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Post by sportsjock on May 29, 2018 19:11:22 GMT -5
Only change in the 3 active coaches in the top 25 is, Saban moving ahead of Bo Schembechler to #20 spot.
Top All-Time Major/FBS College Football Coaches by Winning Percentage (2017 results update)
1 Knute Rockne .881 105-12-5 Notre Dame 1918-1930
2 Frank Leahy .864 107-13-9 Boston College 1939-1940; Notre Dame 1941-1943, 1946-1953
3 Urban Meyer .851 177-31 Bowling Green 2001-2002; Utah 2003-2004; Florida 2005-2010; Ohio State 2012-present
4 George Woodruff .846 142-25-2 Penn 1892-1901; Illinois 1903; Carlisle 1905
5 Barry Switzer .837 157-29-4 Oklahoma 1973-1988
6 Tom Osborne .836 255-49-3 Nebraska 1973-1997
7 Fielding Yost (1) .833 198-35-12 Ohio Wesleyan 1897; Nebraska 1898; Kansas 1899; Stanford 1900; San Jose State 1900; Michigan 1901-1923, 1925-1926
8 Percy Haughton (2) .832 96-17-6 Cornell 1899-1900; Harvard 1908-1916; Columbia 1923-1924
9 Robert Neyland .829 173-31-12 Tennessee 1926-1934, 1936-1940, 1946-1952
10 Bud Wilkinson .826 145-29-4 Oklahoma 1947-1963
11 Chris Petersen .816 129-29 Boise State 2006-2013; Washington 2014-present
12 Jock Sutherland .812 144-28-14 Lafayette 1919-1923; Pittsburgh 1924-1938
13 Bob Devaney .806 136-30-7 Wyoming 1957-1961; Nebraska 1962-1972
14 Bob Stoops .798 190-48 Oklahoma 1999-2016
15 Frank Thomas .795 141-33-9 Chattanooga 1925-1928; Alabama 1931-1946
16 Henry Williams .786 141-34-12 Army 1891; Minnesota 1900-1921
17 Gil Dobie (3) .781 180-45-15 North Dakota State 1906-1907; Washington 1908-1916; Navy 1917-1919; Cornell 1920-1935; Boston College 1936-1938
18 Paul "Bear" Bryant .780 323-85-17 Maryland 1945; Kentucky 1946-1953; Texas A&M 1954-1957; Alabama 1958-1982
19 Fred Folsom (4) .779 106-28-6 Colorado 1895-1899, 1901-1902; Dartmouth 1903-1906; Colorado 1908-1915
20 Nick Saban (8) .777 223-62-1 Toledo 1990; Michigan State 1995-1999; Louisiana State 2000-2004; Alabama 2007-present
21 Bo Schembechler .775 234-65-8 Miami-Ohio 1963-1968; Michigan 1969-1989
22 Charlie Moran (5) .771 131-35-11 Texas A&M 1909-1914; Centre 1917-1923; Bucknell 1924-1926; Catawba 1930-1933
23 Fritz Crisler .768 116-32-9 Minnesota 1930-1931; Princeton 1932-1937; Michigan 1938-1947
24 Wallace Wade .765 171-49-10 Alabama 1923-1930; Duke 1931-1941, 1946-1950
25 Frank Kush .764 176-54-1 Arizona State 1958-1979
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Post by deathfromabove on May 31, 2018 1:02:00 GMT -5
I notice that there are 3 coaches in the top 25 that has coach at Michigan at one time or another and only 1 that has coached at Ohio State. And where is the great Woody Hayes at on the chart. Can anybody tell me that.
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Post by DrTorch on May 31, 2018 7:41:00 GMT -5
You can check the National Title Winners to find Woody.
