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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 23, 2018 8:24:57 GMT -5
Shelby won last year 41-0
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Post by whippet4life on Sept 23, 2018 11:22:07 GMT -5
Shelby won last year 41-0 This will be a tough one for my whippets to win but i have faith in them. Hope the coach can get them to play at that high level, last two weeks have been tough on us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 12:57:23 GMT -5
Whippets really need this game, Not many playoff points to be had for them, in the last 4 games, Edison, Oak Harbor, Port Clinton, Vermilion.
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Post by dump on Sept 23, 2018 19:47:33 GMT -5
Love the tigers in this one. I know Hinckley and company have been waiting for this game since last season. As many of you know, Huron was winning that game last year until Tigers star Dominic Barnes was ejected from the game for targeting. He had two touchdowns at that point. Now that Barnes is playing in college, junior Paul Hinckley looks to get this going for the Tigers.
I know Shelby is traditionally a dumpster fire, I look for them to revert back to their ways in this one.
Tigers 35-14
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Post by maplecityjake on Sept 23, 2018 20:07:25 GMT -5
Aside from traditional dumpster fire comment, how was Huron winning when final was 41-0? As far as I know, Norwalk was the only one who had lead on Whippets at any point during regular season
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Post by richrod on Sept 23, 2018 20:57:16 GMT -5
Shelby is imploding, looks uninspired and lackadaisical
Huron 35- Shelby 14
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Post by utsherman on Sept 23, 2018 22:24:43 GMT -5
Hopefully Schwemley is back this week. They looked like garbage without him.
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Post by homewrecker on Sept 24, 2018 10:13:07 GMT -5
Too much credit for the last couple years went to Coach Will. When that credit should have gone to Dan Paragon for the skills he developed in the Hill/Brooks/Armstrong’s class back when those kids were young. Clear back as early as 4-5-6th grade that class was coached up to a much higher level in skills than other teams. The basketball program would have also been just as good those years if the Shelby coach would not have destroyed that team. Shelby was a mediocre program prior to that class and back to the mediocrity now that they are gone. With the easy first 3 games they could possibly go 5-5 or 6-4.
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Post by sweathog on Sept 24, 2018 12:20:42 GMT -5
Too much credit for the last couple years went to Coach Will. When that credit should have gone to Dan Paragon for the skills he developed in the Hill/Brooks/Armstrong’s class back when those kids were young. Clear back as early as 4-5-6th grade that class was coached up to a much higher level in skills than other teams. The basketball program would have also been just as good those years if the Shelby coach would not have destroyed that team. Shelby was a mediocre program prior to that class and back to the mediocrity now that they are gone. With the easy first 3 games they could possibly go 5-5 or 6-4. What skills were they taught? To be buttheads and have no discipline. One out of the 3 you mentioned listened, if they were taught something on football program the basketball coaches would not have to try and straighten them out when its time to play basketball !! Also maybe more players should have missed more games last year!!
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Post by homewrecker on Sept 24, 2018 12:32:22 GMT -5
Looks like I poked the Piggy
How do you think Armstrong came in at 14 years old in 9th grade good enough to start on Varsity. He learned skills at a young age.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 24, 2018 12:43:51 GMT -5
The truth is, regardless of who the head coach was, last year Shelby was blessed with 4 athletes that could not be replaced this year and equals might not be seen in a decade or longer and in the case of one, never.
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Post by whippet4life on Sept 24, 2018 13:21:33 GMT -5
The truth is, regardless of who the head coach was, last year Shelby was blessed with 4 athletes that could not be replaced this year and equals might not be seen in a decade or longer and in the case of one, never. Go play in your own sandbox DB. You have a situation in Willard only a fool would say is sound. You have a coach that has a kid almost die on his watch and you people act like he is some sort of savior. I saw where some of your cronies on here were saying that Willard could go 9-1 this year. I want to smoke some of that stuff you guys are smoking there. At least we don't dumb down our schedule to make it seem like we are better than we are. Wait until your team is in the bay next year and playing teams they should be playing, back to 0-10. We have good athletes but they are young but still good. Losing Schem is a killer for us, he makes a huge difference.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Sept 24, 2018 13:45:32 GMT -5
Despite his name, he's an Ontario fan, whippet4life, not a Willard fan.
And tell a fellow Shelby fan where he is incorrect in that quoted statement.
