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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 28, 2017 22:49:30 GMT -5
D4 Region 14 Quarterfinal
Highland is making their 7th playoff appearance and Memorial their 17th
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Post by galion on Oct 28, 2017 22:52:03 GMT -5
Running clock
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 0:41:01 GMT -5
If Highland puts forth the effort that they did against Northmor then I would agree with galion. However, if Highland responds well, plays their best game to date, cuts out the turnovers, and cuts out the mental errors leading to big plays and/or poor field position then I absolutely expect them to make the game competitive. If they can do the above and also find a way to get a few takeaways and create a few big plays of their own then I think they can pull this one out. However, nothing less then stated will be acceptable in this one.
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Post by galion on Oct 29, 2017 5:52:13 GMT -5
I hate to break the news to you but the Bloom Carrol and Northmor games essentially prove that this is not a quality D4 playoff team. They have played NOBODY close to the level of the team that they are playing in St. Mary. That kind of nullifies the whole "well if they play the greatest game of their lives then maybe" argument. As bad as this will likely be at least they didn't drop 1 more spot and end up in Shelby. D4 playoff football is a whole different animal than what the schedule they play can prepare them for. When 2 of your 3 signature wins are teams that Galion beat and the other is a D7 opponent it doesn't bode well.
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 11:52:42 GMT -5
You are comparing wins to Galion wins and considering them the same when Galions defense surrendered 35 to River Valley and Highlands surrendered 7. Galion surrendered 20 points to an Ontario team missing 10 starters including Cam Todd. Highland surrendered 26 to the whole healthy squad. Galion did not even put up a fight with Pleasant, though it was a scrimmage Highland did compete with Pleasant early in the year. Bloom Carroll is a playoff team nonetheless. How's the basketball and wrestling seasons coming?
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Post by galion on Oct 29, 2017 12:26:10 GMT -5
You’re going to find out in another week. You seem to forget that Galion made the playoffs while in the NCC regularity after feasting on small schools. I’ve seen this movie plenty of times before I already know how it ends.
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 12:34:28 GMT -5
I remember that. I see where your coming from. To each their own, you think it's going to be a running clock, I think it's gonna be a competitive ball game. We'll find out before long.
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Post by galion on Oct 29, 2017 15:34:12 GMT -5
Just look at the schedules of the 2 teams and tell me how in any way, shape, or form Highland could possibly be prepared to play at St Mary's level at St Mary's home field. Calpreps has this at 35-13 on a neutral field and they haven't even factored in Highland's loss to Northmor, St. Mary's win against Wapak, or the site of the game yet.
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Post by usa70pp on Oct 29, 2017 15:53:20 GMT -5
You've convinced me, I just got off the phone with Chad Carpenter and he agrees with you. Highland will not be making the trip to St. Mary's in order to save fuel for the buses for regular school driving. He thanked you for your astute insight and advice.
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Post by blazer on Oct 29, 2017 15:56:30 GMT -5
Galion is right. This will not be close.
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 16:05:14 GMT -5
You've convinced me, I just got off the phone with Chad Carpenter and he agrees with you. Highland will not be making the trip to St. Mary's in order to save fuel for the buses for regular school driving. He thanked you for your astute insight and advice. That's awesome haha |
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Post by blazer on Oct 29, 2017 16:10:27 GMT -5
If there was a running clock in the first half, it would be used in this game. Compare the KMAC to the WBL and let us know what you find out.
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 16:14:37 GMT -5
if the word on St Marys running the wing-t and throwing about as much as Highland does is true then even if it is lopsided the clock is going to move too quickly to let it be a running clock lol
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 16:15:27 GMT -5
If there was a running clock in the first half, it would be used in this game. Compare the KMAC to the WBL and let us know what you find out. Where did I compare the KMAC to the WBL? Do you know how to read buddy? |
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Post by blazer on Oct 29, 2017 16:40:27 GMT -5
Easy Stan, not directing my comment to you. Just stating the KMAC and WBL are not comparable, in general.
