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Post by usramfan on Jun 1, 2020 18:18:08 GMT -5
You should know by now my opinions on this. This is shameful and disgusting and that is putting it mildly. What an absolute embarrassment.
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Post by usramfan on Jun 1, 2020 9:05:11 GMT -5
Yes, and the Norwalk basketball program is something like 52-15 since that day. There was another attempt several years before that one, when I was on the board. In fact, I was the board president that year and a current board member and his wife presented me with petitions signed by quite a number of family members and others, asking for his dismissal. How did you handle that? Had you or any other board members ever received any prior written complaints? I probably would have ripped up the petition because I have a low tolerance for that kind of B.S.🙂
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Post by usramfan on May 30, 2020 7:54:46 GMT -5
Upper has acknowledged both Dieblers and Cameron McCreary as 1,000-point scorers even though a portion of their points were earned at other schools.
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Post by usramfan on May 22, 2020 16:41:50 GMT -5
Perkins Board of Education Zoom meeting is on youtube and there was a brief discussion about Mr. McVeigh. If you skip ahead to the 56:00 mark. Nice to know that the inmates are allowed to run the asylum. Those board members totally threw Mc Veigh under the bus.
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Post by usramfan on May 21, 2020 11:36:17 GMT -5
I'm not sure if any of you subscribe to the Athletic, but Tom Reed and Aaron Portzline wrote an article today basically saying that if the OHSAA doesn't play football this year that the organization wont make it to the end of the year. Now the OHSAA says they will be ok, but even if they do survive it wont be the same as it was. So my guess is anything they can do to make up for what was lost this March and the spring sports too they will take. Any way you could copy and paste that article? I would love to read it.
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Post by usramfan on May 20, 2020 16:49:41 GMT -5
Would have a big impact on the basketball season. Just Think about rest schedules, players, injuries. Football season will start a week earlier to compensate for this. Season would still end at the same time.
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Post by usramfan on May 10, 2020 13:25:04 GMT -5
I've heard rumors that fall and spring sports will flip flop. Only water cooler talk so to speak. I personally haven't read anything. My biggest question is, how can you cut 300M in school funding and justify sports? No truth to that rumor. Though the OHSAA has stressed to its staff to think outside the box when it comes to finding solutions, this idea most definitely did not come from them. It is being thrown out there by a handful of ADs in NE Ohio.
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Post by usramfan on Apr 30, 2020 18:49:18 GMT -5
Of course they're not. They're just the messenger in this case. Saw this on Amherst’s site. amherststeelecomets.com/2020/04/30/ohsaa-update-april-30-2020/While the OHSAA’s No-Contact Regulation has been extended through May 31, 2020, the Ohio Department of Health’s order to close all school facilities extends through June 30, 2020, there is every intent to make sure the No-Contact Regulation stays in place as long as the facility shutdown is in place. Though the current order for shutting school facilities is in place through June 30, our staff felt there would be a chance this could be pulled back to an earlier date. Putting the no-contact period in place until June 1 would provide flexibility in the event it would be. IF it were pulled back to June 15 (example), the OHSAA’s No-Contact Regulation would extended to that same date. If the shutdown remains in effect until June 30, the OHSAA’s No-Contact Regulation will be extended to June 30 as well. Staff simply felt it gave us more flexibility. I just saw this as well.
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Post by usramfan on Apr 30, 2020 17:35:06 GMT -5
The OHSAA is responsible for decisions on when school buildings should be closed or open?? Of course they're not. They're just the messenger in this case.
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Post by usramfan on Apr 30, 2020 17:29:36 GMT -5
Count me among the people who do not understand how the no contact period can cease if the ODE's school facilities closure is still in effect.
And for what it's worth, today's announcement just reinforced my belief that fall sports will start late and have a reduced schedule.
