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Post by sweathog on Apr 18, 2022 11:55:52 GMT -5
Where is the commitment of player to team?
If you are on a high school team, don't care if it's basketball, track, tennis, baseball or any team.
Is it not your commitment to show up to ever practice and game?
Why is it some parents and players do not abide to this for their daughter or son going to something other than their high school game?
Your commitment is to your high school team, not something else!!!!
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Post by jmorgret07 on Apr 18, 2022 13:11:03 GMT -5
Depends on the situation, but in general, I agree with you.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 18, 2022 14:04:43 GMT -5
What about this. At the Ontario Relays the Ontario coaches knew their girls would be in a battle with Shelby for the team title. The head coach told one of their distance runners she'd be running the 3200 meters in the meet. She said she wouldn't do it. Saying she'd only run the 1600. Not that the distance was to far, she ran cross country and was one of their top 5 runners.
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Post by sportsvideo on Apr 18, 2022 18:05:57 GMT -5
Where is the commitment of player to team? If you are on a high school team, don't care if it's basketball, track, tennis, baseball or any team. Is it not your commitment to show up to ever practice and game? Why is it some parents and players do not abide to this for their daughter or son going to something other than their high school game? Your commitment is to your high school team, not something else!!!! that is on the coach to determine this.. if he doesn't want them running off to AAU or whatever, then tell them before the season begins. spring is a very tough sport because of easter break and weather.. if track/baseball/softball/tennis or whatever isn't there #1 sport and you tell them to pick and choose? they will... |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 19, 2022 9:09:26 GMT -5
A while ago, during basketball season, a local school had 2 starters go to Florida with their parents during Christmas break. Stupid parents.
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Post by sweathog on Apr 19, 2022 12:29:09 GMT -5
Where is the commitment of player to team? If you are on a high school team, don't care if it's basketball, track, tennis, baseball or any team. Is it not your commitment to show up to ever practice and game? Why is it some parents and players do not abide to this for their daughter or son going to something other than their high school game? Your commitment is to your high school team, not something else!!!! that is on the coach to determine this.. if he doesn't want them running off to AAU or whatever, then tell them before the season begins. spring is a very tough sport because of easter break and weather.. if track/baseball/softball/tennis or whatever isn't there #1 sport and you tell them to pick and choose? they will... Wrong, it's the stupid parents, they should know better!!! Ok if its up to coach and I was coach the girl or boy wouldn't be on team anymore!!! Boy wouldn't that cause a problem for school board and administration!!! |
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Post by clb6110 on Apr 19, 2022 14:47:09 GMT -5
Both of my kids played AAU bball and spring sports. Baseball and tennis. AAU always took a back seat if there was a conflict. Now this didn't affect us but what if there a HS band trip of choir event that interferes? My oldest graduated in '12 and youngest in '16 and I witnessed this happen a few times at our school district. Band or choir always won and the music teachers made sure of that. Don't know if it's still the same.
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Post by hhsfan90 on Apr 20, 2022 14:01:41 GMT -5
In this situation the spring coaches could take a hard stance but then be at risk of losing talent or they can allow a game here and there to be missed by these athletes and look at it as opportunities to play some younger kids or others who may not always start. Kids who play AAU or JO do it because that is their primary sport that they may wish to move on to the next level with.
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Post by sportsvideo on Apr 21, 2022 16:07:40 GMT -5
that is on the coach to determine this.. if he doesn't want them running off to AAU or whatever, then tell them before the season begins. spring is a very tough sport because of easter break and weather.. if track/baseball/softball/tennis or whatever isn't there #1 sport and you tell them to pick and choose? they will... Wrong, it's the stupid parents, they should know better!!! Ok if its up to coach and I was coach the girl or boy wouldn't be on team anymore!!! Boy wouldn't that cause a problem for school board and administration!!! again be the coach that tells them you choose.. either you do this or you do that...and believe me they certainly will choose.. |
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Post by falcon87 on Apr 21, 2022 20:10:41 GMT -5
Spring sports are in the worst season with volleyball, basketball and wrestling tournaments pulling kids away. It’s a reality many track coaches at small schools bend over backwards for so they can have a full team for the conference and district meet. Want to compete at a small school you best share. I believe we are watching “school team” loyalty die as the pay to play teams dominate. It’s financial, it’s the family weekend vacations and it’s the social networking DRIVEN BY PARENTS.
