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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 23, 2017 19:19:15 GMT -5
On to Week 6 we go! Can you believe the regular season is halfway over already? The 4-1 Galion Tigers head south to Presidential Drive to take on the 3-2 Harding Presidents. Galion is coming off of a 42-35 win at home over River Valley while Harding comes off a 21-14 loss at Pleasant. Of all current MOAC teams, Harding has the most history with Galion as they played in the North Central Ohio League from the 1920's through 1944. The 2 teams also played non conference off and on over the years including from 1986- 1996. All time Harding has won 26 times, Galion has won 24 times and there was 1 tie. They have split the pair of meetings since Harding joined the MOAC for football in 2015. Harding won last year 40-12. Thoughts on this one.....
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 23, 2017 19:55:35 GMT -5
This will be a case of which two teams show up. If it is the two teams that played Pleasant then Harding wins. If it is the Harding team from the OOC games and the Galion team that played RV last week, then Galion has a chance to win.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 23, 2017 19:56:32 GMT -5
I think harding brings us back to Earth in this one. The fact that they only lost to Pleasant by 7 shows me something about their talent level.
We couldn't even compete with Pleasant.
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Post by 4 on Sept 24, 2017 10:53:38 GMT -5
Hopefully Harding cleans up turnovers and such, add another player in Ladd after his 5 weeks suspension, don't know how much he'll do but just another option. I think Harding wins by 2 scores or more if they come to play, I'm interested to see ivy at qb.
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Post by 7up on Sept 25, 2017 1:45:16 GMT -5
I think harding brings us back to Earth in this one. The fact that they only lost to Pleasant by 7 shows me something about their talent level. We couldn't even compete with Pleasant. you have that TOTALLY WRONG! Harding's athletes are there,they have 2 D1 recruits on defense in Booker and Thompson. They have 2 backs that are 200 pounds and run very hard. What Harding lacks is COACHING , that offensive coordinator shouldn't even be calling midget football plays!! And one more thing if they would take the time during the game to coach them they may respond because at the past few games I've been to all I have seen is coaches screaming at their players ,there is ZERO coaching no patience with them boys which are a very talented group, well besides half of the offensive line but they have some speed at the skill and omg that fullback I watched him over the past few weeks destroy kids blocking . In my personal opinion Harding needs to clean house after this season and get FIRST an assertive head coach to bring in coaches who coach and mean business,because what is coming up from the middle school are some awesome athletes as well that can do some great things as long as they are coached up right |
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Post by 7up on Sept 25, 2017 1:48:53 GMT -5
I think harding brings us back to Earth in this one. The fact that they only lost to Pleasant by 7 shows me something about their talent level. We couldn't even compete with Pleasant. I'm sorry I just realized your a Galion fan hahaha I apologize |
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Post by galion on Sept 25, 2017 3:32:53 GMT -5
This might be more interesting than you think. Harding hasn't really showed much offensively this year, at least not on the scoreboard. If they get hit with a little adversity early(penalties, turnovers, etc) it could end up being tighter than you think. They let Ontario hang with them and I don't believe Ontario is nearly as good as Pleasant.