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Post by usramfan on Apr 22, 2020 9:21:57 GMT -5
After hearing what Jerry Snodgrass said yesterday, I think you will see a delayed start to fall sports and a shortened season.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 11, 2020 12:26:33 GMT -5
Oh, and this isn't over yet....the panic inciting. The state is going to be in a state of martial law before this is all over with. I heard rumors that the local schools will be canceling for 14 days at some point. This may be me thinking of the extreme, but part of me wouldn't be surprised if they completely pulled the plug on the state tournament by next weekend.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 11, 2020 7:34:28 GMT -5
I wonder what size ticket allotment each school gets? Each member of team is allotted 4 tickets is my understanding at this time. Figure 20 members per team including coaches translates into maybe 160 or so allowed to go to game. Havn’t heard if all the tickets that were pre sold will be refunded or not. I heard CC had pre sold a fairly large amount. They are basically starting completely over. Previously purchased tickets are voided and refunds will be issued. Going forward, each team member (players and cheerleaders) will be able to purchase 4 tickets. Coaches each get only 2. There will also be a much smaller pass list of "essential" personnel.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 8, 2020 21:33:01 GMT -5
Upper loses 6 Seniors from this years team, 4 of them talented guards. They only have 2 Juniors on their roster this year, but both have played well in the tournament. They will be much younger next year. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think the kid that tore up his knew will be a Junior next year? Hopefully he'll be back and healthy at the start of next season.No, he's a senior this year.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 6, 2020 9:04:54 GMT -5
Upper sold out of its allotment of adult presale tickets, but that is misleading because each team was given only 250 of each type of ticket.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 6, 2020 8:41:10 GMT -5
3 out of the top 8 gone, 2 of them starters. I saw another Upper kid on the bench in street clothes with a hand in a cast. A JV player? He is a JV player that dressed varsity and would have dressed for the tournament.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 5, 2020 10:04:43 GMT -5
Just watched St.Mary & Lucas rerun on BCSN, The clock & buzzer operator had some problems at the end of regulation, Rang the buzzer too soon, before time ran out on Lucas. It forced an early half court shot, That the officials waved off, So they were going by the buzzer not the clock. The announcers commented on the difference. Clock & buzzer controversy is not only at St. Mary, And Mansfield. Yep, that appears to be exactly what happened in our game last week. If the automatic horn feature is engaged, I am not sure how that happens.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 4, 2020 12:15:33 GMT -5
Crawford put on a show . Flashes looked really good. Owned the board got way more 50/50 rebounds. Took care of the ball and made a number of 3’s. Was a very welcome performance considering how underwhelming the 1st game went tonight. Hope she brings the same game on Friday ... cause something big and ugly is coming this way on FridayThere is some truth to this. Napoleon is really, really good.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 4, 2020 12:10:58 GMT -5
Let's be plain. In that situation, grabbing the ball and cradling it after a made basket, was an obvious attempt to give Willard a few extra seconds to set their inbound and full court defense. Why should the officials blow the whistle and give a warning, which would actually have given a reward of more time? It was unsportsmanlike conduct by the coach and/or player, whether that was the actual call or not. The official did the right thing.   This exact situation happened to our girls last year. A delay of game warning was issued - which is exactly what they wanted since they were out of timeouts - but it should have been a technical foul for unsporting conduct.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 4, 2020 9:15:12 GMT -5
I've had two different people who were there tell me that the technical was due to a second delay of game. They were warned earlier in the game.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 1, 2020 9:41:07 GMT -5
I have since been in communication with two officials, one of whom spoke with the official who made the call.🙂 It was really fascinating to hear how officials process things in their minds, eyes, and ears in the few seconds they have to make decisions. The responsibilities are shared and prioritized depending on where the play happens on the floor. If they're primarily responsible for the play, then they're taught to stay on it and listen for the horn. Probably the same with the official on the baseline. The official furthest back up the floor should have helped with the clock and and horn since he was least responsible for the play itself and therefore could try to see both. Officials have to use the tools that are available to them. Having those tools - the clock and horn - appearing to be in conflict with each other makes a tight situation that much more complicated. In that case, there wasn't anything present to definitely say the shot wasn't in time. You have to stay with the call in that case. If this is the case who in the hell lets them play a tournament game in a gym where the horn and clock are out of sync, that is just plain stupid. I've never been fond of the way that school does business. Upper's locker room was still locked when the team arrived and the cheerleaders stood around for several minutes before anyone showed them where to go. The one guy who helps set up the gym tried to say the players couldn't be on the floor at all before they started the pregame clock. And when Mansfield got the rebound of Young's missed FT at the end of the 1st OT, the timer initially took it upon himself to put time back on the clock - to the time it showed while Young was shooting the FTs.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 29, 2020 15:26:04 GMT -5
