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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 15, 2023 14:27:50 GMT -5
A lot of injury prone players on this team
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 15, 2023 14:26:18 GMT -5
I would not complain if Holtman left, but the recruits would leave as well. Holtmann says he's not leaving. Like it or not, he's known as a player's coach. You're right, if Holtman left not many on this squad would remain and most in the incoming class would go elsewhere.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2023 21:18:06 GMT -5
Lucas will be looking for a new home...Loudonville is going to join the KMAC, which pretty much kills the Mid-Buckeye Conference. I really think the Firelands should add Lucas, Mansfield Christian, St. Pete's and Crestline(Not Football sine they are in the NWCC). It's will help the Firelands because it will add that eighth team to football. Lucas would add distinction, but not the other 3
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2023 21:13:32 GMT -5
Looks like Ashland will be needing a new wrestling coach as well! That's not good.....someone will be getting a good one.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2023 21:05:27 GMT -5
Huron has not had much luck against Ontario or Wynford back in the days... 98-99 they did however beat both to get to regionals... now we don't even play them.. except for last year. Huron's only walk on state soil 1917 defeated East Liverpool and then power house Dayton Stivers (21-15) to win state.. game was played at Ohio Wesleyan and even though the OHSAA was around they were not established enough to put together tournaments.. Those Indians (now Tigers) were lead by Bill Sliker who is a very big name in the history of Evansville College.. Also Addie Klien who was the uncle to Dick Klien .. Indians that year defeated Heidelberg college freshman team.. We still have their trophy in the trophy case! and put them in the hall of fame back in 2017.. State championships in boys basketball are few and far between in erie county Margaretta 1932, St Mary 1936 and 1980 Actually Huron played Ontario last 2 years in a home and home
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2023 13:21:59 GMT -5
IF Holtmann left, Diebler would be the best hire to keep this incoming class intact.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2023 11:01:24 GMT -5
She and her twin sister were little feisty guards at Ontario some years ago. The program has had a revolving door of coaches and could use some stability. I believe the one that stepped down this year had the longest run of late
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2023 10:54:01 GMT -5
I stand corrected. It's II Ontario "struggled" lately, and I should have made the connection because Huron was III many years When Ontario was DIII they had 7 1st or 2nd team All Ohio players. None when in DII.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 22:25:12 GMT -5
2 others doing well.
CBAY, my 2nd largest holding. Has quadrupled since the middle of last year.
SGEN, a smaller holding, has nearly doubled since the first of the year. Now that Pfizer has publicly announced they are going to buy them
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 22:17:34 GMT -5
As a WR, I wouldn't want to be the DB that had to take him on, in coverage or tackling with a head of steam.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 22:04:19 GMT -5
District Dino had some pretty good teams but Ontario and Wynford were always there waiting. Surprisingly a .500 team in the 98-99 season that featured Jim Fisher and Greg Cobb got hot at tournament time and were District champs and then beat Metamora Evergreen in the Regional Semis before losing a close game to Coldwater who eventually made it to the title game. odd you say Ontario because Warriors had good teams but seldom did well at Districts also Not odd, Ontario won 8 DIII titles and Wynford 5, many stopping Huron from winning one
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 21:30:48 GMT -5
Does he live in Sandusky? Perkins is in Sandusky I've always been told it's a Township
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 15:47:13 GMT -5
Duke is hot right now but that draw of Oral Roberts is not something they wanted to see I am sure. That will be a great game in my opinion. Also, I've watched Kent State play multiple times this year and Sincere Carry is a name that will become very familiar to people after this tournament. He could start on a lot of power 5 teams I think Kent State beats Indiana. Well then, you should be able to get some points
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 15:46:13 GMT -5
If you’re looking for help to pick upsets in the bracket I would definitely not sleep on 12 seeded Charleston who has a record of 31-3 or Florida Atlantic. Son, I'll trust trust your judgment because I have no clue But, let the Madness begin! He's your son??
