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Post by xlegend on Apr 13, 2020 8:39:37 GMT -5
I see on Twitter that Willard is looking for a home game next year and away the following year. if they had any since they would either have Ontario or Sandusky. A no brainier for me.
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Post by truecrimson on Apr 13, 2020 11:27:30 GMT -5
As you astutely pointed out in a previous post, the number of shots a kid takes can greatly impact their %, both negatively and positively. Pure shooters typically, not always, need a few shots to find rythm and feel, and then can knock down 3 or 4 in a row, possibly 6 or 7 out of ten. Conversely, just because a kid hit 4 out of 10 3's on the season doesn't mean he's a great 3 point shooter. He could be, but I would want a much larger sampling before making that statement. The good thing is, all these kids should get more shots next year to prove themselves. if you guys are Banking on those other kids to bail us out then it's going to be a long season.we are only losing two all Ohio players.obove 500 is possible. But from what I've seen it won't be much over that. Let's see how good of a coach Joe is without his all Ohio player's.the guy shouldn't even be a coach with all the poop he covers up if you people only knew what I know.thats another reason we lost to cc. Jmo. Very interesting post from xlegend. Curious what happened from the games prior to the CC to now? You started the season out stating they would struggle (good assessment) and midway through the year they started posting TB up (thank you as that was my suggestion first and you fully supported it, I like your thinking too) and then they hit CC and got beat and now here we are. There is no doubt the MVP of that team was TB, hands down. There are articles floating everywhere about CP and his greatness yet the MVP of that team is overlooked, WHY? I sure hope the coaching staff put as much effort into getting TB looks from colleges as they did CP. Maybe if you get on Dan Woodlock's good side he would right a good story about the real MVP. But you aren't a KA so it likely won't happen.
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 13, 2020 12:19:05 GMT -5
That's a trash post TC. I was told Skeeter had a scholly offer to a CC in the Dayton area. I hope he gets it because he's got skills. What are his grades like?
What's the next thing----"so and so doesn't have the right last name?" Such a tired argument. Either you are a college level player or you are not. Either you are a college level STUDENT or you are not. btw---both are needed to play in college for the most part. It's the college head coach who get's to chose the student athlete he wants. It's not up to the HS head coach.
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Post by truecrimson on Apr 13, 2020 14:49:02 GMT -5
That's a trash post TC. I was told Skeeter had a scholly offer to a CC in the Dayton area. I hope he gets it because he's got skills. What are his grades like? What's the next thing----"so and so doesn't have the right last name?" Such a tired argument. Either you are a college level player or you are not. Either you are a college level STUDENT or you are not. btw---both are needed to play in college for the most part. It's the college head coach who get's to chose the student athlete he wants. It's not up to the HS head coach. Trash post because it is the truth? You sound butt hurt about this for some reason. Obviously, Xlegend has a totally different opinion and i was just adding my opinion. Is there a reason you didn’t trash his post? that’s BS that the coach can’t help place kids and you know it is BS. I would love you and x to have a discussion, he’ll set you straight since you know so much about his son.
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 13, 2020 15:07:33 GMT -5
It's a BS post because you are slamming CP and your saying bogus crap about the coach. Skeeter had a great year. We all hope the best for him and Cooper. Why do you need to slam Cooper? Because the press wrote a story about him once he decided on Marietta. Come on man, you're better than that. No need to hate on a HS kid like that.
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Post by truecrimson on Apr 13, 2020 15:17:24 GMT -5
It's a BS post because you are slamming CP and your saying bogus crap about the coach. Skeeter had a great year. We all hope the best for him and Cooper. Why do you need to slam Cooper? Because the press wrote a story about him once he decided on Marietta. Come on man, you're better than that. No need to hate on a HS kid like that. I didn’t start the conversation, x did. you can battle it out with him but i know you won’t. All I’m saying is there were two great players on that team but for some reason skeeter never gets the props. How many times have you criticized MP on here, i don’t have enough toes and fingers to count so don’t talk about criticism? Good for CP and wish him well. x will chime in here later tonight and we’ll see what response you have for him, none.