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Post by dump on Sept 24, 2018 14:26:46 GMT -5
I love it. The game hasn't even started yet and Shelby fans are already in disarray. Well guess what, your problems are going to be amplified after the Tigers run a train on your dumpy old whippets.
I am changing my predicition, 42-0 Tigers.
GO Tigers
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Post by homewrecker on Sept 24, 2018 14:29:52 GMT -5
Sweathog How could you make the comment that the seniors last year were buttheads and have no discipline. Did they not win 13 games in a row ? You have to be disciplined and coachable to do that.
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Post by homewrecker on Sept 24, 2018 14:34:56 GMT -5
The truth hurts sometimes. You have not built a dynasty with Shelby football. Just had some very good years lately. And give credit where it was do with that class that went through last year.
With that class Shelby had a legit shot at a state title last year in football. My opinion the coaching decision not to make any adjustments in the Stubenville game to combat their pass rush cost Shelby that game. Had Will put Bishop or Biglin back at fullback just to block there pass rush instead of letting Armstrong run for his life as soon as he got the ball every play Shelby should have been able to move the ball. Could have put one of them or even both of them if needed in the back field as blockers. Armstrong with more time could have picked apart at them with four or even only three receivers Carter Brooks, Uriah Schwemly, or Brady Hill in the passing game. Instead no adjustments were made they stayed with 5 receivers and didn’t get any of them the ball often enough. Shelby coaching failed that group, the talent level was there to win it all. But whats done is done we may as well drop it.
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Post by homewrecker on Sept 24, 2018 14:53:11 GMT -5
Let me make sure you understand my post. I am not on here to bash Coach Will. I am sure he would love a second chance at the Stubenville game. I do believe overall that he has done a good job with the talent available. They won 13 games in a row last year the man is doing something right. I like style of offense he runs. Shelby football went through some really lame years of coaching prior to him you should be glad to have him. I just don’t see the talent level he has to work with this year being anywhere close to the last couple years. Hence my statement Shelby is back to being an average team.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Sept 24, 2018 15:13:00 GMT -5
I posted this info in a previous thread:
Playoff Record from 2008-2017:
Bellevue - 9-6 Tiffin - 7-5 Clyde - 9-8
Ten years is long enough to determine the "what have you done for me lately" factor. Those schools maintained success for more than a 2-3 year window. I look to those schools as a comparable D3-D4 benchmark for success in our area. Until Shelby can put together a playoff season 50% of the time (and find ways to win games), I won't view ourselves as a perennial threat.
For the fun of it, during the same stretch, Huron is 3-5 and Shelby is 5-3 in playoff games.
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Post by MikeLong on Sept 24, 2018 15:54:01 GMT -5
Hey Dump, I remember last years Huron Shelby game as well. Let's just say I think things could have turned out differently if Barnes wasn't ejected. I miss watching that guy play he sure was talented. It's a shame he couldn't get it together in the class room. I mean the guy threw a chair at a high school employee. Certainly not the type of guy you build a program around.
On a football not I look for the Tigers to **** their way to victory. This Shelby team is imploding and Huron looks like one of the best teams in the state. Look for the running game to assert themselves early behind the likes of Hinckley and that talented offensive line. I wonder when Huron doubters piratefan and his buddy ignorant Williard Fillmore will jump on the bandwagon.
Go Tigers
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Post by homewrecker on Sept 24, 2018 16:15:56 GMT -5
Tigers will wreck homecoming for the whipped dogs
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Post by utsherman on Sept 24, 2018 16:28:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really understand the overreaction to the Whippets start thus far. They graduated probably the best class in school history, along with 15 total starters, returning only five on offense and two on defense. Young players all over the field. Breaking in a new quarterback. Totally retooling the defense. They gained some confidence to start the season with games against competition they were supposed to beat. They were physically overmatched and out-toughed against their chief rival, the Redmen. And without Schwemley, the jack-of-all-trades and athletic freak, they got their doors blown off by the Truckers. Did they look out-of-sorts, rattled, and lackadaisical in that game? Sure. But Norwalk is a nice team, with some DI dudes running around the field. Of course most thought it might be a borderline competitive game, but it wasn't. I think some people got caught reading the press clippings coming into the season. Regular season winning streaks and consecutive victories on the road, etc. Albert and Fisher did get some experience and a few gaudy stats against poor teams and backups in the 2nd halves of games last year, but it's totally different this year. This is about what most level-headed Shelby fans expected, in my opinion. A 3-2 record thus far. Hopefully they improve and remain competitive. I remember some Bellevue fans with a "the sky is falling" mentality after their blowout loss to the Whippets last year, and they ended up turning things around to have a very memorable season. Hopefully Shelby can do the same.