I have since been in communication with two officials, one of whom spoke with the official who made the call.🙂 It was really fascinating to hear how officials process things in their minds, eyes, and ears in the few seconds they have to make decisions. The responsibilities are shared and prioritized depending on where the play happens on the floor. If they're primarily responsible for the play, then they're taught to stay on it and listen for the horn. Probably the same with the official on the baseline. The official furthest back up the floor should have helped with the clock and and horn since he was least responsible for the play itself and therefore could try to see both. Officials have to use the tools that are available to them. Having those tools - the clock and horn - appearing to be in conflict with each other makes a tight situation that much more complicated. In that case, there wasn't anything present to definitely say the shot wasn't in time. You have to stay with the call in that case. Copied from the OHSAA website, the instructions for the official Timer for the basketball game. Note the sections on EQUIPMENT and NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME RULES COVERAGE: Rule 2-4-2: The referee shall designate the official timepiece and its operator. Rule 2-12: Duties and responsibilities of the timer are indicated. An efficient timer will carefully study these sections and become thoroughly familiar with all their responsibilities. The timer shall sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission, a time-out (60- or 30-second) and the 15-second interval to replace a disqualified or injured player, or a player directed to leave the game. The timer shall also signal when the time has expired for an intermission, a charged time-out or a replacement interval. EQUIPMENT: Electric clock timer and one stopwatch, or a table-clock timer and one or two stopwatches. A gong, loud siren or electric air horn to signal the end of playing time. When present, a red/LED light is permitted to end a quarter or extra period; otherwise, the audible signal ends the quarter or extra period. BEFORE THE GAME: 1. The official timer should ascertain the game starting time and suggest that the referee and coaches synchronize their watches. 2. Review the official signals for starting the clock, time-out, a foul or violation. 3. Notify the scorer 10 minutes prior to the starting time. TIMING REGULATIONS: 1. Playing time shall be: a. For teams of high school age —four quarters of eight minutes each with intermissions of one minute after the first and third quarters and 10 minutes between halves. Halftime may be extended to a maximum of 15 minutes upon proper notification. b. For teams younger than in (a) —four quarters of six minutes each with intermissions same as for (a). 2. Overtime Play: a. If the score is tied at the end of the second half, play shall continue without change of baskets for one or more extra periods, with a one-minute intermission before each. b. The length of each extra period shall be four minutes (or half the time of a regulation quarter for non-varsity contests). c. As many such extra periods as are needed to break the tie shall be played. Game ends, if, at end of any extra period, the score is not tied. d. Extra periods are an extension of the fourth quarter. 3. A time-out charged to a team is of either 60-seconds or 30-second duration unless both teams are ready to resume play sooner. 4. No time-out is charged to a team when: a. The floor official grants a player’s request because of displaced eyeglasses or lens. b. A correctable error as in 2-10, or a timing, scoring or alternating possession mistake has been prevented or rectified. 5. The sounding of the scorer’s signal or game horn does not cause the game timepiece to be stopped. START THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. A tossed ball is legally tapped when play is started by a jump. 2. The ball touches a player on the court during a throw-in (if clock has been stopped). 3. An official signals “start the clock.” If he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started unless an official specifically signals that it should not be started. 4. The ball touches or is touched by a player on the court provided the ball is to remain live if the free throw is missed. In these cases, the official will give the start-the-clock signal, but if he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started when it is apparent the ball touches a player and is to remain live. STOP THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. Any period ends. 2. An official gives a time-out signal. The official will order time-out when: a. A foul is called by holding hand with fingers closed at arm’s length above head. b. A jump/held ball is declared by giving the jump-ball signal (holding thumbs up at shoulder height away from body and motioning upward with both arms extended). c. A violation occurs by giving the time-out signal (holding hand with fingers extended at arm’s length above head) after which the proper violation signal is given. d. There is to be a charged time-out, or an official’s time-out for a technical foul, or other stoppage indicated by a floor official who holds a hand at arm’s length above the head with fingers extended. NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME: 1. If a watch is being used as the official timepiece, place it so that the timer may see it and the ball. The watch must be stopped the instant the signal ending the game is sounded. 2. When a timing device other than a watch is the official timepiece, the timer must assist in determining the position of the ball when time expires. 3. Some timers, in order to avoid misunderstanding concerning the position of the ball when time expires, have one person watch the official timepiece and count aloud 10 - 9 - 8 - 7, etc., while another person watches the ball and notes its position at the exact moment time expires. 4. If a quarter or extra period ends and: a. The timer has been unable to make an official hear the signal, the timer must immediately notify the official. b. The timing signal fails or is not heard by an official, the timer must be prepared to advise the referee as to whether the ball was in flight when time expired, or whether a foul occurred before or after the period had ended. c. The timing signal is not heard by the officials, testimony of the timer may determine whether a score shall count or a foul shall be charged, unless the referee has information which would alter the situation.Is the game over with time still on the clock?