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 13, 2020 15:33:31 GMT -5
I criticized your infamous call that Myles was a D1 Hoopster. I was not alone in that thought either. Nobody said a thing bad about Myles. I have no beef with X. I get along fine with him and his son. I'll miss watching Skeeter play. What I'm not going to do is argue over who is better. They were both good and both got a ton of press. They'll both go down as two All Ohio players who had nice HS careers at WHS. Regarding the Coach and CC,,I'm sure he'd do a few things differently in hindsight. Coach Haas had a few games that one could say the same. It happens.
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Post by truecrimson on Apr 13, 2020 15:44:25 GMT -5
I criticized your infamous call that Myles was a D1 Hoopster. I was not alone in that thought either. Nobody said a thing bad about Myles. I have no beef with X. I get along fine with him and his son. I'll miss watching Skeeter play. What I'm not going to do is argue over who is better. They were both good and both got a ton of press. They'll both go down as two All Ohio players who had nice HS careers at WHS. Regarding the Coach and CC,,I'm sure he'd do a few things differently in hindsight. Coach Haas had a few games that one could say the same. It happens. If you say so about MP. For some reason he isn’t one of your favorites. X will have to chime in here later about the CC comments and he shouldn’t be coaching. obviously, he is much closer to the program and has information that has him ****** for some reason. its been fun, love the banter. up next, x’s turn.
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 13, 2020 15:48:36 GMT -5
I love what MP brings to the basketball floor for WHS. I wish he'd take his talents to the football field as well. He's got great skills.
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Post by xlegend on Apr 13, 2020 16:44:03 GMT -5
I criticized your infamous call that Myles was a D1 Hoopster. I was not alone in that thought either. Nobody said a thing bad about Myles. I have no beef with X. I get along fine with him and his son. I'll miss watching Skeeter play. What I'm not going to do is argue over who is better. They were both good and both got a ton of press. They'll both go down as two All Ohio players who had nice HS careers at WHS. Regarding the Coach and CC,,I'm sure he'd do a few things differently in hindsight. Coach Haas had a few games that one could say the same. It happens. If you say so about MP. For some reason he isn’t one of your favorites. X will have to chime in here later about the CC comments and he shouldn’t be coaching. obviously, he is much closer to the program and has information that has him wee wee for some reason. its been fun, love the banter. up next, x’s turn. I guess I shouldn't said what I said about coach b covering a lot of things up during the season and week prior to the cc game because im not going to air dirty laundry out on this board.those close to me and some are on this message board know exactly what I'm talking about. It goes as high as the whole administration.but once again I'm not going to say it here.skeeter does have offers but I think he's leaning toward a junior college.marietta wants him but junior college might be the right fit and no Its ts not because of grades he carries a 3.0. He's been on visits to multiple college's and with the covid19 it's been a task for him to come to a decision.as soon as he makes a decision I'll let you know.i wish he had another 20 to 30 lbs pounds on him lol.junior college's said they'll put it on him so after two years we might be looking to transfer but if everything else fails he'll always have that degree and that what matters the most.