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 15:43:17 GMT -5
Does he live in Sandusky?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 15:41:26 GMT -5
Not that I’ve seen anywhere but different reports I see on the internet all have him as a first round pick. What are the details on his knee injury? Would that be anything that may hold him out of the draft? Nothing "holds you out" of the draft, but could alter a decision.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 15:38:14 GMT -5
With Clear Fork, the 3 Richland County schools now in the MOAC made it at least to the District finals 15 times since 1990
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 15:31:40 GMT -5
He did Pole Vault, something like 13-6 with little or no practice. At the Mansfield Relays, when he was a Senior, he won the Long Jump, Low Hurdles, and placed in the High Jump and Discus. Winning and placing in those specific 4 events in a single major high school meet is unheard of. Your right, doing well in the Pole Vault is a huge point getter in the Decathilon, as it's the most difficult event skill wise
This was when the Mansfield Relays had over 300 of the best teams from not only Ohio but New York, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, West Virginia and Canada. Even teams from Illinois once in awhile
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 14:03:58 GMT -5
Using the MOAC and Crawford Basketball sites, here is the MOAC boys basketball history of district finals berths and beyond. 1991-92 Highland (State Semifinals), Pleasant (District Finals), River Valley (District Finals) 1992-93 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 1993-94 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 1994-95 River Valley (District Finals) 1995-96 Cardington (State Semifinals), Pleasant (Regionals), Elgin (District Finals) 1996-97 Elgin (Regionals), Mt. Gilead (Regionals), Cardington (District Finals) 1997-98 Highland (State Champions) 1998-99 Cardington (Regionals) 1999-00 Elgin (District Finals), Ridgedale (District Finals) 2000-01 Ridgedale (District Finals) 2001-02 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2002-03 Pleasant (Regionals), River Valley (District Finals - lost to Pleasant), Mt. Gilead (District Finals) 2003-04 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2004-05 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2005-06 Ridgedale (Regionals) 2006-07 River Valley (Regionals) 2007-08 Buckeye Valley (District Finals), Highland (District Finals) 2008-09 Highland (District Finals) 2009-10 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2010-11 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2011-12 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2012-13 North Union (District Finals) 2013-14 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2014-15 Pleasant (District Finals) 2015-16 Pleasant (Regionals), Centerburg (District Finals) 2016-17 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2017-18 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2018-19 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2019-20 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2020-21 Shelby (Regionals) 2021-22 No teams reached the district finals or beyond. 2022-23 River Valley (District Finals) As MOAC members - Seasons the School Made the District Finals or beyond:Buckeye Valley (1) Cardington (3) Centerburg (1) Elgin (3) Fairbanks (0) Galion (0) Highland (4) Jonathan Alder (0) Marion Harding (0) Mt. Gilead (2) North Union (1) Ontario (0) Pleasant (5) Ridgedale (3) River Valley (4) Shelby (1) In the 12 seasons between 1995-96 and 2006-2007, 7 of the 10 MOAC schools made regional play or beyond. The 4 seasons between 2016-17 and 2019-2020 were the longest stretch with no schools making the district finals. Pleasant and Shelby are the only schools in the last 10 years to make regional play. In four seasons the MOAC had three or more schools reach the district finals or beyond. In two seasons the MOAC had two or more schools reach the regionals or beyond. For each school, how many years were they in the MOAC?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 14:00:21 GMT -5
Sandusky having a back to the basketball post player would have not benefited them. They were built on speed, chaos and layups. They did not want to play half court basketball, they wanted to get as many shots off as they could. The could sure could have used a 6-7 shot blocker, rim protector and rebounder.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 13:58:15 GMT -5
Anybody who saw Pace play basketball knows that he could have contributed to a D-I program. Would he have been a NBA type big? Nope. HOF football player? Yep. He made the right choice. Just like LeBron was the number 1 football player in Ohio his junior year. Could’ve he went and played college football? Yes, but like with Pace, he made the right choice. VERY easy choice for both of them. Before Pace there was Scott May. I'm not sure he made the right choice. When I was a teenager who ran track, I saw him at the Mansfield Relays. Without a doubt he could have been the best decathlete in history winning multiple world and olympic titles.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 13, 2023 13:53:31 GMT -5