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Post by sportsjock on May 31, 2018 8:50:44 GMT -5
I notice that there are 3 coaches in the top 25 that has coach at Michigan at one time or another and only 1 that has coached at Ohio State. And where is the great Woody Hayes at on the chart. Can anybody tell me that. Woody is well down the list with a .759 winning %, but well above Lloyd Carr at .753 Keep in mind, the complete list has a mix of coaches at lower divisions that have admirable accomplishments, but we are limiting this to major college football. Interesting Urban's 12-2 season kept him at .851 for the second consecutive year. Saban inched a percentage point or so closer to the great Bear Bryant (#18), still 3 percentage points to go, but creeping ever closer.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jun 1, 2018 12:10:32 GMT -5
I notice that there are 3 coaches in the top 25 that has coach at Michigan at one time or another and only 1 that has coached at Ohio State. And where is the great Woody Hayes at on the chart. Can anybody tell me that. Woody is well down the list with a .759 winning %, but well above Lloyd Carr at .753 Keep in mind, the complete list has a mix of coaches at lower divisions that have admirable accomplishments, but we are limiting this to major college football. Interesting Urban's 12-2 season kept him at .851 for the second consecutive year. Saban inched a percentage point or so closer to the great Bear Bryant (#18), still 3 percentage points to go, but creeping ever closer. There is also another thing that Woody has more of than Lloyd has and that's National Championships. Woody has 3 of them and Lloyd only has 1. Do you happen to know how many National Championships does Ohio State have in football. I know Michigan has 11 of them but still think that Notre Dame has the most. I think Nick Saban might pass Bear if not this year than next year.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Jun 1, 2018 19:24:47 GMT -5
Do you happen to know how many National Championships does Ohio State have in football. Short answer: 6 or 8, depending on how you count them, just like Michigan has anywhere from 2 to 11 depending on how you count them. Long answer: National championship claims are a complicated thing, and I made an extensive post on this subject earlier this year that I will now copy and paste here.... Regarding the Validity of National Championship Claims:IMO, There are essentially 4 "tiers" when it comes to CFB National Championship claims, based on which organization crowned the title. (Note, this post is strictly about validity of claims based on the selectors, and is not attempting to dive into the "pre-bowl vs. post bowl" issue, which was something that changed the way selectors picked their champions in the late 60's early 70's) Tier 1: AP Poll (1936-present) and Coaches Poll (1950-present - under several different names)This is the strictest method, and is what the majority of media organizations use. When you see ESPN list OSU as having 6 titles and UM as only having 2, this is what they are using. The following schools have multiple titles when counting this way: 12 - Alabama 8 - Notre Dame 7 - USC, Oklahoma 6 - Ohio State ('42 AP, '54 AP, '57 Coaches, '68 both, '02 both, '14 both) 5 - Miami, Nebraska 4 - Minnesota, Texas 3 - Florida, Florida State, LSU 2 - Michigan ('48 AP, '97 AP), Michigan State, Penn State, Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, Army Tier 2: The NCAA record book's "Consensus National Champions"The NCAA FBS record book includes a long list of what they call "Major Selectors" for National Championships, however they specify 4 Polls as being the selectors of "Consensus National Champions." These are the AP, Coaches Poll, Football Writers Association of America (which names an All-American team and presents several postseason awards including the Outland trophy), and National Football Foundation (which runs the College Football Hall of Fame.) Titles from one of these 4 selectors from 1950 on are marking in bold on the wikipedia list of FBS national champions: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBSOSU's extra 2 titles fall under this category. In 1961 Alabama won the AP, Coaches poll & NFF, but OSU won the FWAA. The FWAA's Grantland Rice Trophy is what OSU displays as it's 1961 National Title Trophy in the WHAC. In 1970 Nebraska won the AP & FWAA, Texas won the Coaches Poll, and the NFF decided to award both Texas and OSU a share of