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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 8:20:42 GMT -5
Wondering if Coach Irish was there, Blue Streaks 3-3 With Coach Irish, 4-0 With Coach Moore, Just say'n.
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Post by spinnaker on Jan 30, 2021 10:04:53 GMT -5
Wondering if Coach Irish was there, Blue Streaks 3-3 With Coach Irish, 4-0 With Coach Moore, Just say'n. Yes. Coach Irish was, in fact, on the bench, but still allowing Coach Moore to call the game.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 30, 2021 10:23:09 GMT -5
Shelby coming to town tonight. Hopefully, Truckers give Whippets all kinds of heck
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 30, 2021 10:27:48 GMT -5
Shelby coming to town tonight. Hopefully, Truckers give Whippets all kinds of heck Is this game gonna be streamed or on the radio?
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 30, 2021 10:52:12 GMT -5
Shelby coming to town tonight. Hopefully, Truckers give Whippets all kinds of heck Is this game gonna be streamed or on the radio? I'm fairly certain Radio at the very least.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 30, 2021 16:21:31 GMT -5
Mansfield Sr takes down Sandusky 62-51. These are not your father's Tygers or Blue Streaks.
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Post by mrsteel on Jan 30, 2021 17:34:40 GMT -5
Mansfield Sr takes down Sandusky 62-51. These are not your father's Tygers or Blue Streaks. lol no they’re not, but Senior has been playing better since they got going again.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 30, 2021 19:32:43 GMT -5
After their 11th game Senior loses one of their better players.
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Post by spinnaker on Feb 2, 2021 21:03:33 GMT -5
Perkins takes down Tiffin on a last second layup, 65-63.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 2, 2021 23:23:12 GMT -5
Norwalk: 58 Clyde: 55 FINAL
Shane Hohman misses a 3 at the buzzer that would have tied it for the Fliers. Clyde led by eight points in the first half.
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Post by perwalk on Feb 5, 2021 23:26:21 GMT -5
Norwalk beats Sandusky by 18 to stay atop the Lake closing in on a another title...
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 5, 2021 23:35:31 GMT -5
Norwalk beats Sandusky by 18 to stay atop the Lake closing in on a another title... Norwalk is a scary team right now. Playing well.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 6, 2021 8:35:27 GMT -5
I’ll say this about Gray —- his teams get better as the season gets into Feb and he has them playing as well as they possibly can. For me that checks a box of being a good coach.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 6, 2021 15:14:41 GMT -5
Norwalk beats Sandusky by 18 to stay atop the Lake closing in on a another title... Norwalk is a scary team right now. Playing well. Against "average at best" Lake.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 6, 2021 18:35:24 GMT -5
The SBC Lake is a terrific football conference. In basketball, there is work to be done.
Bellevue has had two relevant years since 2000.
Clyde is in the same neighborhood. Slightly better, but nothing stupendous.
Sandusky had their runs to regionals, but without a W at that level. I fear it is a symptom of the Mansfield district being weak.
Tiffin is good this year. I hope they keep it up. This Richland to Erie County corridor needs more schools that are a threat.
Perkins...groovy in that 2011-2013 window, but anything else?
Norwalk post 2014 has done well. This year, they had some tough non-con games early on. They are clearly earning their keep in the 2nd half of the season this year.
I could perhaps find the answer with some research on Davey1, but I don't care to do the research at the moment... What has been the strongest SBC Lake year since inception? I will steadfastly point out that the MOAC is/has been/will be dismal for basketball.
I can't be picky. Our area has shown more gusto in recent years when it comes to competing in football. Basketball has been an utter weakness. I don't know if I am demanding too much when I ask for a strong hoops presence in this area. It certainly isn't coming from MOAC culture. The SBC is the only avenue remaining.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 6, 2021 19:13:01 GMT -5
Putting the MOAC, as it's now constituted, on trial for being weak in basketball is like putting a 3 year old on trial for stealing pacifiers. Other than Larry Siegfried in the 50's Shelby hasn't added anything of significance to ANY league they've been in. Let me know when they win a State Title or make it to a Final Four as current MOAC members have AND would have done if Shelby was in the league with them at the time. What is "recent" years?? Back 3 years to when you graduated from high school?
