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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 23, 2017 19:20:01 GMT -5
Have these two schools ever played before?
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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 23, 2017 19:26:15 GMT -5
Huron may be the best team Shelby faces in the regular season but I still like the Whippets in this one. With everyone back, they look ready to make quite a run.
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Post by greenman on Sept 23, 2017 22:10:58 GMT -5
I've never heard of these schools playing in the modern era. If they have at all, you might have to go back a half-century or more to find it. Shelby wins.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 23, 2017 22:30:33 GMT -5
Huron must play Shelby this year. But does not want to play them next year.
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Post by sweathog on Sept 24, 2017 5:33:09 GMT -5
Huron will not play Shelby next year.
All the other schools will as on now.
But they will be all non league games as of now!
Shelby will be in no league for football next year, that is my understanding!
Also you are wrong about OCC not wanting Shelby!!!
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Post by galion on Sept 24, 2017 5:33:40 GMT -5
Huron may be the best team Shelby faces in the regular season but I still like the Whippets in this one. With everyone back, they look ready to make quite a run. I'm not sure about that. Outside of their loss to Sandusky, Huron hasn't played anyone yet. They still have OH, PC, Edison, and a 4-1 Vermillion team to go.
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Post by SportsNut on Sept 24, 2017 7:31:18 GMT -5
Huron will not play Shelby next year. All the other schools will as on now. But they will be all non league games as of now! Shelby will be in no league for football next year, that is my understanding! Also you are wrong about OCC not wanting Shelby!!! Up until this post u were saying Shelby should have went to OCC, now u are saying we said OCC didn't want Shelby...again, as I have said all along, all the OCC schools were fine with adding Shelby EXCEPT West Holmes. OCC said they would only add Shelby if vote was unanimous...but it was not. I guess I can't figure out why u keep trying to spin this when my statement is a proven fact...
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Post by 1percenter on Sept 24, 2017 8:35:48 GMT -5
fantastic50.net/team283.htmlDrew Pasteur's Fantastic 50 has Shelby favored by 10 vs Huron Shelby's chance of winning in their remaining games 73% chance vs 4-1 Huron 72% chance vs 4-1 Edison 74% chance vs 3-2 Port Clinton 94% chance vs 3-2 Oak Harbor 89% chance vs 4-1 Vermilion Plenty of good teams remaining on the schedule for Shelby. Pasteur ranks Shelby #1 in Region 14 and #7 in D4.
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Post by ptangzoot on Sept 24, 2017 12:27:32 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how Shelby's offensive line works this week.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 12:44:57 GMT -5
Huron & Shelby is a 2 year contract, regardless of league affiliation. Why would Huron want to look for another week 6 opponent, when there's not much out there to pick from ? Shelby may apply to not play Huron cause of their new league, But Huron could hold Shelby to the contract, As did Streetsboro did to Huron.
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Post by whippetfan on Sept 24, 2017 13:16:10 GMT -5
Looking through my Shelby history book (through 1985) Shelby has never played anyone in their new SBC division. Going to be interesting these next five weeks as the Whippets have no history to fall back on with these schools. Of course the same goes for them. A lot of watching films by the coaches to learn about their opponents.
Shelby's O-line looked a bit out of sync without Amstutz and as a result having to shift some people out of their normal position. I imagine this will be an emphasis this week and with a little more time they will start to gel.
Still too many offensive weapons for Shelby and making DC's figure out who to guard. If they don't shoot themselves in the foot and stay injury free I have to agree with Drew Pasteur on their probability to win out.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 24, 2017 15:17:33 GMT -5
Is the break in the arm such that they could get Amstutz back for the playoffs? Not up to date on what kind of a cast and covering is allowed by the OHSAA these days.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 24, 2017 15:19:30 GMT -5
Huron will not play Shelby next year. All the other schools will as on now. But they will be all non league games as of now! Shelby will be in no league for football next year, that is my understanding! Also you are wrong about OCC not wanting Shelby!!! Having only 7 schools, the OCC would "want" just about anyone at this point.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 24, 2017 16:52:28 GMT -5
Huron & Shelby is a 2 year contract, regardless of league affiliation. Why would Huron want to look for another week 6 opponent, when there's not much out there to pick from ? Shelby may apply to not play Huron cause of their new league, But Huron could hold Shelby to the contract, As did Streetsboro did to Huron. Shelby doesn't start playing football in the MOAC until 2019.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 25, 2017 7:07:13 GMT -5
My understanding is Shelby plays the exact same schedule as this year, but it will be as an independent. There is no chance for a division title and the kids cannot earn conference honors. Seems a bit punitive to me. Shelby went into the SBC making full disclosure that it was just until something better came along. Many of the lake schools responded we understand, we don't want to drive to Shelby either. What's the advantage to the SBC to do this except to take a team that might win the division out of the mix and open more spots for kids to get all-conference on teams staying? I know I'm biased, but it seems a little petty.
