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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 18, 2021 21:52:30 GMT -5
Did you listen to what Ryan Day said? After being unable to stop Oregon's running game, their number one goal was to stop Tulsa's run game. Last week the Oregon QB completed less than 50% of his passes AND that was never being rushed or even touched. If Ohio State would not have been terrible on run defense against Oregon they would have easily won. Yeah the only problem is when they needed to pass for a first down the buckeyes made it easy for them. Buckeyes had not one but two chances to go down and tie the game and didn’t. Guess who couldn’t lead them down the field with the best WR’s group in the country…. Yeah, but if Ohio State stopped their running game.....I said at halftime that the defense MUST got 2 stops and the offense MUST score a TD on EVERY possession, for Ohio State to win. Neither happened. Not even Justin Fields' offense could score on EVERY possession. |
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Post by buckeyekid on Sept 18, 2021 22:03:55 GMT -5
At some point they have to give Mcord a chance. I'm in the camp of not sold on Stroud. The WR's body language is not good about Stroud. That's what I see. On the plus side we have a legit 'house it' RB. Sevyn Banks anybody got anything?  |
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Post by ronburgandy on Sept 18, 2021 22:05:17 GMT -5
Banks did get in some series today, almost had a pick actually on his very first play. Who knows what’s going on though. Coaches aren’t giving out any info at all.
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Post by Birdman on Sept 18, 2021 22:27:05 GMT -5
Yeah the only problem is when they needed to pass for a first down the buckeyes made it easy for them. Buckeyes had not one but two chances to go down and tie the game and didn’t. Guess who couldn’t lead them down the field with the best WR’s group in the country…. Yeah, but if Ohio State stopped their running game.....I said at halftime that the defense MUST got 2 stops and the offense MUST score a TD on EVERY possession, for Ohio State to win. Neither happened. Not even Justin Fields' offense could score on EVERY possession. Justin fields would have gotten minimum 10 points out of those two drives, that’s the difference between having “it” and not having “it.” |
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Post by Birdman on Sept 18, 2021 22:29:08 GMT -5
At some point they have to give Mcord a chance. I'm in the camp of not sold on Stroud. The WR's body language is not good about Stroud. That's what I see. On the plus side we have a legit 'house it' RB. Sevyn Banks anybody got anything? Funny you mention that because they all appear to have something going on. The expectation is you make the throw we catch it, hell get it around us and we will catch it, but stroud couldn’t do that. I think maybe just maybe some “trust issues” could arise should these guys not get the ball thrown their way to help their draft stock. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 18, 2021 22:43:12 GMT -5
Yeah, but if Ohio State stopped their running game.....I said at halftime that the defense MUST got 2 stops and the offense MUST score a TD on EVERY possession, for Ohio State to win. Neither happened. Not even Justin Fields' offense could score on EVERY possession. Justin fields would have gotten minimum 10 points out of those two drives, that’s the difference between having “it” and not having “it.” AGAIN, Justin Fields NEVER scored a TD on EVERY drive. That is what was needed to win that game IF the Defense got 2 stops. |
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Post by ronburgandy on Sept 18, 2021 22:46:30 GMT -5
Justin fields would have gotten minimum 10 points out of those two drives, that’s the difference between having “it” and not having “it.” AGAIN, Justin Fields NEVER scored a TD on EVERY drive. That is what was needed to win that game IF the Defense got 2 stops. you’re not comparing similar things though. You’re right, he never scored a TD on every drive of a full game. But in the situation being talked about, you’re just asking for scores on back to back drives, which Fields did do many times. |
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Post by dude on Sept 19, 2021 7:15:48 GMT -5
I would expect more changes against Akron.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Sept 19, 2021 7:42:57 GMT -5
Remember when I let you guys know about JT "Noodle Arm" Barrett and told you that Dwayne Haskins and Joe Burrow were better QB's and either of them would be doing better than JT "I only complete passes under 5 yards" Barrett. I was proven 100% correct.
