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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 12, 2020 18:06:35 GMT -5
Sounds likes this is picking up speed after OHSAA survey to schools today.
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Post by dude on Nov 12, 2020 21:57:21 GMT -5
Sounds likes this is picking up speed after OHSAA survey to schools today. Picking up speed? Wasn't the survey sent out today? Very similar to the one that was sent out for fall sports. I have only spoken with a few admins but they feel starting on time and taking advantage of every game they can is the best option. Waiting until Jan does not give you anything. The
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Post by usramfan on Nov 13, 2020 7:50:16 GMT -5
It's obviously something that is at least being considered or else they wouldn't have sent that survey link to schools. My fear is that if the start were pushed back, winter sports may never get off the ground because there's no guarantee that things will be better at that time.
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2020 8:26:29 GMT -5
It's obviously something that is at least being considered or else they wouldn't have sent that survey link to schools. My fear is that if the start were pushed back, winter sports may never get off the ground because there's no guarantee that things will be better at that time. It is a similar survey to the one for the fall with questions. Here is a question for everyone. Does anyone have a workplace, other than a school, that is treating the virus and contact tracing like our kids are being treated? Meaning, if you work next someone who tests positive you receive a notice from your county health department and must quarantine in your home for a period of 14 days.
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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 13, 2020 10:47:43 GMT -5
It's obviously something that is at least being considered or else they wouldn't have sent that survey link to schools. My fear is that if the start were pushed back, winter sports may never get off the ground because there's no guarantee that things will be better at that time. It is a similar survey to the one for the fall with questions. Here is a question for everyone. Does anyone have a workplace, other than a school, that is treating the virus and contact tracing like our kids are being treated? Meaning, if you work next someone who tests positive you receive a notice from your county health department and must quarantine in your home for a period of 14 days. I’m going to predict the answer: Government job where productivity isn’t required/measured then yes. Private company where making money equals staying open then no.
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 13, 2020 11:02:10 GMT -5
It's obviously something that is at least being considered or else they wouldn't have sent that survey link to schools. My fear is that if the start were pushed back, winter sports may never get off the ground because there's no guarantee that things will be better at that time. It is a similar survey to the one for the fall with questions. Here is a question for everyone. Does anyone have a workplace, other than a school, that is treating the virus and contact tracing like our kids are being treated? Meaning, if you work next someone who tests positive you receive a notice from your county health department and must quarantine in your home for a period of 14 days. Yes - I do know of multiple factories that are quarantining the same as schools. The only entity that can quarantine is the Health Department. No one else has that authority.
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2020 11:16:56 GMT -5
It is a similar survey to the one for the fall with questions. Here is a question for everyone. Does anyone have a workplace, other than a school, that is treating the virus and contact tracing like our kids are being treated? Meaning, if you work next someone who tests positive you receive a notice from your county health department and must quarantine in your home for a period of 14 days. Yes - I do know of multiple factories that are quarantining the same as schools. The only entity that can quarantine is the Health Department. No one else has that authority. That's true about the Health Dept but you do know of a factory that is sending employees home to self quarantine for 14 days because they worked with someone who tested positive. The closest I can find was a factory that asked an office employee work from home for a week but did not notify the health Dept. That same company has a policy of make your own decisions on the factory floor. Most companies I know of have a policy to excuse those with a positive test and other than that you are at work.
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 13, 2020 12:48:07 GMT -5
Yes - I do know of multiple factories that are quarantining the same as schools. The only entity that can quarantine is the Health Department. No one else has that authority. That's true about the Health Dept but you do know of a factory that is sending employees home to self quarantine for 14 days because they worked with someone who tested positive. The closest I can find was a factory that asked an office employee work from home for a week but did not notify the health Dept. That same company has a policy of make your own decisions on the factory floor. Most companies I know of have a policy to excuse those with a positive test and other than that you are at work. Yes I do. Multiple. There is some discretion going on. The person who tests positive has to either share names of those who they've come in contact with or the company has to. It's not airtight and I could where $$$ could get in the way of doing what's required but it is happening.
