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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 3, 2017 18:45:39 GMT -5
One kid = talent in the system? So far as your soccer theory goes, you are wrong. True if you took them off of the soccer field today many would lack the muscle mass and explosiveness to contribute right away on the football field. But if they never started playing soccer in the first place and trained for football instead of soccer that would not be the case. READ, READ, READ again, don't just bloviate. I explained away your theory that Ontario doesn't have any "talent" coming. That example is but ONE of the MANY I put forth. More bloviating. You know NOTHING about Ontario soccer specifically and soccer in general. You are OBVIOUSLY wrong. You're so ignorant about soccer that you don't even know that they lift weights. If you knew ANYTHING about soccer you would know it is a HUGE advantage to be stronger than your opponent. It is just as important if not more so in soccer to be "explosive". If you were't so unknowledgeable about soccer you would know this. Forwards and midfielders(do you have a clue who they are??) MUST be able to "explode" past the player defending them, using not only quickness and speed but also strength to "beat" him. PAY ATTENTION!!! AGAIN, except for one player Ontario has a bunch of little guys. Ontario beat Lex for the District Title and most of Ontario's players were a lot smaller than Lexington's players. Only one player on the team looks like a football player, right or wrong his mommy won't let him play football. You seem to forget about that scenario. As a former football player, I find it sad that a lot of parents won't let their son's play football now, due to concussions and knee injuries. ALSO, If you were a good sized athlete and COULD play QB, RB or WR in today's high scoring offenses, would you rather play soccer on a Wednesday afternoon in front of a 100 fans or play football on a Friday night in front of 2000+ fans. No marching bands for soccer, no cheerleaders for soccer, 90% of those in the stands at soccer games are parents, family friends, relatives and girl friends. The "student section" = maybe 25 kids. AGAIN...most kids who play soccer don't like to hit or be hit. What good would they be on a football team? I KNOW you don't know this. Bay, who beat the Ontario soccer team 4-2 in the DII Regional Semis also has a 10-0 football team. PLEASE, do not tell us football needs soccer players. AND they have twice as many soccer players than Ontario does. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 3, 2017 18:50:11 GMT -5
Soooo, who's the next coach for the Warriors?? On staff? Hire from outside? Sad as it may be, I heard they might hire a coach they fired before who the players really disliked, strictly because he still teaches in the system. |
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Post by galion on Nov 3, 2017 19:45:43 GMT -5
One kid = talent in the system? So far as your soccer theory goes, you are wrong. True if you took them off of the soccer field today many would lack the muscle mass and explosiveness to contribute right away on the football field. But if they never started playing soccer in the first place and trained for football instead of soccer that would not be the case. READ, READ, READ again, don't just bloviate. I explained away your theory that Ontario doesn't have any "talent" coming. That example is but ONE of the MANY I put forth. More bloviating. You know NOTHING about Ontario soccer specifically and soccer in general. You are OBVIOUSLY wrong. You're so ignorant about soccer that you don't even know that they lift weights. If you knew ANYTHING about soccer you would know it is a HUGE advantage to be stronger than your opponent. It is just as important if not more so in soccer to be "explosive". If you were't so unknowledgeable about soccer you would know this. Forwards and midfielders(do you have a clue who they are??) MUST be able to "explode" past the player defending them, using not only quickness and speed but also strength to "beat" him. PAY ATTENTION!!! AGAIN, except for one player Ontario has a bunch of little guys. Ontario beat Lex for the District Title and most of Ontario's players were a lot smaller than Lexington's players. Only one player on the team looks like a football player, right or wrong his mommy won't let him play football. You seem to forget about that scenario. ALSO, If you were a good sized athlete and COULD play QB, RB or WR in today's high scoring offenses, would you rather play soccer on a Wednesday afternoon in front of a 100 fans or play football on a Friday night in front of 2000+ fans. No marching bands for soccer, no cheerleaders for soccer, 90% of those in the stands at soccer games are parents, family friends, relatives and girl friends. The "student section" = maybe 25 kids. AGAIN...most kids who play soccer don't like to hit or be hit. What good would they be on a football team? After a post like that you really shouldn't be throwing around words like ignorant. First, I haven't lived my entire like in Galion. I happened to go to college at a D3 soccer power that actually has won multiple national titles. Oh soccer expert have you ever heard of a soccer coach named Jay Martin? I knew soccer players very well. To make the statement that soccer players play soccer simply because "they don't like to hit or get hit" is just plain ignorant. Just because a kid enjoys the sport of soccer doesn't mean he deserves to be labelled as "soft". In fact, I recall an all-state thrower from Ontario a few years ago who happened to prefer soccer to football. I promise you that kid wasn't soft. However, it's not as ignorant as equating the offseason weightlifting programs of soccer and football teams in terms of what they are designed to do. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 3, 2017 20:03:57 GMT -5
College soccer, as ALL college athletic teams, even at the DIII level, is completely different than high school soccer. Watching DIII National Title level soccer played tells you nothing about about DII Ohio high school soccer.