Well we are on to Ryan Day now.
Ryan Day single handily lost Ohio State the Clemson game in 2019 with his weak game day decisions.
Ryan Day got Ohio State ran off the field vs Bama by playing a prevent defense vs them in 2020.
Ryan Day is now in year 3. What's he going to bring? Yikes so far.
Ryan Day rode Urban "Legend's" players to wins in 2019 and 2020. Now it's 2021 and even though Day has gotten some top notch recruits the performance on the field looks like #40 recruiting classes. That's 100% on Ryan "Not an elite Head Coach" Day.
The 2019 Ohio State team was the best team in the Nation and Ryan Day choked vs Clemson. Urban would have won it all. Shame on Ryan Day for peeing down his leg vs that 2019 Clemson team.
Ryan Day is Larry Coker 2.0
Butch Davis restored Miami into the "U" and left the cupboard fully stocked for Coker. Coker rode those Butch Davis players to success early, but never got to a 10 win season after year 3. Coker dissipated Miami all the way down into 7-6 by year 6. Coker destroyed the "U" and turned Miami into just another average CFB team, it's been nearly 20 years since Miami was the "U". Coker did that to them.
The AD better be careful and not let Day turn Ohio State into shambles. I don't want to watch Ohio State become a Michigan level joke.
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Post by ronburgandy on Sept 19, 2021 7:48:21 GMT -5
Stroud’s answers to questions during his press conferences are a little strange too. After every game so far he has mentioned he’s not 100% healthy, has mentioned he hasn’t played football in 2 years, yesterday he said to remember he’s only 19, and he has said several times that he knows he’s a great player. This is all part of what I mean when I say I’m not sold on him yet. His answers are just odd.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 7:49:11 GMT -5
Remember when I let you guys know about JT "Noodle Arm" Barrett and told you that Dwayne Haskins and Joe Burrow were better QB's and either of them would be doing better than JT "I only complete passes under 5 yards" Barrett. I was proven 100% correct. Well we are on to Ryan Day now. Ryan Day single handily lost Ohio State the Clemson game in 2019 with his weak game day decisions. Ryan Day got Ohio State ran off the field vs Bama by playing a prevent defense vs them in 2020. Ryan Day is now in year 3. What's he going to bring? Yikes so far. Ryan Day rode Urban "Legend's" players to wins in 2019 and 2020. Now it's 2021 and even though Day has gotten some top notch recruits the performance on the field looks like #40 recruiting classes. That's 100% on Ryan "Not an elite Head Coach" Day. The 2019 Ohio State team was the best team in the Nation and Ryan Day choked vs Clemson. Urban would have won it all. Shame on Ryan Day for peeing down his leg vs that 2019 Clemson team. Ryan Day is Larry Coker 2.0 Butch Davis restored Miami into the "U" and left the cupboard fully stocked for Coker. Coker rode those Butch Davis players to success early, but never got to a 10 win season after year 3. Coker dissipated Miami all the way down into 7-6 by year 6. Coker destroyed the "U" and turned Miami into just another average CFB team, it's been nearly 20 years since Miami was the "U". Coker did that to them. The AD better be careful and not let Day turn Ohio State into shambles. I don't want to watch Ohio State become a Michigan level joke. You do realize playing Barrett over Haskins and Burrow was under Urban? |
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Post by dude on Sept 19, 2021 8:13:30 GMT -5
Some of these thoughts may have some merit. I believe just because a guy is a GREAT position coach does not mean he is a good head coach. Right now I feel the Combs is in that category. GREAT DB coach, leave him there. Kevin Wilson can be another example. Does Ryan Day fall into this? |
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Post by ronburgandy on Sept 19, 2021 8:21:55 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s Day, this is only what, his 20th game as a head coach here or something close to that. We were in the title game last year and should’ve been the year before as well if it weren’t for some bogus calls. Make some changes in the off-season with coaches and I think they’ll be fine. And also stop rotating players so much and play the best ones no matter how old they are. Right now some of our best players are true freshmen.
