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Post by dude on Dec 1, 2020 9:22:16 GMT -5
I get where you’re coming from on kids/teenagers but school are struggling with bus drivers, aides, cooks, custodians, secretaries and teachers. If they can’t operate from 8-3 it seems odd to open up from 3-9 for EXTRA-curricular. The difference is instead of being around 20 adults all day, a few of whom might be infected, they're only around their coach. Our district is struggling right now with employees testing positive and then kids getting sent home due to contact tracings, it's not so much the kids who are positive (at least in our district). Our county health commissioner has actually urged Superintendents to keep kids in school, where they can follow mandates and you know where they are most of the day. If you go remote, kids tend to gather with other kids throughout the day and not use safety measures. Just my opinion. Some schools are going remote to eliminate the contact tracing. Some health departments are now telling people with positive tests to do their own contact tracing and call those they have been around for the last 48 hours. As I've said before, many businesses have no policy for contact tracing, only a positive test.
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Post by mcm1019 on Dec 1, 2020 9:31:56 GMT -5
I believe the Health Dept is so over-whelmed that they cannot always make those phone calls, and leave it up to the individual. And I agree, by going remote you eliminate the need to contact trace.
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Post by falcon87 on Dec 1, 2020 9:51:20 GMT -5
The kids are not testing positive because parents are not getting them tested unless they exhibit severe symptoms which seems less likely in teen and young adults. I do believe we are dealing with a different beasts when we compare those in their teens to those in their 50’s.
At the same time 1 adult running a practice let alone sanitizing the building and driving the bus as well is far fetched. The optics of closed 8-3 and open 3-9 still looks bad.
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Post by mcm1019 on Dec 1, 2020 10:31:46 GMT -5
The kids are not testing positive because parents are not getting them tested unless they exhibit severe symptoms which seems less likely in teen and young adults. I do believe we are dealing with a different beasts when we compare those in their teens to those in their 50’s. At the same time 1 adult running a practice let alone sanitizing the building and driving the bus as well is far fetched. The optics of closed 8-3 and open 3-9 still looks bad. The optics might look bad, but it's all about being flexible and making it work (welcome to 2020). I think a worse look is a kid that opts to do remote learning instead of in-person, and then goes to practice at the end of the day. Unfortunately, I think the gov't is going to make the decision for us soon.
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Post by falcon87 on Dec 1, 2020 11:08:54 GMT -5
The kids are not testing positive because parents are not getting them tested unless they exhibit severe symptoms which seems less likely in teen and young adults. I do believe we are dealing with a different beasts when we compare those in their teens to those in their 50’s. At the same time 1 adult running a practice let alone sanitizing the building and driving the bus as well is far fetched. The optics of closed 8-3 and open 3-9 still looks bad. The optics might look bad, but it's all about being flexible and making it work (welcome to 2020). I think a worse look is a kid that opts to do remote learning instead of in-person, and then goes to practice at the end of the day. Unfortunately, I think the gov't is going to make the decision for us soon. I agree if you want to play and school is in session you are there and that goes for this home school and play pre-2020. I am all for 5 days a week with limited attendance athletics right now BUT we are seeing schools running out of staff and substitutes, then what? Does the govt have guts enough to attempt a full shutdown?
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Post by dude on Dec 1, 2020 11:27:42 GMT -5
The kids are not testing positive because parents are not getting them tested unless they exhibit severe symptoms which seems less likely in teen and young adults. I do believe we are dealing with a different beasts when we compare those in their teens to those in their 50’s. At the same time 1 adult running a practice let alone sanitizing the building and driving the bus as well is far fetched. The optics of closed 8-3 and open 3-9 still looks bad. The optics might look bad, but it's all about being flexible and making it work (welcome to 2020). I think a worse look is a kid that opts to do remote learning instead of in-person, and then goes to practice at the end of the day. Unfortunately, I think the gov't is going to make the decision for us soon. The reason for the remote learning for many is to eliminate contract tracing and healthy people being forced to quarantine.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2020 12:16:07 GMT -5
Simmer. I don't think anyone on hear supporting or discouraging winter sports is going to have any impact on what is decided. OBVIOUSLY, you never have an impact on anything of worth.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2020 12:23:51 GMT -5
I get where you’re coming from on kids/teenagers but school are struggling with bus drivers, aides, cooks, custodians, secretaries and teachers. If they can’t operate from 8-3 it seems odd to open up from 3-9 for EXTRA-curricular. The difference is instead of being around 20 adults all day, a few of whom might be infected, they're only around their coach. Our district is struggling right now with employees testing positive and then kids getting sent home due to contact tracings, it's not so much the kids who are positive (at least in our district). Our county health commissioner has actually urged Superintendents to keep kids in school, where they can follow mandates and you know where they are most of the day. If you go remote, kids tend to gather with other kids throughout the day and not use safety measures. Just my opinion. EXACTLY...it's not students infecting those that work at schools. It's the teachers and others infecting the kids. A PROVEN FACT. Ask the school how many students AND teachers have tested positive. When the student/teacher ratio is around 20-1, AND there are twice as many teachers compared to students that test positive, it means the infection ratio is 40-1, teacher to students. DO NOT blame the students, which educators do WAY too often.