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Post by 4 on Sept 25, 2017 11:07:40 GMT -5
I know booker took a visit to cinci for baseball couple weeks ago. And I know both have had interest in football. Do you know what schools? Booker will play D1 in whatever one he chooses, but I also know Thompson has had interest as well.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 25, 2017 12:58:00 GMT -5
I think harding brings us back to Earth in this one. The fact that they only lost to Pleasant by 7 shows me something about their talent level. We couldn't even compete with Pleasant. you have that TOTALLY WRONG! Harding's athletes are there,they have 2 D1 recruits on defense in Booker and Thompson. They have 2 backs that are 200 pounds and run very hard. What Harding lacks is COACHING , that offensive coordinator shouldn't even be calling midget football plays!! And one more thing if they would take the time during the game to coach them they may respond because at the past few games I've been to all I have seen is coaches screaming at their players ,there is ZERO coaching no patience with them boys which are a very talented group, well besides half of the offensive line but they have some speed at the skill and omg that fullback I watched him over the past few weeks destroy kids blocking . In my personal opinion Harding needs to clean house after this season and get FIRST an assertive head coach to bring in coaches who coach and mean business,because what is coming up from the middle school are some awesome athletes as well that can do some great things as long as they are coached up right Yeah, that's funny. I was trying to figure out if you meant to quote me or someone else  |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 25, 2017 20:09:46 GMT -5
This might be more interesting than you think. Harding hasn't really showed much offensively this year, at least not on the scoreboard. If they get hit with a little adversity early(penalties, turnovers, etc) it could end up being tighter than you think. They let Ontario hang with them and I don't believe Ontario is nearly as good as Pleasant. Galion should win easily. Harding scored 3 TD's against Ontario, 2 were fumbles returned for TDs. They were held to less than 20 yards of total offense in the first half. |
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Post by hardingmavman on Sept 25, 2017 21:59:35 GMT -5
I think harding brings us back to Earth in this one. The fact that they only lost to Pleasant by 7 shows me something about their talent level. We couldn't even compete with Pleasant. you have that TOTALLY WRONG! Harding's athletes are there,they have 2 D1 recruits on defense in Booker and Thompson. They have 2 backs that are 200 pounds and run very hard. What Harding lacks is COACHING , that offensive coordinator shouldn't even be calling midget football plays!! And one more thing if they would take the time during the game to coach them they may respond because at the past few games I've been to all I have seen is coaches screaming at their players ,there is ZERO coaching no patience with them boys which are a very talented group, well besides half of the offensive line but they have some speed at the skill and omg that fullback I watched him over the past few weeks destroy kids blocking . In my personal opinion Harding needs to clean house after this season and get FIRST an assertive head coach to bring in coaches who coach and mean business,because what is coming up from the middle school are some awesome athletes as well that can do some great things as long as they are coached up right i totally agree... i think the biggest issues with Harding is the coaching has too much favoritism its not what you know its WHO you know... the coaches dont seem to give a crap half the time and like you said i dont know what happened to CJ this year he seems totally lost especially when they get inside the 20... |
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Post by 4 on Sept 25, 2017 22:00:59 GMT -5
This might be more interesting than you think. Harding hasn't really showed much offensively this year, at least not on the scoreboard. If they get hit with a little adversity early(penalties, turnovers, etc) it could end up being tighter than you think. They let Ontario hang with them and I don't believe Ontario is nearly as good as Pleasant. Galion should win easily. Harding scored 3 TD's against Ontario, 2 were fumbles returned for TDs. They were held to less than 20 yards of total offense in the first half. Galion should win easily? Lmaoo |
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Post by galion on Sept 26, 2017 5:36:15 GMT -5
I don't agree with the easy part but it wouldn't be that shocking given MH's offensive struggles thus far.
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Post by babymaker on Sept 26, 2017 7:04:04 GMT -5
I know booker took a visit to cinci for baseball couple weeks ago. And I know both have had interest in football. Do you know what schools? Booker will play D1 in whatever one he chooses, but I also know Thompson has had interest as well. I don't see any team at D1 level taking Booker in football. College value speed and Booker doesn't have it he would be slow as a college LB. I know you have a love affair with Booker but he is average at best and would struggle to get any sort of scholarship money playing football at any level. Now baseball is a completely different deal. He is VERY good and has a chance, the issue is Baseball scholarships are rarely ever full rides. |
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Post by 4 on Sept 26, 2017 11:51:59 GMT -5
You just sound stupid, i support all the players. And I just go on what I hear. I'm pretty sure you don't scout, or recruit. There's a spot for him at a mac school in football, and in baseball he will probably have options.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 26, 2017 14:04:05 GMT -5
Galion should win easily. Harding scored 3 TD's against Ontario, 2 were fumbles returned for TDs. They were held to less than 20 yards of total offense in the first half. Galion should win easily? Lmaoo Ok, not easily, just SHOULD win. |
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Post by 4 on Sept 26, 2017 14:54:33 GMT -5
I think it'll be closs if Harding does nothing on offense again. But they showed something against pleasant had a chance to go up 21-0 but 2 drives failed in red zone. Bad play calling inside 20 and self inflicted wounds. I'm guessing Harding by 2 TDS but I wouldn't be surprised if came down to wire again.