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Post by xlegend on Apr 13, 2020 16:56:03 GMT -5
If you say so about MP. For some reason he isn’t one of your favorites. X will have to chime in here later about the CC comments and he shouldn’t be coaching. obviously, he is much closer to the program and has information that has him wee wee for some reason. its been fun, love the banter. up next, x’s turn. I guess I shouldn't said what I said about coach b covering a lot of things up during the season and week prior to the cc game because im not going to air dirty laundry out on this board.those close to me and some are on this message board know exactly what I'm talking about. It goes as high as the whole administration.but once again I'm not going to say it here.skeeter does have offers but I think he's leaning toward a junior college.marietta wants him but junior college might be the right fit and no Its ts not because of grades he carries a 3.0. He's been on visits to multiple college's and with the covid19 it's been a task for him to come to a decision.as soon as he makes a decision I'll let you know.i wish he had another 20 to 30 lbs pounds on him lol.junior college's said they'll put it on him so after two years we might be looking to transfer but if everything else fails he'll always have that degree and that what matters the most. college degree
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Post by truecrimson on Apr 13, 2020 17:12:29 GMT -5
If you say so about MP. For some reason he isn’t one of your favorites. X will have to chime in here later about the CC comments and he shouldn’t be coaching. obviously, he is much closer to the program and has information that has him wee wee for some reason. its been fun, love the banter. up next, x’s turn. I guess I shouldn't said what I said about coach b covering a lot of things up during the season and week prior to the cc game because im not going to air dirty laundry out on this board.those close to me and some are on this message board know exactly what I'm talking about. It goes as high as the whole administration.but once again I'm not going to say it here.skeeter does have offers but I think he's leaning toward a junior college.marietta wants him but junior college might be the right fit and no Its ts not because of grades he carries a 3.0. He's been on visits to multiple college's and with the covid19 it's been a task for him to come to a decision.as soon as he makes a decision I'll let you know.i wish he had another 20 to 30 lbs pounds on him lol.junior college's said they'll put it on him so after two years we might be looking to transfer but if everything else fails he'll always have that degree and that what matters the most. Good post and I applaud you for it, with a couple exceptions. If something happened and it was covered up, knowingly and the admin knew it and it broke the rules, shame on them for hiding it and they should be held accountable. I find it almost humorous how it is okay for one athletic program to be able to get away with murder but any other program they make an example from them. I think you spoke your mind earlier and it is too bad you are retracting those comments because i like it when you are honest and not caring about the fallout, you wear it better.
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 13, 2020 17:13:30 GMT -5
Skeeter has a very high ceiling . It was fun watching him play and the whole team for that matter. I started caring about hoops again. I think a lot of people feel the same way. I hope he gets a shot at the right school.
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Post by xlegend on Apr 13, 2020 17:32:50 GMT -5
I guess I shouldn't said what I said about coach b covering a lot of things up during the season and week prior to the cc game because im not going to air dirty laundry out on this board.those close to me and some are on this message board know exactly what I'm talking about. It goes as high as the whole administration.but once again I'm not going to say it here.skeeter does have offers but I think he's leaning toward a junior college.marietta wants him but junior college might be the right fit and no Its ts not because of grades he carries a 3.0. He's been on visits to multiple college's and with the covid19 it's been a task for him to come to a decision.as soon as he makes a decision I'll let you know.i wish he had another 20 to 30 lbs pounds on him lol.junior college's said they'll put it on him so after two years we might be looking to transfer but if everything else fails he'll always have that degree and that what matters the most. Good post and I applaud you for it, with a couple exceptions. If something happened and it was covered up, knowingly and the admin knew it and it broke the rules, shame on them for hiding it and they should be held accountable. I find it almost humorous how it is okay for one athletic program to be able to get away with murder but any other program they make an example from them. I think you spoke your mind earlier and it is too bad you are retracting those comments because i like it when you are honest and not caring about the fallout, you wear it better. your absolutely right.a kid makes a "silly" mistake during wrestling season and we lose a great coach in fox.accusations gets Hawkins fired but when it comes to hoops... crickets.
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Post by xlegend on Apr 13, 2020 18:03:03 GMT -5
Skeeter has a very high ceiling . It was fun watching him play and the whole team for that matter. I started caring about hoops again. I think a lot of people feel the same way. I hope he gets a shot at the right school. glad to see your back caring about hoops again.the cupboard isn't bare with trey and myles.if only Myles could develope a pull up jumper.he would be dangerous.teams are going to lay off on him.if trey developed a strong left hand then he'll be dangerous as well because he can shoot from anywhere.trey will get a lot of shots up this year as he should.they might not be a high high flying team but they'll still be fun to watch. I'm rooting for them to have a great year.