their championship. The NFF's trophy is called the MacArthur Bowl and is a singular trophy like the Stanley Cup with the champions engraved on the side, and it mainly stays at the College Football Hall of Fame. OSU has a replica of the trophy on display in the WHAC for 1970. Some other notable titles in this category are: 1958 Iowa (FWAA), 1960 Ole Miss (FWAA), 1964 Arkansas (FWAA), 1964 Notre Dame (NFF), 1966 Michigan State (NFF) Note: the FWAA and NFF merged their polls together in 2014, naming the poll after Grantland Rice and using the MacArthur Bowl as its trophy. Tier 3: Retroactive TitlesThe vast majority of national titles before the major poll era are retroactively applied, since there wasn't really much of a concept of a "national championship" before the 30's. Many organizations have gone back and looked at the records and named national champions from years that had long since passed into history. This is where the majority of Michigan's claim of 11 titles comes from, as well as things like Princeton and Yale each having 20+, Harvard having 7, and extra titles added to schools like Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Pitt, Penn State and many more. A combination of these first 3 "Tiers" is what the NCAA uses for their list of FBS National Champions: www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs (this NCAA list includes all 8 of OSU's claimed titles, but only 9 of Michigan's claimed 11) Tier 4: Anything and EverythingI mentioned above that the NCAA record book has a long list of "major selectors" which are various polls, computer rankings and retroactive titles.....and with so many of them almost every single year in college football history has multiple national champions listed. Some of the most bogus national title claims are made by schools who will claim each and every one of these titles they have been awarded (one example is Tennessee claiming 1967 based on one selector, when all 4 of the consensus polls picked USC) If each school claimed every single one of these titles they could, the list of schools with at least 5 NC's would look like this: 28 - Princeton 27 - Yale 22 - Alabama 22 - Notre Dame 17 - Oklahoma, USC 16 - Ohio State, Michigan 12 - Harvard 11 - Nebraska, Pittsburgh 9 - Miami, Minnesota, Texas 8 - Florida State, LSU 7 - Georgia Tech, Penn State, Tennessee 6 - Georgia, Michigan State, Penn 5 - Iowa, Army, Auburn, California, Cornell, Florida, Illinois For those curious, the extra 8 to get OSU to 16 would be: 1933, 1944, 1969, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1998, and 2006....most of which would be completely bogus to claim. The only one that could have some merit is the 9-0 1944 team, but OSU has enough respect to not try and claim part of a title that was won by Army during WW2.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jun 2, 2018 18:03:41 GMT -5
BB, Now I know why we are all so confuse when it comes to understanding the playoff system. You get a team in there who schedules a team from 1aa or less, to a team that schedules nothing but top notch schools, like Ohio State. To a team that is the only undefeated in the 1a and not get invited. We can't make up our minds on who was National Champions certain years in one poll and another team in a different poll. Please someone send a straight jacket to me and take me away.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 2, 2018 19:24:52 GMT -5
BB, Now I know why we are all so confuse when it comes to understanding the playoff system. You get a team in there who schedules a team from 1aa or less, to a team that schedules nothing but top notch schools, like Ohio State. To a team that is the only undefeated in the 1a and not get invited. We can't make up our minds on who was National Champions certain years in one poll and another team in a different poll. Please someone send a straight jacket to me and take me away. We know who the real 2017 National Champions are: U. of Central Florida 13-0, concluding with a win in the Peach Bowl over Auburn. (Thanks to hurricane Irma, they had 3 home games vs. Memphis, Georgia Tech & Maine cancelled, otherwise they would probably finished 16-0)
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Post by Birdman on Jun 5, 2018 11:06:28 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else, but I sure am ready for some saturday football again. BTN has been replaying classic college football games lately and I happened to catch "The Game" for the 2006 OSU Vs. TTUN.
