants racism to end needs to stop making categories to separate us. Apologies, I didn't use the sarcasm font. I read it as sarcasm without it. I was making a general statement when I hear people toss out percentages of race.
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Post by piratefan on Aug 25, 2017 16:21:36 GMT -5
Why is it that NONE of these statues was "offensive" when Obama was president? This is all just a liberal ploy to make Trump look bad. Either that, or the left have lost their minds. I've always heard that liberalism is a mental illness.......they're proving that every day.
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