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Post by Kokomo on Nov 13, 2020 13:51:33 GMT -5
My daughter works in a hospital as a respiratory therapist so she’s knee-deep in this deadly virus. She has been around several workers who have tested positive for COVID-19 she has never ever been sent home or told to quarantine. And not to mention many many patients who have tested positive for Covid. I am in and out of homes for my job and I have been in many Covid positive homes. Yet I have never been asked to stay home in quarantine. On another note this summer my daughter played two months of basketball in Indiana and in Georgia and not one damn outbreak. Multiple teams that played in Indiana also traveled to Georgia to play. We need to stop the crap. Enough is enough let the damn kids play if they’re sick stay home and lets move on.
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 13, 2020 14:17:40 GMT -5
I am no expert but I do know there is a threshold for direct contact. 6' for 15 minutes, I believe. Many people think if they cross paths with someone who tests positive then that means they've had direct contact. That's simply not the case. The thing about those in the hospitals are twofold - 1. essential workers 2. equipped with safe PPE. That would be my guess why they are not quarantining like us average Joes.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 13, 2020 14:31:36 GMT -5
"The thing about those in the hospitals". They are either older or unhealthy people who in essence tried to commit suicide by being stupid. OR younger people who didn't care and thus put older or unhealthy relatives or friends in the hospital. NONE of which has anything to do with high school athletes
Just what in the heck is the difference between starting the season the first of December versus a month later on the first of January??
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 13, 2020 14:38:22 GMT -5
That's true about the Health Dept but you do know of a factory that is sending employees home to self quarantine for 14 days because they worked with someone who tested positive. The closest I can find was a factory that asked an office employee work from home for a week but did not notify the health Dept. That same company has a policy of make your own decisions on the factory floor. Most companies I know of have a policy to excuse those with a positive test and other than that you are at work. Yes I do. Multiple. There is some discretion going on. The person who tests positive has to either share names of those who they've come in contact with or the company has to. It's not airtight and I could where $$$ could get in the way of doing what's required but it is happening. OR they can make a mistake or make up names they came in contact with. OR not give the name of a friend.
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 13, 2020 14:52:19 GMT -5
LOL - yes. Sorry - that was implied.
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Post by Kokomo on Nov 13, 2020 15:26:17 GMT -5
Just recently my daughter and 2 other players have been quarantined since they heavily guarded a girl w Covid. Of course I wasn’t happy. But I’ll take this action rather than a whole team quarantined.
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2020 21:09:46 GMT -5
That's true about the Health Dept but you do know of a factory that is sending employees home to self quarantine for 14 days because they worked with someone who tested positive. The closest I can find was a factory that asked an office employee work from home for a week but did not notify the health Dept. That same company has a policy of make your own decisions on the factory floor. Most companies I know of have a policy to excuse those with a positive test and other than that you are at work. Yes I do. Multiple. There is some discretion going on. The person who tests positive has to either share names of those who they've come in contact with or the company has to. It's not airtight and I could where $$$ could get in the way of doing what's required but it is happening. I do not know of one factory doing contact tracing and requiring a location worker to quarantine for 14 days. This also includes people I know working in hospitals.
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Post by crimson5 on Nov 13, 2020 22:19:51 GMT -5
Yes I do. Multiple. There is some discretion going on. The person who tests positive has to either share names of those who they've come in contact with or the company has to. It's not airtight and I could where $$$ could get in the way of doing what's required but it is happening. I do not know of one factory doing contact tracing and requiring a location worker to quarantine for 14 days. This also includes people I know working in hospitals. Then you are a bit sheltered or don't know very many people. I sit here tonight, at home, when I should be at work, because of 3rd person contact tracing, that my company has been doing for months (6 months). Not just my company, but many companies in the area. We are a $14B company with no contracts with the government. Do I agree with it? Not sure....but I understand it. I've be told to not report to work because a person my son has been in contact with has tested positive. My son has been told he cannot go to school for the next 10 days, nor attend BB practice. There are 40 other boys in the same situation. My company has been doing this for several months, and has sent over 100 people home for the exact reason. We have shut down lines and suffered financially because of this policy. Again, do I agree with it?.....not sure.....but I understand it.