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Post by truecrimson on Apr 13, 2020 18:28:53 GMT -5
Good post and I applaud you for it, with a couple exceptions. If something happened and it was covered up, knowingly and the admin knew it and it broke the rules, shame on them for hiding it and they should be held accountable. I find it almost humorous how it is okay for one athletic program to be able to get away with murder but any other program they make an example from them. I think you spoke your mind earlier and it is too bad you are retracting those comments because i like it when you are honest and not caring about the fallout, you wear it better. your absolutely right.a kid makes a "silly" mistake during wrestling season and we lose a great coach in fox.accusations gets Hawkins fired but when it comes to hoops... crickets. And they wonder why people have a hard time believing them. You know they are lying when their mouth is moving.
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Post by dude on Apr 14, 2020 8:27:35 GMT -5
I was wondering if anyone would eventually credit TB as the leader of this team. Following from a far I heard at times that his play was more consistent and versatile while maybe other players had less impact in some games.
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 14, 2020 9:54:48 GMT -5
Skeeter is a good player. 6'8" long arms. Can handle the ball, can shoot, and he's athletic. In the right spot and environment in college--watch out. He has a high ceiling, like I said. Get him in a weight program where he can add muscle--it's Derek Fey 2.0
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Post by jimb on Apr 21, 2020 9:33:33 GMT -5
As you astutely pointed out in a previous post, the number of shots a kid takes can greatly impact their %, both negatively and positively. Pure shooters typically, not always, need a few shots to find rythm and feel, and then can knock down 3 or 4 in a row, possibly 6 or 7 out of ten. Conversely, just because a kid hit 4 out of 10 3's on the season doesn't mean he's a great 3 point shooter. He could be, but I would want a much larger sampling before making that statement. The good thing is, all these kids should get more shots next year to prove themselves. if you guys are Banking on those other kids to bail us out then it's going to be a long season.we are only losing two all Ohio players.obove 500 is possible. But from what I've seen it won't be much over that. Let's see how good of a coach Joe is without his all Ohio player's.the guy shouldn't even be a coach with all the poop he covers up if you people only knew what I know.thats another reason we lost to cc. Jmo. i smell a cover up. why would you lose to cc if there was a cover up? sounds like a kid got caught doing something and to try and make it as far as last year someone broke the rules of reporting this to the appropriate people? did the cover up cause the team to splinter and that was the reason they lost, not sure i'm following you here? you let the cat out of the bag, share. i saw where you said you don't like to air dirty laundry but if there was a major violation and they beat cc and it came out, imagine what cc would be doing right now, full blown investigation? did the incident happen before the tournament started?
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Post by jimb on Sept 8, 2020 21:48:42 GMT -5
Who was the coach that blew a gasket in the friendship gas station this week? I heard the guy went nuts and tried to get one of the clerks fired. Sounds like someone is setting a good example in the community, according to a player's parent that was in there at the time.
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Post by crimson5 on Sept 10, 2020 3:24:10 GMT -5
I'm keeping my expectations tempered a little because we are losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 10 years. Not saying our returnees cannot improve year over year,,but we have a lot of points/ rebounds to make up someplace. More spread out no doubt,,but I'm not sure who the go to guy is? I'll count on C5 to keep the WHS fans informed of how the summer goes. Been to a few open gyms (boy are they different from back in the day), not much else to see since most BB activity was canceled this summer. The few sessions I watched were attended by 4 (I think) kids from St. Paul that included both Winslow boys as well as a few from Buckeye Central and 1 from Seneca East I think. The Winslow boys are both nice players. For Willard, the biggest surprise to me was the Freshman Dawson kid. He's developing nicely and very well may contribute at the Varsity level this year. The Junior Cole Weiss also has grown another inch or so and put on a little bulk. He should compete for a starting position at the 4 spot. He's got a nice jumper as well. Pinkston was only there for one of the sessions, but looked good. He can take it to the rim better than most I've seen, especially in transition. Overall, for summer ball, I thought they looked decent. Offensive rebounding may be a challenge. With the exception of Myles, they all tend to drift to the perimeter and look for an open jumper. However, they do have some pretty good shooters in Paxton, Cok, Weiss, and Max Dawson. Adelman wasn't at any of the sessions, sure he is playing alot of summer baseball. I still think this team favors an uptempo style of play with a majority of the buckets coming in transition.