Speaking of the best class in school history, on Brennan's first carry on Saturday for UVA, after coming in for the injured starter (Perkins), he scampered for 34 yards. He ended up with 50 rushing yards on only two series. He's currently running the scout team. Glad to see he's doing so well. It will be interesting to see if they risk burning his redshirt.
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Post by richrod on Sept 24, 2018 19:46:18 GMT -5
I'll be curious if the whippets can maintain success with regular talent levels. That'll tell you where the program is.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Sept 24, 2018 20:59:23 GMT -5
Coach Will coached Shelby to two of the best seasons in school history and five games into the next season he’s getting grief because Shelby’s 3-2 and laid an egg in one game. Absurd behavior from a bunch that’s clearly been spoiled by success.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Sept 24, 2018 21:28:15 GMT -5
The truth is, regardless of who the head coach was, last year Shelby was blessed with 4 athletes that could not be replaced this year and equals might not be seen in a decade or longer and in the case of one, never. Go play in your own sandbox DB. You have a situation in Willard only a fool would say is sound. You have a coach that has a kid die on his watch and you people act like he is some sort of savior. I saw where some of your cronies on here were saying that Willard could go 9-1 this year. I want to smoke some of that stuff you guys are smoking there. At least we don't dumb down our schedule to make it seem like we are better than we are. Wait until your team is in the bay next year and playing teams they should be playing, back to 0-10. We have good athletes but they are young but still good. Losing Schem is a killer for us, he makes a huge difference. Absolutely no one died and Coach Devier was dismissed as party to the suit by the judge. Do a quick google search in the future before you accuse the next coach of having someone die on their watch. footballscoop.com/news/three-pieces-of-advice-tell-the-truth-tell-the-truth-and-tell-the-truth/
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Post by whippet4life on Sept 25, 2018 13:16:31 GMT -5
Go play in your own sandbox DB. You have a situation in Willard only a fool would say is sound. You have a coach that has a kid almost die on his watch and you people act like he is some sort of savior. I saw where some of your cronies on here were saying that Willard could go 9-1 this year. I want to smoke some of that stuff you guys are smoking there. At least we don't dumb down our schedule to make it seem like we are better than we are. Wait until your team is in the bay next year and playing teams they should be playing, back to 0-10. We have good athletes but they are young but still good. Losing Schem is a killer for us, he makes a huge difference. Absolutely no one died and Coach Devier was dismissed as party to the suit by the judge. Do a quick google search in the future before you accuse the next coach of having someone die on their watch. footballscoop.com/news/three-pieces-of-advice-tell-the-truth-tell-the-truth-and-tell-the-truth/The paper stated that he was the head coach when a player died, or am I wrong? He was not charged but the school that initially hired him later found out about this and dismissed him because it was on his watch. Sorry, I must be wrong and you are correct, correct?
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Sept 25, 2018 13:46:24 GMT -5
You are wrong. It never stated that the player died. It stated he'll have long-term medical issues.
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Post by homewrecker on Sept 25, 2018 13:49:04 GMT -5
Saw a post on the Shelby vs Bellevue thread from baldref saying this Shelby football team is a year away from being a solid scary team. Are you kidding me they will be even worse next year after Schwemely graduates. The only thing that may help their appearance of being good next year is moving to the MOAC. They would be a bottom dweller in the SBC I hear they are picking up Big Walnut to replace Willard next year is that correct? That will be a sanding.
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Post by utsherman on Sept 25, 2018 15:12:12 GMT -5
Yes, they did pick up Big Walnut. Will this game be a Norwayne type sanding, or...
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Post by footballfan on Sept 25, 2018 17:00:55 GMT -5
The truth is, regardless of who the head coach was, last year Shelby was blessed with 4 athletes that could not be replaced this year and equals might not be seen in a decade or longer and in the case of one, never. Hell even dump could of been the coach and still won games with the athletes they had last year. LOL
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Post by whippet4life on Sept 25, 2018 17:24:52 GMT -5
You are wrong. It never stated that the player died. It stated he'll have long-term medical issues.
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