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Post by galion on Oct 29, 2017 16:42:39 GMT -5
if the word on St Marys running the wing-t and throwing about as much as Highland does is true then even if it is lopsided the clock is going to move too quickly to let it be a running clock lol That all depends on how well they control the LOS and their speed advantage. I'll tell right now Shelby could put 50 points on Highland in the 1st half without putting the ball in the air one time. If Highland can keep St Mary's from breaking long runs then maybe they can stay within 40. Problem is that teams that are prolific at running the ball tend to defend the run well also. If Highland can't run the ball and keep their offense on the field the defense gets wore down even quicker and long runs start happening frequently. I'm not going to lie the 12 points that they put up against Northmor concerns me. With that schedule they should have been able to roll up over 40 points against more that just Cardington and Mt gilead. That just doesn't suggest to me the offensive line play needed to succeed in this region. It is stacked. The 5 seed Bellevue is 7-3. The 3 schools that beat them are 30-0 and 2 of them are in this region. The other problem is defense. Small school football tends to focus more on shutting down a teams best player(s). Larger schools tend to have more athletes so they tend to be more system oriented, especially the playoff teams. That requires a whole lot more preparation and discipline to defend. I'm not saying that Highland shouldn't get on the bus, I'm just saying that it is one h e l l of a hill to climb right out of the gate. |
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 16:43:36 GMT -5
Easy Stan, not directing my comment to you. Just stating the KMAC and WBL are not comparable, in general. Ah dang it, jumped the gun lol I agree with the conferences not being comparable. |
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Post by stanley on Oct 29, 2017 16:45:11 GMT -5
if the word on St Marys running the wing-t and throwing about as much as Highland does is true then even if it is lopsided the clock is going to move too quickly to let it be a running clock lol That all depends on how well they control the LOS and their speed advantage. I'll tell right now Shelby could put 50 points on Highland in the 1st half without putting the ball in the air one time. If Highland can keep St Mary's from breaking long runs then maybe they can stay within 40. Problem is that teams that are prolific at running the ball tend to defend the run well also. If Highland can't run the ball and keep their offense on the field the defense gets wore down even quicker and long runs start happening frequently. I'm not going to lie the 12 points that they put up against Northmor concerns me. With that schedule they should have been able to roll up over 40 points against more that just Cardington and Mt gilead. That just doesn't suggest to me the offensive line play needed to succeed in this region. It is stacked. The 5 seed Bellevue is 7-3. The 3 schools that beat them are 30-0 and 2 of them are in this region. The other problem is defense. Small school football tends to focus more on shutting down a teams best player(s). Larger schools tend to have more athletes so they tend to be more system oriented, especially the playoff teams. That requires a whole lot more preparation and discipline to defend. I'm not saying that Highland shouldn't get on the bus, I'm just saying that it is one h e l l of a hill to climb right out of the gate. It will be one hell of a hill to climb, I do agree with you on that. |
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 2, 2017 8:56:49 GMT -5
Drew Pasteur: Memorial by 21
calpreps: Memorial 38 Highland 12
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Post by stanley on Nov 3, 2017 19:18:16 GMT -5
Highland with 4 turnovers and allowing 2 big plays. Resulting in the first half that Galion and Blazer had suggested would come. I thought Highland would keep it tight, they currently are not. Before the crow comes in, I did say they needed to take care of themselves...and if they did not take care of themselves then an ugly score would be the result.
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Post by stanley on Nov 3, 2017 19:39:32 GMT -5
With that being said. Kudos to St Mary's. That squad is damn good!
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Post by galion on Nov 3, 2017 20:04:11 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, I was really hoping to be wrong on this one. I always root against the privates.
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Post by rib1 on Nov 3, 2017 20:23:38 GMT -5
Grand Lake St. Marys. Is Public. Western Ohio.
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Post by osu2016 on Nov 3, 2017 20:24:11 GMT -5
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Post by stanley on Nov 3, 2017 20:26:57 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, I was really hoping to be wrong on this one. I always root against the privates. Just the way it go's. Highland didn't take enough care of themselves. St marys first drive Highland forced them to punt. Seemed pretty optimistic. St Mary's scored on a drive. St Mary's scored on another drive, but Highland made them do it on 4th and 3. Highland was not doing well, but they were at least taking care of themselves at this point and the game seemed manageable at 14-0. After this though the first of 3 interceptions happened, Highland gave up a big play or 2 and it began to get more separated. I respect the squad for coming out energetic and doing their best in the second half with some intensity despite being down 41-0. That does show some character. You didn't have to root against St Marys Memorial, St Mary's is the name of the town it's a public school 😉 we'll take the support though! |
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Post by deathfromabove on Nov 4, 2017 2:10:44 GMT -5
Why is it that people see a Saint in front of a name they think that it's got to be a parochial school. I suppose he thinks St. Henry is a parochial school. Galion please check it out first to see if the school is name after a town or the church please. Now Galion let's say 5 Hail Mary's and 4 Our Father's.  |
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Post by Waterboy on Nov 4, 2017 11:55:38 GMT -5
Congrats on the season Scots! Gonna miss some of those boys next year but the core of this team will be back and they will surely make another run.
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Post by greenman on Nov 5, 2017 12:03:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, I was really hoping to be wrong on this one. I always root against the privates. Wow, thanks for that bit of honest perspective. Wish it would have been there to color our discussion a week or so ago about public/private separated playoffs. You know, that private school kids are still Ohioans, Americans, regular kids, too, just like the ones at the publics? Here I almost felt bad about arguing with you. Turns out, you're just an envious horse's ***, like I first figured. |
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Post by 4 on Nov 5, 2017 13:03:38 GMT -5
Shelby plays st Mary’s at Marion Harding stadium, gonna check that one out. Shelby looks like a fun team to watch this year
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Post by stanley on Nov 5, 2017 13:16:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, I was really hoping to be wrong on this one. I always root against the privates. Wow, thanks for that bit of honest perspective. Wish it would have been there to color our discussion a week or so ago about public/private separated playoffs. You know, that private school kids are still Ohioans, Americans, regular kids, too, just like the ones at the publics? Here I almost felt bad about arguing with you. Turns out, you're just an envious horse's jack wagon, like I first figured. Leave the dude alone he can root for/against whoever he wants. Everyone has their own formula to decide who they root for in games that they have no official ties or interests to. If he usually cheers for publics over privates he is aloud to. If this is related to an argument on a separate thread take it up on that thread. In this particular game it ended up not even mattering as both schools were public schools. |
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