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Post by babymaker on Sept 26, 2017 16:50:24 GMT -5
You just sound stupid, i support all the players. And I just go on what I hear. I'm pretty sure you don't scout, or recruit. There's a spot for him at a mac school in football, and in baseball he will probably have options. I sound stupid? Would you like to take bets on it? I have been around football to know what college teams look for, and sorry what your hearing doesn't match. PS you don't know me or my past so don't be so sure. |
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 27, 2017 9:03:25 GMT -5
Drew Pasteur: Harding by 6
Calpreps: Harding 21 Galion 14
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Post by 7up on Sept 27, 2017 9:12:55 GMT -5
That loss to Pleasant took whatever Harding had in their tank out. They won 3 games on pure luck , sad to say but it's 100% true. First off there is to much bs and me first,fighting amongst teammates , kids telling the coaches where they will play and won't play. Also lack of leadership from players and coaches,if you have uncoachable kids you can and will not win period! The hype going into this season for Harding sure fooled everyone, really after I saw the offensive coordinator was still going to be there I knew it was going to be a mess. They win 1 more game this year and that's not a for sure thing. It will be either North Union or RV but they are 2 run heavy teams and Harding has proven they cant stop the run and then when opponent hits with play action the entire secondary is in LA LA land . To me it seems most of their team with exception of about 4 kids are JV quality players, it just doesn't seem kids want to play football at that school anymore . Harding has always turned out talented players , usually having a good RBs and DBs but one thing I absolutely have NOT seen since the 90s were lineman ESPECIALLY offensive lineman!!! I've never seen a more lazy bunch of kids in my life I don't think the center runs anywhere ever and goes on the sideline and screams at the other Olineman, anyway but in my opinion that's where the focus needs to be in future there because you know you will have speed guys and a power guy here n there but what good is all that speed if you can't sustain a block or control the line on either side of the ball.
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Post by 4 on Sept 27, 2017 10:14:02 GMT -5
Yeah im 100% convinced you haven't watched a game this year. For one the center is the best lineman on the team lol, you won't see him give up a sack. And I'd bet you anything they win more then one game lol. You sound severely depressed.
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Post by gtab on Sept 27, 2017 11:28:31 GMT -5
"You sound severely depressed." Maybe it's the almost impossible to follow the writing style that he continually demonstrates.  |
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Post by blazer on Sept 27, 2017 12:20:34 GMT -5
Harding's procedure penalties and turnovers gives some credence to what 7 is saying. Lack of football fundamentals is another way to say it
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 27, 2017 14:42:27 GMT -5
I know it is a small matter and I already know the posters that will swarm to my comment like bees to honey to denounce it, but for what it is worth.
I like to get to the games early and watch the teams warm up. When a team pauses in their warm up routine to watch the opposing team come on the field, they have already lost the game.
When the team comes across in trail and squares at the corner to go down the sideline watch how they "square" the corner. Cutting it short, sloppy moves that carry over into the game.
When the talent level of the two teams is equal, those are very good indicators of a team that will lose the game.
Okay, 4 and hardingmavman step right up and toss your missives of ridicule.