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Post by truecrimson on Sept 10, 2020 14:32:27 GMT -5
I'm keeping my expectations tempered a little because we are losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 10 years. Not saying our returnees cannot improve year over year,,but we have a lot of points/ rebounds to make up someplace. More spread out no doubt,,but I'm not sure who the go to guy is? I'll count on C5 to keep the WHS fans informed of how the summer goes. Been to a few open gyms (boy are they different from back in the day), not much else to see since most BB activity was canceled this summer. The few sessions I watched were attended by 4 (I think) kids from St. Paul that included both Winslow boys as well as a few from Buckeye Central and 1 from Seneca East I think. The Winslow boys are both nice players. For Willard, the biggest surprise to me was the Freshman Dawson kid. He's developing nicely and very well may contribute at the Varsity level this year. The Junior Cole Weiss also has grown another inch or so and put on a little bulk. He should compete for a starting position at the 4 spot. He's got a nice jumper as well. Pinkston was only there for one of the sessions, but looked good. He can take it to the rim better than most I've seen, especially in transition. Overall, for summer ball, I thought they looked decent. Offensive rebounding may be a challenge. With the exception of Myles, they all tend to drift to the perimeter and look for an open jumper. However, they do have some pretty good shooters in Paxton, Cok, Weiss, and Max Dawson. Adelman wasn't at any of the sessions, sure he is playing alot of summer baseball. I still think this team favors an uptempo style of play with a majority of the buckets coming in transition. I think you'll see more team ball this year. Nothing wrong with last year's group, just having 2 players with 80% of the touches kinda pushes others to watch more than get in the flow. Have not seen the young dawson kid play but I would caution sending a freshman to varsity too early, does something to their ability to grow into the game at the high school level, it can backfire. Having more kids involved and having the paxton kid at point seeing the floor is a good thing. I like paxton at 1 and using the sallee (spelling??) kid as his backup, moves good with the ball and is quick and has some height. Got some good outside shooters on the team this year and that is a whole lot different game plan than the last 3-4 years when we had kids 6'8"-6'10".
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Post by crimson5 on Sept 20, 2020 19:00:07 GMT -5
Hey, I have a good idea. Let's push talented kids away from the program because they don't show up for 6:00AM shoot around twice a week. Better yet, lets threaten them with idiotic comments about how these off season workouts determine who plays JV and who plays Varsity. Especially in the midst of football season. I wonder if ALL the kids get to hear the same speech. The kids that don't show up for open gyms because of other committments like other sports, jobs, etc. I highly doubt it.
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Post by dude on Sept 21, 2020 10:46:44 GMT -5
I'm keeping my expectations tempered a little because we are losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 10 years. Not saying our returnees cannot improve year over year,,but we have a lot of points/ rebounds to make up someplace. More spread out no doubt,,but I'm not sure who the go to guy is? I'll count on C5 to keep the WHS fans informed of how the summer goes. Been to a few open gyms (boy are they different from back in the day), not much else to see since most BB activity was canceled this summer. The few sessions I watched were attended by 4 (I think) kids from St. Paul that included both Winslow boys as well as a few from Buckeye Central and 1 from Seneca East I think. The Winslow boys are both nice players. I had heard schools were only allowed to have inter-school open gyms. Having kids from 4 schools in a gym together was not allowed. Has this changed?
