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Post by redskinfan04 on Dec 3, 2023 7:59:54 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/live/3447joB9oaU?si=H9zenM83nKE9nQtQComments start around the forty minute mark. I’m assuming the entire segment is related directly to Perkins but he talks about Perkins around the forty two minute mark. Ginn’s been around for fifty years so to get called the most disrespectful program he’s ever seen is really something.
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Post by sportsvideo on Dec 3, 2023 9:17:21 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/live/3447joB9oaU?si=H9zenM83nKE9nQtQComments start around the forty minute mark. I’m assuming the entire segment is related directly to Perkins but he talks about Perkins around the forty two minute mark. Ginn’s been around for fifty years so to get called the most disrespectful program he’s ever seen is really something. OH MY! He is not shy is he? Not sure I understand where he is coming from however. Why is it wrong to play someone in your region? And schedules are set up before the Regions are determined. I'd love to talk to this guy one on one. |
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Post by mcm1019 on Dec 3, 2023 9:28:35 GMT -5
That guy certainly likes to hear himself talk. A "professiona high school football team"? Exactly, that's why the rest of the State is irritatated that you're hiding in D4 when you can basicaclly pick from all of Cleveland. And it's disrespectful for Perkins to want to play in the regular season, is that what he's saying? And of course he has to play the race card. Is the disrespect maybe a shot at this message board, where Perkins fans were talking about a State title months ago (because I know this site was mentioned on another Ohio sports talk site). Whatever, stay classy Ted.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Dec 3, 2023 9:39:59 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/live/3447joB9oaU?si=H9zenM83nKE9nQtQComments start around the forty minute mark. I’m assuming the entire segment is related directly to Perkins but he talks about Perkins around the forty two minute mark. Ginn’s been around for fifty years so to get called the most disrespectful program he’s ever seen is really something. OH MY! He is not shy is he? Not sure I understand where he is coming from however. Why is it wrong to play someone in your region? And schedules are set up before the Regions are determined. I'd love to talk to this guy one on one. I could get where he might find Perkins asking that to be disrespectful. They are essentially asking Glenville to prep them for the R14 regional title game. What coach in their right mind is going to sign up for that? “ Hey coach, we really struggled in the first quarter to adjust to your size and speed. Any chance you’d play us regular season so we can be ready come playoff time?” To the right coach that just might be highly insulting. |
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Post by sportsvideo on Dec 3, 2023 10:56:50 GMT -5
OH MY! He is not shy is he? Not sure I understand where he is coming from however. Why is it wrong to play someone in your region? And schedules are set up before the Regions are determined. I'd love to talk to this guy one on one. I could get where he might find Perkins asking that to be disrespectful. They are essentially asking Glenville to prep them for the R14 regional title game. What coach in their right mind is going to sign up for that? “ Hey coach, we really struggled in the first quarter to adjust to your size and speed. Any chance you’d play us regular season so we can be ready come playoff time?” To the right coach that just might be highly insulting. Maybe, asking them to play is disrespectful? and its week 2 of the season.. which they were looking for. I just wonder what is disrespectful? is it their on field behavior? is it their fans on talk boards? is it asking to play? Glenville plays all D-1 thru D3 teams during the season. And they too have played within their own region before during regular season(2021 Reg 13 Lake Catholic) For Ginn To bring this out in a public forum to talk about it. Classless. Just say NO and move on... Nope he had to throw the Race Card out one more time. Just don't get it.. |
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Post by tonyperkis on Dec 3, 2023 13:41:50 GMT -5
Calling a Spade a Spade. Well said Coach Ginn.
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Post by kingmartinez on Dec 3, 2023 17:39:50 GMT -5
Perkins asking them to play isn’t the disrespect he’s talking about. May be the Perkins spin but that’s not it. Perkins knows what went down before, during, and after the game.
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Post by don on Dec 3, 2023 17:52:48 GMT -5
Calling a Spade a Spade. Well said Coach Ginn. make sure you make your bed in the morning in your moms basement before you go to work tomorrow. |
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Post by don on Dec 3, 2023 18:30:44 GMT -5
Perkins asking them to play isn’t the disrespect he’s talking about. May be the Perkins spin but that’s not it. Perkins knows what went down before, during, and after the game. v congratulations to your 2024 Bellevue Redmen on another 5-5 season |
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Post by tonyperkis on Dec 3, 2023 20:22:39 GMT -5
Calling a Spade a Spade. Well said Coach Ginn. make sure you make your bed in the morning in your moms basement before you go to work tomorrow. go redmen |
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Post by Birdman on Dec 3, 2023 21:36:52 GMT -5
Interesting. I would really be interested in knowing what made Perkins “the most disrespectful team ever” in his eyes. I personally don’t take anything away from their program or players. I do however question tactics what they may or may not use to be where they’re at if anything ever came to light. If kids come there to play and live within their district to create a zero CB fantastic. Maybe there is nothing going on and it’s all legit, I know nothing personally to say otherwise.