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Post by falcon87 on Dec 1, 2020 14:24:22 GMT -5
The difference is instead of being around 20 adults all day, a few of whom might be infected, they're only around their coach. Our district is struggling right now with employees testing positive and then kids getting sent home due to contact tracings, it's not so much the kids who are positive (at least in our district). Our county health commissioner has actually urged Superintendents to keep kids in school, where they can follow mandates and you know where they are most of the day. If you go remote, kids tend to gather with other kids throughout the day and not use safety measures. Just my opinion. EXACTLY...it's not students infecting those that work at schools. It's the teachers and others infecting the kids. A PROVEN FACT. Ask the school how many students AND teachers have tested positive. When the student/teacher ratio is around 20-1, AND there are twice as many teachers compared to students that test positive, it means the infection ratio is 40-1, teacher to students. DO NOT blame the students, which educators do WAY too often. You may be correct so give me a link to articles or research on this PROVEN FACT. I like to see scientific research vs blow hard politicians from both ends of the spectrum feeding us their views
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2020 18:52:16 GMT -5
The schools I have relatives attending or know employees at or have seen stats in the media are all the same....more teachers/employees testing positive than students. You need to do the research and become learned on your own
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Post by falcon87 on Dec 1, 2020 19:28:24 GMT -5
The schools I have relatives attending or know employees at or have seen stats in the media are all the same....more teachers/employees testing positive than students. You need to do the research and become learned on your own And what I know is that groups of parents have been clear they won’t get their kids tested in effort to avoid quarantine of their respective teams. These kids sometimes spend a couple days in bed, were ill before leaving school and come back quicker than people who are tested. My info tells me this might be where cooks, custodians, bus drivers, aides and teachers may be getting the virus. These people out of tremendous precaution often get tested with borderline symptoms for fear of being the spreader and harming their coworkers and the students. Certainly not a conclusive study but part of the facts behind the stats.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2020 19:56:37 GMT -5
What I know is the many parents I know have offered to test their athlete every day so they can compete. You know the wrong parents in the wrong school district. The cooks, custodians, bus drivers, aides and teachers are picking up the virus out side of school then coming to school and giving it to the students
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Post by falcon87 on Dec 1, 2020 20:33:21 GMT -5
What I know is the many parents I know have offered to test their athlete every day so then compete. You know the wrong parents in the wrong school district. The cooks, custodians, bus drivers aides, teachers are picking up the virus out side of school then coming to school and giving it to the students I’ll choose to believe both scenarios, yours and mine, along with a few others are happening. I hope it works out for all involved. Personally my first close COVID death just occurred, hope it’s the last.
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Post by dude on Dec 1, 2020 20:43:42 GMT -5
What an amazing press release. On the day when kingmartinez was wanting sports shut down, they announce they are reducing the quarantine period for people who have been contact traced to a positive test.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 2, 2020 10:52:12 GMT -5
AND Richland County Health department has turned over contact tracing to the individuals that test positive. ALSO we find out that in the past the Health Department hasn't gotten around to notifying everyone who has been in contact with someone testing positive! Is there any wonder Richland County has such a surge in cases of THE virus?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 18:02:18 GMT -5
AND Richland County Health department has turned over contact tracing to the individuals that test positive. ALSO we find out that in the past the Health Department hasn't gotten around to notifying everyone who has been in contact with someone testing positive! Is there any wonder Richland County has such a surge in cases of THE virus? I've been reading this thread. Can't help but wonder. Are you always this negative and angry sounding or is it just a forum thing. Hope you find some positivity my man. But to your point, they are dealing with so much of the tracing and contacting they can't get other work done. That's why they put it on the individuals to contact people. Ontario bball should be good this year that oughta help
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 5, 2020 18:33:07 GMT -5
FACTS are never negative or angry. However, people can be angered by reading them.
Another FACT, they added people to the staff at the Richland Country Health Department to handle contact tracing....maybe they got the virus.
Since Balogh, Ontario almost always has a good bball team. Another one of those things that President Adams said are stubborn.
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