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Post by buckeye33 on Sept 25, 2017 7:15:25 GMT -5
Is the break in the arm such that they could get Amstutz back for the playoffs? Not up to date on what kind of a cast and covering is allowed by the OHSAA these days. Amstutz will be back in a couple weeks, he will be back before end of regular season
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Post by buckeye33 on Sept 25, 2017 7:17:36 GMT -5
Is the break in the arm such that they could get Amstutz back for the playoffs? Not up to date on what kind of a cast and covering is allowed by the OHSAA these days. Amstutz will be back in a couple weeks, he will be back before end of regular season
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Post by buckeye33 on Sept 25, 2017 7:20:29 GMT -5
Amstutz will be back in a couple weeks, before end of regular season
Quote from Shelby Principal in Daily Globe, Huron backed out of playing in Shelby next year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 8:24:09 GMT -5
Huron & Shelby is a 2 year contract, regardless of league affiliation. Why would Huron want to look for another week 6 opponent, when there's not much out there to pick from ? Shelby may apply to not play Huron cause of their new league, But Huron could hold Shelby to the contract, As did Streetsboro did to Huron. to answer your question why Huron wouldn't want to play Shelby...because they know it's a long drive to get a L
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 13:48:01 GMT -5
^^^ Agree with you on losing, But we don't mind the trip to Shelby. If Shelby has to be an independent next year, then who is being forced out of the River League to join the Bay Conference ? I thought it was foolish anyway for Shelby to join the SBC for travel reasons, If they hadn't joined, They could be in their new conference, a lot sooner.
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Post by SportsNut on Sept 25, 2017 13:55:07 GMT -5
^^^ Agree with you on losing, But we don't mind the trip to Shelby. If Shelby has to be an independent next year, then who is being forced out of the River League to join the Bay Conference ? I thought it was foolish anyway for Shelby to join the SBC for travel reasons, If they hadn't joined, They could be in their new conference, a lot sooner. The only reason Shelby was able to join MOAC was due to North Union leaving...they were denied joining MOAC before joining SBC due to the fact MOAC didn't want 9 schools...and Shelby couldn't find an acceptable partner to make a 10 team MOAC.
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Post by wallacefan on Sept 25, 2017 15:59:24 GMT -5
^^^ Agree with you on losing, But we don't mind the trip to Shelby. If Shelby has to be an independent next year, then who is being forced out of the River League to join the Bay Conference ? I thought it was foolish anyway for Shelby to join the SBC for travel reasons, If they hadn't joined, They could be in their new conference, a lot sooner. Willard is being forced up into the Bay Division for football. They are not happy about it and have contacted other conferences. So far, no takers.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 25, 2017 17:40:57 GMT -5
^^^ Agree with you on losing, But we don't mind the trip to Shelby. If Shelby has to be an independent next year, then who is being forced out of the River League to join the Bay Conference ? I thought it was foolish anyway for Shelby to join the SBC for travel reasons, If they hadn't joined, They could be in their new conference, a lot sooner. Willard is being forced up into the Bay Division for football. They are not happy about it and have contacted other conferences. So far, no takers. His question was regarding the 2018 season. Everything I've seen on here has stated that Willard football will be part of an 8 school River division in 2018 (when Danbury and Gibsonburg join), and then when Hopewell-Loudon joins in 2019 the Willard football program will move up to the Bay division, where all their other sports are already. As for the Bay division in 2018, it will only have 5 official members, with everyone having the option to still play their game against Shelby as a non league matchup or find someone else that week.
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Post by baldref on Sept 25, 2017 18:08:49 GMT -5
Too bad Huron is taking that attitude vs Shelby. O Who did Huron pick up to replace Shelby next year? Should just add to the atmosphere this Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 18:19:33 GMT -5
There's no attitude up here. There is no rivalry between Huron & Shelby. Just another game to us, But some of us are being realistic about Huron should get hammered, And we're kinda sure of it. I couldn't remember back that far that Shelby was turned down by the MOAC, at the time of having to join the S. Bay Conference.
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Post by baldref on Sept 25, 2017 18:26:20 GMT -5
Think will be tough for both schools to find week six replacements next season. Usually most schools are playing league games at that point and are already committed.
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Post by wallacefan on Sept 25, 2017 18:58:00 GMT -5
Willard is being forced up into the Bay Division for football. They are not happy about it and have contacted other conferences. So far, no takers. His question was regarding the 2018 season. Everything I've seen on here has stated that Willard football will be part of an 8 school River division in 2018 (when Danbury and Gibsonburg join), and then when Hopewell-Loudon joins in 2019 the Willard football program will move up to the Bay division, where all their other sports are already. As for the Bay division in 2018, it will only have 5 official members, with everyone having the option to still play their game against Shelby as a non league matchup or find someone else that week. I understand, but I wasn't concerned with the year. The poster should now be aware of that As you know, everything in the statement is true and correct. Won't argue over the semantics.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 25, 2017 20:49:55 GMT -5
It remains that when Willard joined the NEW SBC they were told that they would be in the River Division for all sports. Of course no one said how long they'd be in the River. I bet they thought it was going to be for more than one year though.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 25, 2017 21:22:06 GMT -5
It remains that when Willard joined the NEW SBC they were told that they would be in the River Division for all sports What is your source for this? Everything I have seen since this 3 division SBC setup has been talked about has had Willard (and Margaretta) as members of the BAY division for all the other sports. The only sport in which those schools are in the River Division is football (with the possible exception of sports that might only have 2 divisions due some schools not having that sport, depending on what the 2 divisions are named in that case) Well, it is going to be for more than 1 year for Willard football in the River. 1. 2017 2. 2018
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Post by A no.1 on Sept 25, 2017 21:33:17 GMT -5
Didn't Huron reach out to play Shelby a few years ago for a week ten game with Shelby opting to stay with Loudonville?
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