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Post by kritz on Dec 4, 2023 11:13:52 GMT -5
He must have missed the Steubenville vs Alter game.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 14:23:20 GMT -5
Ginn probably doesn’t directly recruit but when you have a population of 500,000 people to choose from, you don’t have too. He has plenty of resources, so i don’t buy into the lack of resources. Yes, he might have rougher kids to reach which is commendable
However, i witnessed the game and interaction between Perkins and Glenville. Glenville was out of line on numerous occasions. The most disrespectful program is a stretch, maybe the most arrogant program and that is a reflection of the coach. Social media doesn’t help at all. Perkins got a taste of their own medicine a bit. I don’t discredit what Santoro has done from a winning standpoint but the program has a reputation, maybe that comes frol winning. In my opinion, Perkins head coach doesnt care much about character or integrity, he wants to win at all cost, which is ok for some people. I see both sides of it. The comment that Ginn made about not playing teams in their own region was idiotic. Either way, these two teams may meet again.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Dec 5, 2023 22:39:20 GMT -5
I love/respect what Ginn has done over the years, but I wonder if Perkins is getting to his head a little. He should have paid no mind to Perkins; it's review mirror, but made it a point to bring them up during a Title Game pep rally against Alter
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Post by charmin on Dec 6, 2023 1:27:46 GMT -5
1 Ginn is smoke and mirrors and loves to hide behind the race card.
2. Ginn call Perkins coaches Sunday before the game to praise them and the program.
3. Ginn put your money where your mouth is, a team in OH wants to play you and is not afraid
4. Pep rally was held at Ginn Academy, not Glenville. (interesting)
5. Ginn did not Perkins Coaches wearing sunglasses during pregame and 1st. half.
6. Perkins Coaches maybe arrogant at times but at least they are not afraid to put their money where their mouth is.
7. Glenville was the better team and Perkins will admit that, but they are ready to play again!
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Post by redskinfan04 on Dec 6, 2023 6:12:33 GMT -5
1 Ginn is smoke and mirrors and loves to hide behind the race card. 2. Ginn call Perkins coaches Sunday before the game to praise them and the program. 3. Ginn put your money where your mouth is, a team in OH wants to play you and is not afraid 4. Pep rally was held at Ginn Academy, not Glenville. (interesting) 5. Ginn did not Perkins Coaches wearing sunglasses during pregame and 1st. half. 6. Perkins Coaches maybe arrogant at times but at least they are not afraid to put their money where their mouth is. 7. Glenville was the better team and Perkins will admit that, but they are ready to play again! On 3 and 4. What does Glenville have to gain by playing Perkins in the regular season? If anything they’d be doing Perkins favor by doing so. Why is the location of a pep rally interesting? Ginn academy exists under the blanket of Glenville HS. |
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Post by pirator on Dec 6, 2023 9:55:46 GMT -5
I agree with Coach Ginn as far as not wanting to play Perkins for many of the reasons stated above. Why would you play a team you have a good chance of seeing in the Regional Final? Watching the game it was clear that Perkins was not ready for the speed and size of Glenville. That is what happens when you schedule a soft non-conference. I respect Perkins for wanting to beef up the schedule to prepare them for down the road, but to expect the top dog in your region to want to play in Week 2 is stupid IMO. Go schedule an Avon, TCC, Steubenville, heck even a team like Mansfield or a good D3 school like Aurora, Kenston,etc. This is what Glenville does. They schedule up. They don't try to schedule teams in D4 and definitely not in their region. I hope that Perkins is able to get a few good teams on their non-conference schedule, just think it was out of line to expect Glenville to accept.
Also, I wonder why Ginn is saying that Perkins is the most disrespectful team he has seen. From what my nephew said, aside from the the commonplace crap talking on the field, there were several Glenville players wishing Collier and Sturzinger well after the game and commending them for how well they played. I wonder if it has to do with the fans or coaches. I have seen several race-driven posts from parents of certain players on the team after the game, talking about how the Glenville kids have no future outside of high school football and how they were destined to be poor, etc. Typical suburban dad thoughts about kids that don't look like theirs - which is a real shame, and does not reflect the attitude of most Perkins fans I know.