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Post by dude on Sept 19, 2021 8:44:41 GMT -5
I think the transfer portal is the major cause for the rotations. Trying to keep everyone happy can backfire. We have potentially an NFL receiving group and can't get our top receiver involved against an 0-2 unranked team.
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 19, 2021 8:57:32 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s Day, this is only what, his 20th game as a head coach here or something close to that. We were in the title game last year and should’ve been the year before as well if it weren’t for some bogus calls. Make some changes in the off-season with coaches and I think they’ll be fine. And also stop rotating players so much and play the best ones no matter how old they are. Right now some of our best players are true freshmen. Let's keep Ryan Day completely out of the discussion. It borders on ridiculous. One regular season loss in the past two years, certainly reveals how fickle fans can be. I was unable to watch the Tulsa game, so I'll limit my comments, but I think the rotation was borne out of necessity, in order to appraise and assess the young talent. Talk about bogus calls, anyone remember the no call on an obvious pass interference in the end zone, just before the half of the Oregon game? That would have been the game changer. I have to agree with several of you guys, I'm still not entirely sold on C.J. at QB. Would love to see Kyle McCord have some realtime action. |
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Post by fbfan on Sept 19, 2021 11:02:37 GMT -5
I'll put in my 2 cents. If the Defense had played as well as everyone expected, no one would be concerned about the Offense. If the D had forced a good amount of 3 and outs, instead of the long drives they gave up, the offense would probably have put up a lot more points. We would be talking about how well our new QB is doing considering he's just a freshman with no experience. And how about our new freshman RB? That being said, I agree with some of the other comments about the need for the QB to run a little more. If the RPO is a regular part of your game plan, the defense has to allow and defend for it, making downfield passing to our great receivers all the better.
Bottom line, fix the defense. I know, easier said than done.
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Post by DrTorch on Sept 19, 2021 11:10:30 GMT -5
Henderson was about the only bright spot. Also, what happened to Miyan Williams? Who cares lol |
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 19, 2021 18:18:25 GMT -5
Henderson was about the only bright spot. Also, what happened to Miyan Williams? Who cares lol Three freshmen are creating a lot of excitement and bright spots vs. Tulsa and this young season. Tyleik Williams is big, fast and mean. Denzel Burke is playing like an defensive MVP TreVeyon Henderson is going to be a weekly highlight film throughout his Buckeye years. Rather funny, how freshmen are showing 'leadership' in putting some fire in this team. |
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Post by sportsjock on Sept 20, 2021 5:26:00 GMT -5
Kyle McCord and/or Jack Miller should have seen the field at some point, in this game, understanding C.J. is nursing a shoulder problem. Playing one player exclusively is not developing QB depth that can and will be needed entering Big 10 play.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 20, 2021 12:21:51 GMT -5
No QB development in close games. Did Alabama do any QB development this week? Did Oklahoma? Clemson? Did Oregon against Ohio State? Did Georgia against Clemson? I could go on and on and on. QB is completely different than any position on a football team. ALL head coaches will tell you this.
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Post by DrTorch on Sept 20, 2021 12:41:16 GMT -5
The story here is fix the D. D line is a mess. LBs have sucked for awhile now. DBs are all injured. If the D doesn't suck so bad we don't have to go for it on 4th down vs ORE every time.
BUT we better maximize what we get out of the QB position because I don't see the D getting a lot better moving forward. Teams are just Biakabatuing the bejeezus out of us and PSU and UM are licking their chops I am sure. 2018 redux for sure so Stroud better keep slinging, it took 50 tds from Simba to keep us afloat that year.
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Post by baldref on Sept 23, 2021 12:01:06 GMT -5
someone gets their chance vs akron as Stroud wont be playing so he can rest his sore shoulder
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