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 6, 2021 19:38:53 GMT -5
I’ve watched a lot of basketball in Columbus. Other than Norwalk for a couple of years I have not seen exceptional basketball in the area. Not NOL, SBC, OCC. Admittedly I moved here in 1999 and didn’t see Willard in its heyday. I did watch my alma mater knock Willard out once back then 😳😂.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 6, 2021 20:13:52 GMT -5
Newbie You need to research the histories of Lexington, Mansfield Senior, Mansfield Malabar, Mansfield St. Peter, Wynford, Clear Fork and Pleasant.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 6, 2021 21:33:16 GMT -5
Clyde: 57 Perkins: 56 FINAL
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 23:08:58 GMT -5
The SBC Lake is a terrific football conference. In basketball, there is work to be done. Bellevue has had two relevant years since 2000. Clyde is in the same neighborhood. Slightly better, but nothing stupendous. Sandusky had their runs to regionals, but without a W at that level. I fear it is a symptom of the Mansfield district being weak. Tiffin is good this year. I hope they keep it up. This Richland to Erie County corridor needs more schools that are a threat. Perkins...groovy in that 2011-2013 window, but anything else? Norwalk post 2014 has done well. This year, they had some tough non-con games early on. They are clearly earning their keep in the 2nd half of the season this year. I could perhaps find the answer with some research on Davey1, but I don't care to do the research at the moment... What has been the strongest SBC Lake year since inception? I will steadfastly point out that the MOAC is/has been/will be dismal for basketball. I can't be picky. Our area has shown more gusto in recent years when it comes to competing in football. Basketball has been an utter weakness. I don't know if I am demanding too much when I ask for a strong hoops presence in this area. It certainly isn't coming from MOAC culture. The SBC is the only avenue remaining. Would have loved for your whippets to have stayed in the SBC and compete in all sports in the Lake. I know they pushed hard to play in the Bay in football the year they were a part of it. Basketball in this area though is not strong, I will agree in that. There are some pretty good coaches who get the most out of their kids. One would think with all the AAU push and one club having their own gym now that going forward maybe basketball will improve in general in the region.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 7, 2021 8:46:13 GMT -5
Putting the MOAC, as it's now constituted, on trial for being weak in basketball is like putting a 3 year old on trial for stealing pacifiers. Other than Larry Siegfried in the 50's Shelby hasn't added anything of significance to ANY league they've been in. Let me know when they win a State Title or make it to a Final Four as current MOAC members have AND would have done if Shelby was in the league with them at the time. What is "recent" years?? Back 3 years to when you graduated from high school? I don't feel any accomplishment by critiquing the MOAC... It is such low hanging fruit. If there were teams in the SBC Lake who make a healthy run in basketball, I wouldn't be stunned the way I would be if certain MOAC teams did. And believe me, I know Shelby's basketball "renaissance" this century is merely 3 league titles and 3 district final losses (5 district appearances in total). We certainly aren't the breadwinner in hoops. I'm excited for this season, but it's also going to be another ho hum local history lesson if Shelby gets a 20 point spanking in regionals. I should add that my scope for all this is roughly 2000 onwards. We had some good area pedigree in the 80s and 90s... But I want MORE. That's the beef here, I say.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 7, 2021 12:36:37 GMT -5
Yes I to would be stunned if any MOAC team makes a "healthy run" this year.
For Shelby, not just this century, but the past 60 years
Losing by 1 or 20 in the regionals is the same, a loss.
I'm not so sure your "scope" can be trusted. Clear Fork won a State Title in 2002. Upper won a State Title in 2005, Runner up 2007. Mansfield Senior made it to the Final Four in 2006. Lex made it to the State Finals in 2018. St.Petes lost in the Regional Finals 3 years in a row from 2017 to 2019. Pleasant lost in the Regional Finals three times in a 12 year span during your "scope".
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 7, 2021 14:41:18 GMT -5
I think my scope is appropriate. We have: - Clear Fork, Norwalk, and Upper Sandusky's state titles - Port Clinton state runner-ups - Senior, Lexington, and Willard's Final Four (Lex lost to SVSM in the Final Four in 18) - Some good regional showings by St. Pete's, Plymouth, and Pleasant (though Pleasant was playing in the southeast Ohio region...much weaker than northwest)
The rest of northwest Ohio can lay claim to much more in that same 20 year stretch.