Personally, I respect the heck out of Ginn and what he has built. I also respect the heck out of Santoro and how he has turned Perkins around. He is one of the finest young coaches in the state if you ask me. I hope to see these two teams meet deep in the postseason again and hopefully Perkins can win. That will be the ultimate way to stick it to them. My only issue with Perkins is that they pay too much attention to stupid websites like this. Let's handle it on the field.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Dec 6, 2023 13:30:52 GMT -5
I agree with Coach Ginn as far as not wanting to play Perkins for many of the reasons stated above. Why would you play a team you have a good chance of seeing in the Regional Final? Watching the game it was clear that Perkins was not ready for the speed and size of Glenville. That is what happens when you schedule a soft non-conference. I respect Perkins for wanting to beef up the schedule to prepare them for down the road, but to expect the top dog in your region to want to play in Week 2 is stupid IMO. Go schedule an Avon, TCC, Steubenville, heck even a team like Mansfield or a good D3 school like Aurora, Kenston,etc. This is what Glenville does. They schedule up. They don't try to schedule teams in D4 and definitely not in their region. I hope that Perkins is able to get a few good teams on their non-conference schedule, just think it was out of line to expect Glenville to accept. Also, I wonder why Ginn is saying that Perkins is the most disrespectful team he has seen. From what my nephew said, aside from the the commonplace crap talking on the field, there were several Glenville players wishing Collier and Sturzinger well after the game and commending them for how well they played. I wonder if it has to do with the fans or coaches. I have seen several race-driven posts from parents of certain players on the team after the game, talking about how the Glenville kids have no future outside of high school football and how they were destined to be poor, etc. Typical suburban dad thoughts about kids that don't look like theirs - which is a real shame, and does not reflect the attitude of most Perkins fans I know. Personally, I respect the heck out of Ginn and what he has built. I also respect the heck out of Santoro and how he has turned Perkins around. He is one of the finest young coaches in the state if you ask me. I hope to see these two teams meet deep in the postseason again and hopefully Perkins can win. That will be the ultimate way to stick it to them. My only issue with Perkins is that they pay too much attention to stupid websites like this. Let's handle it on the field. It is really disappointing that in the year twenty twenty three that grown adults still have such ignorant ideas. I can also see why Ginn might find those types of comments insulting. I sure as hell would if someone was saying that about my players. |
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Post by csk on Dec 7, 2023 7:59:02 GMT -5
I love/respect what Ginn has done over the years, but I wonder if Perkins is getting to his head a little. He should have paid no mind to Perkins; it's review mirror, but made it a point to bring them up during a Title Game pep rally against Alter Bingo. |
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Post by csk on Dec 7, 2023 8:09:22 GMT -5
I agree with Coach Ginn as far as not wanting to play Perkins for many of the reasons stated above. Why would you play a team you have a good chance of seeing in the Regional Final? Watching the game it was clear that Perkins was not ready for the speed and size of Glenville. That is what happens when you schedule a soft non-conference. I respect Perkins for wanting to beef up the schedule to prepare them for down the road, but to expect the top dog in your region to want to play in Week 2 is stupid IMO. Go schedule an Avon, TCC, Steubenville, heck even a team like Mansfield or a good D3 school like Aurora, Kenston,etc. This is what Glenville does. They schedule up. They don't try to schedule teams in D4 and definitely not in their region. I hope that Perkins is able to get a few good teams on their non-conference schedule, just think it was out of line to expect Glenville to accept. Also, I wonder why Ginn is saying that Perkins is the most disrespectful team he has seen. From what my nephew said, aside from the the commonplace crap talking on the field, there were several Glenville players wishing Collier and Sturzinger well after the game and commending them for how well they played. I wonder if it has to do with the fans or coaches. I have seen several race-driven posts from parents of certain players on the team after the game, talking about how the Glenville kids have no future outside of high school football and how they were destined to be poor, etc. Typical suburban dad thoughts about kids that don't look like theirs - which is a real shame, and does not reflect the attitude of most Perkins fans I know. Personally, I respect the heck out of Ginn and what he has built. I also respect the heck out of Santoro and how he has turned Perkins around. He is one of the finest young coaches in the state if you ask me. I hope to see these two teams meet deep in the postseason again and hopefully Perkins can win. That will be the ultimate way to stick it to them. My only issue with Perkins is that they pay too much attention to stupid websites like this. Let's handle it on the field. Disagree with the “weak non conference”. How was Perkins to know EC and Warren JFK would have nasty coaching changes and mass exodus of players at each school? Rocky River was a solid D3 opponent as well. Yeah, Woodward. Ok that’s a SBC vs TCL thanks to a 5 team conference. Hindsight is 20/20, but you’re wrong on this. If it’s about the kids and competition then line it up and play. No disrespect intended. Glenville is upset because there’s a D4 team that isn’t defeated before they get off the bus. If they end up in the same region again, we’ll see 2 teams not backing down from one another. Perkins isn’t and won’t be intimidated by the physical play and trash talk (Glenville coaches included on that). Ready for 2024! |