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2020 22:33:00 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about you son and his football mates, But I travel and go in and out of places every week. What you are describing is not even close to being the normal policy. Most employers tell their employees to stay home when sick but contact tracing at a workplace is not a common practice. Healthy people are being kept in their homes for no reason.
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Post by crimson5 on Nov 13, 2020 22:47:06 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about you son and his football mates, But I travel and go in and out of places every week. What you are describing is not even close to being the normal policy. Most employers tell their employees to stay home when sick but contact tracing at a workplace is not a common practice. Healthy people are being kept in their homes for no reason. I agree totally. Son is fine, thx for your comments. I do think we are outta control, with regard to the overly cautious rules being administered. It's difficult to be outspoken about it when our employers watch our every word on social media. My point is/was, that some...maybe more than your aware of, are doing some contact tracing trying to prevent the spread.
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Post by dude on Nov 13, 2020 22:52:54 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about you son and his football mates, But I travel and go in and out of places every week. What you are describing is not even close to being the normal policy. Most employers tell their employees to stay home when sick but contact tracing at a workplace is not a common practice. Healthy people are being kept in their homes for no reason. I agree totally. Son is fine, thx for your comments. I do think we are outta control, with regard to the overly cautious rules being administered. It's difficult to be outspoken about it when our employers watch our every word on social media. My point is/was, that some...maybe more than your aware of, are doing some contact tracing trying to prevent the spread. So far this month I have been in 5 companies doing business and all have employees out from a positive test. None have any quarantined without a positive. Before this month I had not asked anyone so I cannot speak for where I have been but I have asked friends and family about their place of work.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 14, 2020 1:40:53 GMT -5
Isn't up to the health departments to do the contact tracing? They know who has tested positive. They notify schools, employers and families if a student, teacher, employee or family member has been contact traced. In most cases those who have been contact traced are told to quarantine. Granted, no one is put in jail or fined if they don't quarantine. The vast majority want to do the right thing.
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 15, 2020 18:59:17 GMT -5
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Post by dude on Nov 15, 2020 21:09:40 GMT -5
How is Kentucky doing? Or Indiana? Pennsylvania?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 16, 2020 12:52:07 GMT -5
Surprised it took Gretchen this long to influence the MHSAA.
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Post by wallacefan on Nov 16, 2020 13:37:51 GMT -5
How is Kentucky doing? Or Indiana? Pennsylvania? Can't speak for those, but on Friday West Virginia shut down all school sports until January 11th to get through the holidays.
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Post by edchambers on Nov 17, 2020 14:08:06 GMT -5
It appears that Toledo Public Schools will be pausing winter sports until January or February.
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Post by dude on Nov 17, 2020 14:52:51 GMT -5
It appears that Toledo Public Schools will be pausing winter sports until January or February. Wooster announced they were not playing fall sports until Oct and they played 5 football games in Sept and Aug.
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Post by unc4life on Nov 17, 2020 16:26:40 GMT -5
Love to see the schools shutting down now that fall sports are done. Days after Madison girls soccer win state..high school goes online...now Lucas, football is over, shut down for the rest of the year.
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Post by smitty1974 on Nov 17, 2020 19:11:36 GMT -5
if toledo public schools are wont play winter sports until january then they will have a season,but if its february,then most of their season will be lost and mostly likely they wont be able make the games up
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Post by kingmartinez on Nov 18, 2020 13:36:58 GMT -5
Looks like they will push forward, as announced by the OHSAA today. Hopefully they are able to do it successfully (and safely).
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Post by dude on Nov 19, 2020 10:07:52 GMT -5
Looks like they will push forward, as announced by the OHSAA today. Hopefully they are able to do it successfully (and safely). Many of us have been saying it for months. If you don't feel safe, stay home.
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