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Post by usramfan on Feb 29, 2020 14:17:01 GMT -5
I have since been in communication with two officials, one of whom spoke with the official who made the call.🙂 It was really fascinating to hear how officials process things in their minds, eyes, and ears in the few seconds they have to make decisions.
The responsibilities are shared and prioritized depending on where the play happens on the floor. If they're primarily responsible for the play, then they're taught to stay on it and listen for the horn. Probably the same with the official on the baseline. The official furthest back up the floor should have helped with the clock and and horn since he was least responsible for the play itself and therefore could try to see both.
Officials have to use the tools that are available to them. Having those tools - the clock and horn - appearing to be in conflict with each other makes a tight situation that much more complicated. In that case, there wasn't anything present to definitely say the shot wasn't in time. You have to stay with the call in that case.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 29, 2020 13:09:14 GMT -5
Terrible call. MS clearly robbed of this win. i’ve never saw an official look at the clock and the ball during a frantic moment like this, they are watching ball and listening for the buzzer and clearly missed this one. MS robbed. How about the points for upper taken off the scoreboard after a foul shot was made... how often is a foul called, then the player goes to foul line shoots and makes the first of a 1 & 1, then a time out called by Upper and after coming back on the floor to shoot the 2nd foul shot the refs decide to take the point off the score board and give Upper the ball on the baseline. Talk about robbed. Watching this game - we can say robbed multiple times for both teams. Bottom-line... Tigers player made a poor decision by trying to score with 12 seconds left instead of dribble away from basket and running clock till fouled. Don’t put yourself in a position at the end of the game to allow the refs to make a decision that could cost you the game! Even though it worked against us, we weren't robbed. The situation was handled correctly, though it shouldn't have gotten to that point.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 27, 2020 23:33:07 GMT -5
Do away with the PASS option. Yep. That is exactly what the NW District did 4-5 years ago.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 27, 2020 7:53:22 GMT -5
Can anyone confirm? I've been told that at Bucyrus this Friday a ticket is required for both games AND tickets for both games MUST be purchased at the door. No pre-sale. Yes, this is accurate. Split session. All ticket sales at the door.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 24, 2020 17:18:47 GMT -5
So you can't help yourself for being so mean spirited and full of disdain. No one but you, can change that. "I speak as spoken to." You are quite familiar with that sentence, are you not?
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Post by usramfan on Feb 24, 2020 15:54:40 GMT -5
bighoss says, " Senior with the luckiest draw in history". THEN.... You say, "Or the team to the west..." THEN.... jm says, "So... MV?" Unless there's a secret code, the only MV "team" I'm aware of is Mt.Vernon. Wiser, not wise ars. Maybe geography should be a required subject. Comprende? You obviously can't figure out that those are a person's initials.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 21, 2020 9:47:31 GMT -5
As a scorekeeper, one of my biggest fears is that not catching mistakes like the ones described could possibly affect the outcome of a game. That is why I am so particular about some of the procedures that take place during the game in and around the scorer's table.
For what it's worth, permitting the wrong player to shoot free throws is one of the five correctable errors (Rule 2-10-1c). Furthermore, if Senior knowingly allowed the wrong player to shoot FTs, that player should have been assessed a technical foul for unsporting conduct (Rule 10-4-6f).
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Post by usramfan on Feb 11, 2020 21:38:08 GMT -5
Amazing how much one player stands out when she's not there.
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