I am wondering how this year will pan out for the BIG10 and the rest of the field in this great nation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 14:29:19 GMT -5
It’s Bama and everyone else, unfortunately
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Post by 4 on Jun 5, 2018 22:29:04 GMT -5
Disagree, they play a weak sec schedule as always. But I believe Clemson and Osu are right there with them. I’ll wait to see what Shea Patterson can do at ttun, they’re a step below but should be improved. Oklahoma will be good with Kyle Murray, Oregon has top rated qb in CFB so they may be pretty good if his team helps him. Can’t wait for football
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 6, 2018 6:41:22 GMT -5
Disagree, they play a weak sec schedule as always. But I believe Clemson and Osu are right there with them. I’ll wait to see what Shea Patterson can do at ttun, they’re a step below but should be improved. Oklahoma will be good with Kyle Murray, Oregon has top rated qb in CFB so they may be pretty good if his team helps him. Can’t wait for football Right on..... The college football world has been changing. Alabama is no longer the big elephant in the room and you need only look at the recruiting wars the past several years. Urban Meyer, Kirby Smart, Dabo Swinney and others are crowding Nick Saban for the lions share of the nation's most talented prospects. That fact is beginning to and will continue to show it's effect. The question becomes: Who is going to be the next 'Alabama'?......Ohio State? Clemson? Georgia?.......or someone we least suspect like Willie Taggart at FSU or Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma? I'm putting my money on Urban or Dabo to knock Saban off his lofty perch.
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Post by DrTorch on Jun 6, 2018 9:56:08 GMT -5
Funny thing about our next home and home vs TEX is it is possible neither current head coach is around for that series. I would peg Urb to dip before Saban.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 10:36:43 GMT -5
You disagree and then say Bama’s schedule is weak. That’s the reason why you aren’t getting around them. You can’t find 2 loses on their schedule; therefore they will be in the playoffs
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Post by deathfromabove on Jun 6, 2018 12:55:52 GMT -5
Hoss, Do you think that the powers to be might wise up after the mess that was created last year. You had UCF go undefeated, and the only D-1 team that was, and you had Ohio State who had a tougher schedule than Alabama and both of these schools was not invited to the show. Shoot, bama didn't even win their conference and they still were invited.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 6, 2018 16:42:58 GMT -5
Funny thing about our next home and home vs TEX is it is possible neither current head coach is around for that series. I would peg Urb to dip before Saban.You have zero basis to make such an assumption. Besides being 13 years and 3 mos. younger than Saban, Urban is looking more relaxed and comfortable than I have ever seen him. He is living his dream, coaching at his boyhood dream school, living in his home state he was born and grew up in and surrounded by family. Saban is far from his place of birth or boyhood home. (West Virginia/Pennsylvania). A final career move by Saban would not surprise. As I have stated many times, the age differential plays favorably for Urban to surpass Saban in a number of categories. No matter what happens, Urban and Saban have forever established themselves in the annals of all-time greatest coaches, with all due respect to Bear Bryant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 18:31:25 GMT -5
Hoss, Do you think that the powers to be might wise up after the mess that was created last year. You had UCF go undefeated, and the only D-1 team that was, and you had Ohio State who had a tougher schedule than Alabama and both of these schools was not invited to the show. Shoot, bama didn't even win their conference and they still were invited. Ohio State didn’t win their conference or division two years ago and were invited, so everything will stay the same. Committee sees it as Power 5 conference teams with the fewest losses.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 7, 2018 7:03:59 GMT -5
Hoss, Do you think that the powers to be might wise up after the mess that was created last year. You had UCF go undefeated, and the only D-1 team that was, and you had Ohio State who had a tougher schedule than Alabama and both of these schools was not invited to the show. Shoot, bama didn't even win their conference and they still were invited. Ohio State didn’t win their conference or division two years ago and were invited, so everything will stay the same. Committee sees it as Power 5 conference teams with the fewest losses. You're probably right, but perhaps it won't stay entirely the same, as there has been a significant amount of conveyance of disenchantment to the selection committee, especially from member schools of the AAC.