If you're 5-7 145 and REALLY like to hit and be hit why in the heck aren't you playing football??
You are wrong again. A 5-7 145 soccer player that lifts weights will look like the 5-7 145 football player that lifts weights. REMEMBER there are very few 6-0 185 RBs playing high school soccer. There are ZERO 6-1 215 hard nosed LB types playing high school soccer. There are ZERO 230-330 kids playing soccer. All those kids look different due to lifting.
"Soft" is your word not mine. The all state thrower you mention is one of a kind in the history of Ontario soccer and most likely would one of a kind at all high schools that have soccer. YOU tell us why he didn't want to play football. AGAIN, maybe mommy said you can't play football. That IS happening more and more.
You know nothing about Ontario soccer.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Nov 3, 2017 20:28:15 GMT -5
Soooo, who's the next coach for the Warriors?? On staff? Hire from outside? Sad as it may be, I heard they might hire a coach they fired before who the players really disliked, strictly because he still teaches in the system. Sounds like Bloom. I saw he was an assistant this last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 21:22:48 GMT -5
galion, the question of playing in front of 100 fans on Wednesday or 2000+ on Friday can be answered by asking if a kid would rather play in a regional game on a winning team or go 2-8?
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Post by woodysboy on Nov 3, 2017 21:44:46 GMT -5
I think they will hire from the outside. I know that two years ago they liked a couple of coaches from around the MOAC.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 4, 2017 11:31:52 GMT -5
galion, the question of playing in front of 100 fans on Wednesday or 2000+ on Friday can be answered by asking if a kid would rather play in a regional game on a winning team or go 2-8? AGAIN, Bay beat Ontario in the Regional soccer tournament and has twice as many soccer players in their program as Ontario. AND their football team is 10-0. Do not tell us a football team needs soccer players. Do not make the generalization that kids play soccer because of a losing football team. You don't have to look further than under your nose. What about Lex football and soccer? |
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Post by galiontiger on Nov 5, 2017 18:38:43 GMT -5
Well I was shocked that Chris left Ontario so soon. I've heard no reasons for it, nor do I really care. The past is the past. I read Willard rattling off about him not wanting a 5'6" 160 pound DB/WR. Well I do know Willard is wrong about that analysis. Chris loves short and fast wide receivers. I remember a couple of years we had a discussion about that. He wants speed at the wide receiver slot. He doesn't need size. I think it's behind his offense philosophy. He wants to get the ball to the wide-outs as quickly as possible and let them use their speed. That's why we struggled behind my son at quarterback when he first got there. Chase's talent is he throws the ball down field. Chris's plan is to throw a lot sideline-to-sideline and out patterns.....so he want's those small fast receivers. Me...I say give me a wide receiver who's tall and who has decent speed...all day long.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 6, 2017 1:18:03 GMT -5
Not true, I said 5-6 145 DB/WR. With Ontario's Soph QB this year they threw it down field a lot. Through 5 games he had 13 TDs and only 3 INTs, before breaking his ankle. Could be that he had a 6-2 195 State Meet finalist in the 200 meters as a WR.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 8:18:03 GMT -5
That is a good point galiontiger. Most of the Ontario passes were less than 10 yard throws getting the ball out quick. They definitely would take a down field shot every now and then but you could see their plan was to quickly get the ball to their faster guys.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 6, 2017 19:52:02 GMT -5
Wrong, before their Soph QB's broken ankle after week 5, they threw down field a lot to their 6-2 195 State Meet sprinter. scootieDude can't even remember the 2 long downfield TD passes against Lex in week one. He wipes those kind of things out of his small mind.
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Post by footballer on Nov 6, 2017 20:02:15 GMT -5
WF do you know if Ontario’s line will be any better next year. They have struggled the past few years.