State Titles (11): Holgate, Ottawa-Glandorf (3x), Lima Central Catholic (3x), Convoy Crestview (2x), Defiance, Delphos St. John's
State Runner-Ups (13): Delphos St. John's, Convoy Crestview, Columbus Grove, Liberty-Benton, Toledo Libbey, Defiance Tinora, Kalida, Elida, Leipsic, Lima Central Catholic, Lima Senior, Lincolnview, Wauseon
Final Fours (19): Lima Shawnee, Lima Central Catholic, Wayne Trace (3x), Archbold (4x), Continental (2x), Holgate, Ada, Ottawa Hills, Toledo Rogers, Arlington, Ottawa-Glandorf, Delphos St. John's, Pandora-Gilboa
To be fair, I am collecting info on many districts in northwest Ohio and comparing it to our own local districts. If I divide the total amount of state appearances by 4 (which seems reasonable as I'm covering a territory that would represent about 4 times bigger than our own area), they still have around 10 instances compared to whatever this area boasts since the year 2000.
This area has flat-out underperformed.
Granted, the average household income amongst towns in the WBL is roughly $5,000 higher than MOAC/SBC towns. We don't even compare economically.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 7, 2021 15:24:29 GMT -5
You're comparing the entirety of the North West District to a sliver in North Central Ohio. Did those State Titles and runner ups you listed ONLY occur in your '"scope" of this century or is it more? I only listed North Central Ohio teams in YOUR "scope".
Less than 1.2% of the high schools in Ohio make the Final Fours each year. Compound that with schools that are known as supposed recruiters and districts that have an abundance of athletic families that don't leave their communities, but stay and reproduce. Districts with more athletic athletes. Districts that have MUCH better programs and head coaches. I don't think some comprehend how difficult it is to make a Final Four, especially given the cards the average district plays with. Be happy with league titles. The rest is gravy, that only the best cooks with the best ingredients know how to make. Once in a great while.
More important than household income is the commercial tax base of communities.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 12, 2021 20:48:03 GMT -5
Norwalk, a 67-48 winner over in Bellevue this evening.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 12, 2021 22:14:14 GMT -5
Norwalk has a chance to clinch at least a share of the SBC Lake title on Saturday night at Perkins.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 13, 2021 6:22:08 GMT -5
Norwalks final 3 games are pretty tough. Perkins is very much improved team having won 7 of last 8, beat TC. SC is a pretty darn good D4 team. TC who is 17-3 If nothing it'll get them ready for the tournament.
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Post by perwalk on Feb 13, 2021 12:19:08 GMT -5
Norwalks final 3 games are pretty tough. Perkins is very much improved team having won 7 of last 8, beat TC. SC is a pretty darn good D4 team. TC who is 17-3 If nothing it'll get them ready for the tournament. Agreed however take nothing away from the feat they can accomplish this evening winning a Lake Crown. After starting 2-5 most had them buried. Some even prior to that claiming the Lake would be TC and then everybody else (throw them in a hat) it would be a big deal to win outright but a championship is a championship. As for the tournament you know they will be ready. These seniors don’t know any different with an 8-3 record and a District title and District runner up during the past 3 seasons prior to this...
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 13, 2021 12:40:11 GMT -5
Norwalks final 3 games are pretty tough. Perkins is very much improved team having won 7 of last 8, beat TC. SC is a pretty darn good D4 team. TC who is 17-3 If nothing it'll get them ready for the tournament. Agreed however take nothing away from the feat they can accomplish this evening winning a Lake Crown. After starting 2-5 most had them buried. Some even prior to that claiming the Lake would be TC and then everybody else (throw them in a hat) it would be a big deal to win outright but a championship is a championship. As for the tournament you know they will be ready. These seniors don’t know any different with an 8-3 record and a District title and District runner up during the past 3 seasons prior to this... In my mind, Norwalk has been the biggest surprise in all of the SBC. Kudos. I certainly had them 3rd or 4th in the Lake.
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Post by perwalk on Feb 13, 2021 13:35:07 GMT -5
While we are talking surprised I will give props to Willard at 15-5 and on the brink of a Bay title. I would have guessed closer to .500 after losing a big chunk of their offensive and defense in their 2 seniors last year...
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