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Post by deathfromabove on Jun 7, 2018 11:35:22 GMT -5
Hoss, Do you think that the powers to be might wise up after the mess that was created last year. You had UCF go undefeated, and the only D-1 team that was, and you had Ohio State who had a tougher schedule than Alabama and both of these schools was not invited to the show. Shoot, bama didn't even win their conference and they still were invited. Ohio State didn’t win their conference or division two years ago and were invited, so everything will stay the same. Committee sees it as Power 5 conference teams with the fewest losses. You might be right on that. I guess I forgot that Ohio State didn't win the conference two years ago. Was that the year Wisconsin beat them. Also Thank You for your opinion on this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 16:49:28 GMT -5
Ohio State didn’t win their conference or division two years ago and were invited, so everything will stay the same. Committee sees it as Power 5 conference teams with the fewest losses. You might be right on that. I guess I forgot that Ohio State didn't win the conference two years ago. Was that the year Wisconsin beat them. Also Thank You for your opinion on this. Penn St beat them. Don’t even remember the last time Wisconsin beat them
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Post by deathfromabove on Jun 7, 2018 20:45:45 GMT -5
You might be right on that. I guess I forgot that Ohio State didn't win the conference two years ago. Was that the year Wisconsin beat them. Also Thank You for your opinion on this. Penn St beat them. Don’t even remember the last time Wisconsin eat the Thanks again. I completely forgot that Penn State went to the Rose Bowl as the Big10 champ. I do know that I ran out of fingers and toes to count on when the last time my Michigan team went to the Rose Bowl.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 8, 2018 6:52:20 GMT -5
Penn St beat them. Don’t even remember the last time Wisconsin eat the Thanks again. I completely forgot that Penn State went to the Rose Bowl as the Big10 champ. I do know that I ran out of fingers and toes to count on when the last time my Michigan team went to the Rose Bowl. The unwise decision to kick a FG in the waning seconds against PS, deprived the Buckeyes a shot at another Big Ten Championship.
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 2, 2018 11:11:01 GMT -5
The surprising game of the week has to be the Maryland Terrapins conquest of Texas 34-29.
Northwestern over Purdue in LaFayette is somewhat of a surprise and the final score leads one to believe it was closer than it really was.
Most Buckeye faithfull will be pulling for QB Joe Burrow have a big game and season for the Tigers. Miami, like last season, have high expectations as they head into 'Death Valley'. Come on Joe, knock these guys back into reality!
Anyone take note of Michigan State struggles with Utah State?
Monday night game between VT and Florida State should be a good one. Justin Fuentes has done a remarkable job, after taking over for Frank Beamer. I don't know how many years it's been since he retied, but when I think of VT, I think of Frank Beamer....one of the nicest guys in college football for so many years.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 2, 2018 12:24:25 GMT -5
Not that long ago I hoped Herman would replace Urban when he chose to retire. Not anymore. This could be another example of The Peter Principle.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 13:52:45 GMT -5
Don’t have to worry about putting Harbaugh on that list 😂
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 2, 2018 18:42:43 GMT -5
Don’t have to worry about putting Harbaugh on that list 😂 Who? By the time we get to the point of actually compiling a 'list' many years from now, there will be an entirely new 'list' of young and inspiring coaching candidates, most of whom we wouldn't even recognize today.
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 4, 2018 20:17:03 GMT -5
Good chance Willie Taggart is one and done at Florida $tate. Didn't get to see the game, but a common remark from those that did; very sloppy play by the Seminoles.
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Post by fbfan on Sept 15, 2018 18:24:27 GMT -5
Just watched Joe Burrow and #12 LSU beat #7 Auburn at Auburn. What a story it would be to see Ohio State meet LSU in the playoffs this year.
GO TIGERS!!
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 15, 2018 19:13:52 GMT -5
Joe Burrow looked calm, composed and confident throughout, especially in the final moments.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 22, 2018 18:25:07 GMT -5
#13 Virginia Tech just lost to 0-3 Old Dominion
ODU's losses were to Liberty, Florida International and Charlotte
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