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Post by truecrimson on Sept 21, 2020 19:49:15 GMT -5
Hey, I have a good idea. Let's push talented kids away from the program because they don't show up for 6:00AM shoot around twice a week. Better yet, lets threaten them with idiotic comments about how these off season workouts determine who plays JV and who plays Varsity. Especially in the midst of football season. I wonder if ALL the kids get to hear the same speech. The kids that don't show up for open gyms because of other committments like other sports, jobs, etc. I highly doubt it. This is the dumbest thing I have read in quite some time. So what you are saying is active players in a current sport are being threatened with playing time in basketball for not showing up for 6:00 AM shooting? This comes down to one thing, a selfish mentality for the sport currently being played. You have to love how a coach cares only for the success of their program with comments like this. Lights, camera, action. Does the AD have any control in this school over this ignorant, self serving attitude.
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Post by truecrimson on Sept 21, 2020 19:50:43 GMT -5
Been to a few open gyms (boy are they different from back in the day), not much else to see since most BB activity was canceled this summer. The few sessions I watched were attended by 4 (I think) kids from St. Paul that included both Winslow boys as well as a few from Buckeye Central and 1 from Seneca East I think. The Winslow boys are both nice players. I had heard schools were only allowed to have inter-school open gyms. Having kids from 4 schools in a gym together was not allowed. Has this changed? Rules don’t apply in Willard, you should know that.
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Post by dude on Sept 22, 2020 9:35:13 GMT -5
I had heard schools were only allowed to have inter-school open gyms. Having kids from 4 schools in a gym together was not allowed. Has this changed? Rules don’t apply in Willard, you should know that. We all know this but we still wonder why.
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Post by creekratz on Nov 13, 2020 14:13:10 GMT -5
Hey, I have a good idea. Let's push talented kids away from the program because they don't show up for 6:00AM shoot around twice a week. Better yet, lets threaten them with idiotic comments about how these off season workouts determine who plays JV and who plays Varsity. Especially in the midst of football season. I wonder if ALL the kids get to hear the same speech. The kids that don't show up for open gyms because of other committments like other sports, jobs, etc. I highly doubt it. your talking about a coach that sits a player for a whole game last year for missing a 6am shoot around. He only picks on the ones that has ability.if it's the 8 9 or 10th guy...that kid wouldn't be threatened. But that's this coaches Identity in a nut shell. he gets out coached in big games and covers things up if he can get away with it as he did last year.your in for a long year with this guy.good luck
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Post by Kokomo on Nov 13, 2020 15:38:39 GMT -5
Looking forward to watching these young men this year. Alongside Coach B and Hirsch. It amazes me to see these comments. Obviously they are past players or parents who didn’t like Coach or his ways. I know he has dealt w players attitudes for 3 yrs now. Unfortunately being the best of his talent. I’m not a fan of 6am workouts. As the only time Haas had us come in at 6_am was to begin running because someone got a Technical foul over the weekend. I only had 1. Shew. Anyways. If it’s the Coaches policy then you should follow it. It’s shooting. Hell I probably would of never been late to school if I could get up and go shoot in gym before school. Good luck this Flashes!!!
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Post by dude on Nov 14, 2020 7:39:02 GMT -5
Looking forward to watching these young men this year. Alongside Coach B and Hirsch. It amazes me to see these comments. Obviously they are past players or parents who didn’t like Coach or his ways. I know he has dealt w players attitudes for 3 yrs now. Unfortunately being the best of his talent. I’m not a fan of 6am workouts. As the only time Haas had us come in at 6_am was to begin running because someone got a Technical foul over the weekend. I only had 1. Shew. Anyways. If it’s the Coaches policy then you should follow it. It’s shooting. Hell I probably would of never been late to school if I could get up and go shoot in gym before school. Good luck this Flashes!!! You mention a Haas coaching moment but this guy is working under the Nossaman experience. Haas did not guide this coach as he did the previous two.
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