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Post by sportsvideo on Apr 22, 2022 14:09:10 GMT -5
Spring sports are in the worst season with volleyball, basketball and wrestling tournaments pulling kids away. It’s a reality many track coaches at small schools bend over backwards for so they can have a full team for the conference and district meet. Want to compete at a small school you best share. I believe we are watching “school team” loyalty die as the pay to play teams dominate. It’s financial, it’s the family weekend vacations and it’s the social networking DRIVEN BY PARENTS. it has been going on for years .. small schools will feel it the most, as larger schools specialize . the problem in todays sports is Zero break off.. soon as fall sport ends, you pick up a basketball, soon as basketball ends, you put on a ball glove. actual practices start before the other season ends. can't go away for christmas because basketball, can't go away for easter because of spring sports. so when does the student get family time? try fitting it in during a summer. those calenders are more busy then the school year... and that athlete is twisted 3 different ways... summer job? LOL forget it... so it comes down to this.. if you as a coach make them choose,,, you as a coach will lose them... take them for what they can offer or lose... and that could work for the fall and winter sports as well... |
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Post by sweathog on Apr 25, 2022 12:14:09 GMT -5
In this situation the spring coaches could take a hard stance but then be at risk of losing talent or they can allow a game here and there to be missed by these athletes and look at it as opportunities to play some younger kids or others who may not always start. Kids who play AAU or JO do it because that is their primary sport that they may wish to move on to the next level with. If you are a good player you don't need AAU to move on to next level, they will find you!!! As I said it's mainly the parents fault because they think their son or daughter is a division 1 player!! You play on a high school team you are committed to that team first, not some AAU team! No different than if you are in the working world and you go work somewhere else on a given day and don't show up for your normal job, how far would that fly? Coaches and administration should not have to make these decision on what to do, the parents should be smart enough to know the correct thing to do, but their are a lot of stupid parents and some coaches are not any better. |
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Post by sportsvideo on Apr 26, 2022 16:47:44 GMT -5
In this situation the spring coaches could take a hard stance but then be at risk of losing talent or they can allow a game here and there to be missed by these athletes and look at it as opportunities to play some younger kids or others who may not always start. Kids who play AAU or JO do it because that is their primary sport that they may wish to move on to the next level with. If you are a good player you don't need AAU to move on to next level, they will find you!!! As I said it's mainly the parents fault because they think their son or daughter is a division 1 player!! You play on a high school team you are committed to that team first, not some AAU team! No different than if you are in the working world and you go work somewhere else on a given day and don't show up for your normal job, how far would that fly? Coaches and administration should not have to make these decision on what to do, the parents should be smart enough to know the correct thing to do, but their are a lot of stupid parents and some coaches are not any better. Would love to chat with you about that subject, because that is not entirely correct. I deal with college coaches, I deal with athletes being recruited..I have for many years. I have picked college coaches brains on JO, and playing multiple sports.. The majority like that they can do both if possible. And don't title a parent as stupid for giving their kids options. Some coaches are begging these kids to play on a team or play a sport, and many times its "you can play JO AAU, and just come when you can".. these kids can tell you to go fly a kite, or you can bargain with them.. its where we are at in today's world.. take it or leave it |
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Post by clb6110 on Apr 26, 2022 18:49:37 GMT -5
sweathog paints with a broad brush and and quite simply is 80% wrong. He's correct in that if you are good enough coaches/teams will find you. I was some years back involved with AAU as a parent for 7 tears. Never ever ever once was my families intention was to move on to D1 hoops. Actually neither of my kids wanted to play at the next level regardless at what level. AAU was strictly for fun. When there are 100+ teams at a tourney,10 or so kids thats 1000 kids or so. I would say maybe 1-200 kids at the most think AAU is the path for the golden ticket and I really think that guess is high.The vast majority of kids and parents do the AAU circuit because its a very fun time playing and hanging out with friends. I've been to 100s of tourneys and I've seen the college or bust kids and parents but trust me they are in the way down minority.There is a whole another AAU circuit for those type players and there have only been a handful pass thru north central Ohio in the last decade.Don't bash AAU unless you've experienced it.My kids favorite BBall memories.
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Post by pirate80 on Apr 27, 2022 18:18:08 GMT -5
AAU/travel sports are ruining high school athletics.
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