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Post by sportfan on Dec 7, 2023 17:32:32 GMT -5
I agree with Coach Ginn as far as not wanting to play Perkins for many of the reasons stated above. Why would you play a team you have a good chance of seeing in the Regional Final? Watching the game it was clear that Perkins was not ready for the speed and size of Glenville. That is what happens when you schedule a soft non-conference. I respect Perkins for wanting to beef up the schedule to prepare them for down the road, but to expect the top dog in your region to want to play in Week 2 is stupid IMO. Go schedule an Avon, TCC, Steubenville, heck even a team like Mansfield or a good D3 school like Aurora, Kenston,etc. This is what Glenville does. They schedule up. They don't try to schedule teams in D4 and definitely not in their region. I hope that Perkins is able to get a few good teams on their non-conference schedule, just think it was out of line to expect Glenville to accept. Also, I wonder why Ginn is saying that Perkins is the most disrespectful team he has seen. From what my nephew said, aside from the the commonplace crap talking on the field, there were several Glenville players wishing Collier and Sturzinger well after the game and commending them for how well they played. I wonder if it has to do with the fans or coaches. I have seen several race-driven posts from parents of certain players on the team after the game, talking about how the Glenville kids have no future outside of high school football and how they were destined to be poor, etc. Typical suburban dad thoughts about kids that don't look like theirs - which is a real shame, and does not reflect the attitude of most Perkins fans I know. Personally, I respect the heck out of Ginn and what he has built. I also respect the heck out of Santoro and how he has turned Perkins around. He is one of the finest young coaches in the state if you ask me. I hope to see these two teams meet deep in the postseason again and hopefully Perkins can win. That will be the ultimate way to stick it to them. My only issue with Perkins is that they pay too much attention to stupid websites like this. Let's handle it on the field. I also read a few inappropriate social media posts from pirate dads. Quotes for reference: “nothing but a bunch of thugs and bullies” “come meet me in the parking lot” “Glenville is truly trash” |
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Post by don on Dec 7, 2023 20:38:59 GMT -5
Ginn probably doesn’t directly recruit but when you have a population of 500,000 people to choose from, you don’t have too. He has plenty of resources, so i don’t buy into the lack of resources. Yes, he might have rougher kids to reach which is commendable However, i witnessed the game and interaction between Perkins and Glenville. Glenville was out of line on numerous occasions. The most disrespectful program is a stretch, maybe the most arrogant program and that is a reflection of the coach. Social media doesn’t help at all. Perkins got a taste of their own medicine a bit. I don’t discredit what Santoro has done from a winning standpoint but the program has a reputation, maybe that comes frol winning. In my opinion, Perkins head coach doesnt care much about character or integrity, he wants to win at all cost, which is ok for some people. I see both sides of it. The comment that Ginn made about not playing teams in their own region was idiotic. Either way, these two teams may meet again. when did winning not become the main thing? |
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Post by kritz on Dec 8, 2023 2:23:15 GMT -5
Perkins haters are going to have a long 2024.
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Post by 1belowthepressbox on Dec 8, 2023 19:13:34 GMT -5
You don't play teams in your own region? There are multiple teams in that region that play each other, isn't there?
I believe his problem with Perkins is all of the trash talk that was out there on social media. I read an interview with one of the glenville players in their local newspaper and he pointed that out specifically as part of their motivation going into the game.
And more than likely, most of those postings on social media weren't even from anyone that was on the field that night.
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Post by don on Dec 8, 2023 19:45:22 GMT -5
Trash talk is apart of the game. Get over it.
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Post by poondaddy on Dec 8, 2023 23:49:14 GMT -5
Trash talk is apart of the game. Get over it. “Apart” of the game then keep it out. “A part” of the game then sure, yeah, why not… |
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Post by kritz on Dec 9, 2023 10:30:15 GMT -5
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