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 27, 2017 14:54:45 GMT -5
I know it is a small matter and I already know the posters that will swarm to my comment like bees to honey to denounce it, but for what it is worth. I like to get to the games early and watch the teams warm up. When a team pauses in their warm up routine to watch the opposing team come on the field, they have already lost the game. When the team comes across in trail and squares at the corner to go down the sideline watch how they "square" the corner. Cutting it short, sloppy moves that carry over into the game. When the talent level of the two teams is equal, those are very good indicators of a team that will lose the game. Okay, 4 and hardingmavman step right up and toss your missives of ridicule. If the 2 teams are equal it could be a factor because it could be an indicator of lack of discipline and attention to detail. |
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 27, 2017 16:26:57 GMT -5
I know it is a small matter and I already know the posters that will swarm to my comment like bees to honey to denounce it, but for what it is worth. I like to get to the games early and watch the teams warm up. When a team pauses in their warm up routine to watch the opposing team come on the field, they have already lost the game. When the team comes across in trail and squares at the corner to go down the sideline watch how they "square" the corner. Cutting it short, sloppy moves that carry over into the game. When the talent level of the two teams is equal, those are very good indicators of a team that will lose the game. Okay, 4 and hardingmavman step right up and toss your missives of ridicule. Interesting take. But what if the starters cut the corner so sharply that you could mark their tracks with a carpenter's square and the 3rd stringers are rounding it off? Then what will happen?  |
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Post by hardingmavman on Sept 27, 2017 16:29:45 GMT -5
I know it is a small matter and I already know the posters that will swarm to my comment like bees to honey to denounce it, but for what it is worth. I like to get to the games early and watch the teams warm up. When a team pauses in their warm up routine to watch the opposing team come on the field, they have already lost the game. When the team comes across in trail and squares at the corner to go down the sideline watch how they "square" the corner. Cutting it short, sloppy moves that carry over into the game. When the talent level of the two teams is equal, those are very good indicators of a team that will lose the game. Okay, 4 and hardingmavman step right up and toss your missives of ridicule. im good... lol i actually agree with you i cant stand anymore how the team does warm ups ect. go into the locker room with like 15 mins left to warm up come out like whatever(the band doesnt help the cause) its actually quite embarrassing the state Harding football has become its almost like people are more worried about the band anymore then the football team. i dont know what happened to Brady either for being a assistant to Hinton and playing in the NFL ect. he sure doesnt seem like he could care less the last couple years... he still has his moments but thats what happens when you bring in sons and friends as coaches instead of experienced people... i still support the team but its terrible the attitude kids have now there... |
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 27, 2017 16:38:00 GMT -5
^^^^
Your comment about the band made me remember as I drove out around the school there were at least 5 maybe more busses for the band. Their performance has become the highlight of the evening more and more over the past couple of years. As travel was very slow I had the chance to speak through the truck window and told some of the members going to the busses that they had performed quite nicely. Maybe Harding people are in deed more worried about the band than the football team.
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Post by hardingmavman on Sept 27, 2017 19:46:41 GMT -5
^^^^ Your comment about the band made me remember as I drove out around the school there were at least 5 maybe more busses for the band. Their performance has become the highlight of the evening more and more over the past couple of years. As travel was very slow I had the chance to speak through the truck window and told some of the members going to the busses that they had performed quite nicely. Maybe Harding people are in deed more worried about the band than the football team. in all honesty i feel like they are sometimes.. |
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 28, 2017 2:38:12 GMT -5
I know it is a small matter and I already know the posters that will swarm to my comment like bees to honey to denounce it, but for what it is worth. I like to get to the games early and watch the teams warm up. When a team pauses in their warm up routine to watch the opposing team come on the field, they have already lost the game. When the team comes across in trail and squares at the corner to go down the sideline watch how they "square" the corner. Cutting it short, sloppy moves that carry over into the game. When the talent level of the two teams is equal, those are very good indicators of a team that will lose the game. Okay, 4 and hardingmavman step right up and toss your missives of ridicule. Interesting take. But what if the starters cut the corner so sharply that you could mark their tracks with a carpenter's square and the 3rd stringers are rounding it off? Then what will happen? The same would probably hold true. Your scenario hints at lack of leadership on the part of the starters. A lack of "this is how it is done" passed on to the 3rd stringers. |
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