AND he was an NFL great at offensive tackle, not a college basketball player. A lot of people don’t know that Randy Ayers tried to get Orlando to play basketball while at Ohio State as well. Obviously he didn’t and made the right career path. I'm sure he could have "played"....also we're talking Randy Ayers
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 12, 2023 20:38:53 GMT -5
AND he was an NFL great at offensive tackle, not a college basketball player.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 12, 2023 20:34:36 GMT -5
Yep, OSU lost by 14 and Edy had an off game. I suspect he also altered shots or scared them off from taking it to the basket.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2023 17:06:08 GMT -5
If not for open enrollment Ontario would be down too. Most of the housing growth in Ontario is condos and rentals. Build it and they will come. Why buy a house, condo or rent an apartment in Ontario when you can get there using open enrollment? THE EXACT reason why Ohio's Open Enrollment program was created
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2023 15:33:21 GMT -5
Felix Gayle Bruce Three frosh all playing lights out . And Zed as a backup in the post....if he stays. Which of the incoming Freshman next year can come close to Sensibaugh's stats? Which will be needed without Sueing.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2023 15:30:54 GMT -5
What will Painter do next year without a freak of nature?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2023 15:12:59 GMT -5
Can’t count teams that don’t have kids that don’t want to play or towns that lose population. (Mansfield your best example) Privates have advantage of getting boosters to help pay tuition. If st Pete’s can’t find donations to pay for tuition that’s a reflection on the economic condition of mansfield As to publics losing enrollment is a sign of a aging community Catholic charities do plenty for illegal aliens Has Ontario grown since the 90s as you referenced? Maybe that’s where ppl are moving to, i dont know. Yes, Ontario has steadily grown since the 1950's. Not their fault that it's a better place to live due to the academics and low taxes. They've built 2 new schools without the help of the State, unlike 90% of the other Districts in Ohio. And that's without their GM Stamping Plant, that closed 13 years ago. Believe it or not, they have a very good academic standing, even though only 11 Districts in Ohio collect fewer taxes per pupil than Ontario.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2023 14:54:41 GMT -5
Not the case in all areas. The private school enrollments in Mansfield have shrunk, along with the city schools. Mansfield St.Peters, Mansfield Senior AND the no longer in existence Malabar basketball is nothing like it was in the early 90s and earlier. St.Peters now barely has enough players to have a team, The biggest problem is the OHSAA is afraid to enforce their own Bylaws, for fear of protracted lawsuits that could bankrupt them. For example, did all those kids for Rossford that don't live in Rossford, did they have to sit out half the season and tournament the year they showed up in Rossford? Can’t count teams that don’t have kids that don’t want to play or towns that lose population. (Mansfield your best example) Privates have advantage of getting boosters to help pay tuition. If st Pete’s can’t find donations to pay for tuition that’s a reflection on the economic condition of mansfield As to publics losing enrollment is a sign of a aging community Catholic charities do plenty for illegal aliens There was NOTHING in your supposition about towns losing population or kids who don't want to play. Which makes you statement weak. My ONLY example is Mansfield and Richland county, because that's the area I'm most familiar with. Thus, do not making blanket statements, like you in error do. What area is your familiarity with? You better say the entire state, because that's what your proposition implies. It is incorrect to say that boosters help with tuition unless you know for a fact that's the case with all. There are MANY millionaire catholics in Richland county. Do the research before bloviating. For the most part the ENTIRE State of Ohio is losing population due to being an "aging" State. Thus the "rust belt" moniker. I do not know of a single "illegal alien" who's a very good basketball player. Soccer maybe, but not basketball or football.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2023 14:35:37 GMT -5
I agree WF,,,Lex's guards were just fair hence like you said they fell apart against the Sandusky pressure. LW was able to handle it so they won. Speaking of Lex,,,I wonder if the really good Freshman stays there all 4 years or moves on to an IMG type school to play better comp and get exposure. His current exposure has him as the 3rd best Freshman in the county
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