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Post by ohioraised on Nov 7, 2017 9:19:31 GMT -5
Wrong, before their Soph QB's broken ankle after week 5, they threw down field a lot to their 6-2 195 State Meet sprinter. scootieDude can't even remember the 2 long downfield TD passes against Lex in week one. He wipes those kind of things out of his small mind. Another fabrication from the old man. Ontario scored 3 Tds in that game. The first was on the 26 yard line, thrown and caught at the goal line. The next was inside the 6 yard line and thrown just past the line of scrimmage on a scramble and ran in by the receiver. The final was a kick off return. There was one pass thrown for over 5 yards for a score in this game. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 7, 2017 17:09:49 GMT -5
WF do you know if Ontario’s line will be any better next year. They have struggled the past few years. 8 underclassmen 210 or more. You have to ask them, how hard do they want to work at being better. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 6:38:07 GMT -5
Wrong, before their Soph QB's broken ankle after week 5, they threw down field a lot to their 6-2 195 State Meet sprinter. Dude can't even remember the 2 long downfield TD passes against Lex in week one. He wipes those kind of things out of his small mind. Another fabrication from the old man. Ontario scored 3 Tds in that game. The first was on the 26 yard line, thrown and caught at the goal line. The next was inside the 6 yard line and thrown just past the line of scrimmage on a scramble and ran in by the receiver. The final was a kick off return. There was one pass thrown for over 5 yards for a score in this game. I guess I cannot remember what didn't happen. |
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Post by ohs2017 on Nov 10, 2017 0:52:26 GMT -5
First, thank you for your input. Seriously, that was truly enlightening. I can see why you jumped to the conclusion that you did, but there is a flaw in your logic. Hawkins doesn't treat players equally. If he considers you special then for all intents and purposes the rules don't apply to you as they do for others. We had some "special" players here who literally dictated what position they'd play and what side of the ball they'd play on. Heck, I know of a couple who were allowed to skip practicing altogether for weeks on end and just suit up for games. It's almost shocking that we couldn't win any playoff games while he was here. Clearly, if that kid's father is donating the stuff that Hawkins wants then he would find his way onto the special list as well. Most likely his "personal reasons" had more to do with the talent in the system. In Galion he didn't have to compete with basketball for the best athletes, at least not to the extent that he does in Ontario. And he certainly didn't have a well established soccer program to contend with. Even more to the point, the coaches of neither of those teams at Ontario are going to feel the least bit of intimidation or pressure from him to share and neither are the kids involved in those programs. He's most likely a victim of the grass is not always greener and there is no quick fix to his problems here like there was in Galion with a good group of athletes coming up and a move to a small school conference imminent. Read again, slowly with purpose. I did not "jump to a conclusion" Most "stuff" was donated before Hawkins. I'm not aware of anything Hawkins "wanted", that wasn't already there. Hawkins got the 2 best athletes on last year's basketball team to play football for the first time since they were in 8th grade. This year he got 3 basketball "athletes" out for football for the first time. There is only one soccer player that would make a difference on the football team, IF he was tough enough and his mommy would let him play football. If you ever watched a soccer game you would know that there are never 240-300# soccer players. Ontario's very good QB that broke his ankle at the mid-point of the season was on the varsity basketball team last year as a Freshman. I'm sure Hawkins didn't need any 5-6 140 DBs or WRs. I've been told that THE STAR, THE STUD on both sides of the ball in Galion's "Biddy" football program the past 2 years lives in Ontario. He was the biggest, fastest, toughest kid they'd seen in many years. Due to that, the parents of Galion kids would no longer allow him to play in their program. His father was a 6-2 195 big time multi sport athlete. "No talent in the system"? Talent wise why wouldn't Hawkins want to coach this team next year?? Only 5 Seniors made significant contributions this year. With 12 starters lost to injuries, many of them underclassmen, a lot of young players got playing time. Ontario's talented Soph QB only finished TWO MOAC league games, before breaking his ankle. Yet he was voted 2nd Team All-League. Unheard of!! At the time he had 13 TDs and only 3 INTs. Before the avalanche of injures Ontario lost 4 games to Highland, Harding, NU and BV by a total of 20 points. For you that's an average of 5 ppg  , they led in the 4th quarter in all 4 games. The program has lost so often for so many years at all levels, they didn't know how to win close games. IMO, if the injures would have been minimal, they could have "competed" with all MOAC teams expect for Clear Fork and Pleasant. "No talent in the system"?? Still a lot of young kids open enrolling from Mansfield. "No tlent in the system"?? ? You need to do some research before speaking of what you do not know. You've got a PM. 12 starters lost to injury? You high? Name 7 of those 12 then bc ik for damn sure there were not 12! |
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Post by ohs2017 on Nov 10, 2017 0:56:38 GMT -5
One kid = talent in the system? So far as your soccer theory goes, you are wrong. True if you took them off of the soccer field today many would lack the muscle mass and explosiveness to contribute right away on the football field. But if they never started playing soccer in the first place and trained for football instead of soccer that would not be the case. READ, READ, READ again, don't just bloviate. I explained away your theory that Ontario doesn't have any "talent" coming. That example is but ONE of the MANY I put forth. More bloviating. You know NOTHING about Ontario soccer specifically and soccer in general. You are OBVIOUSLY wrong. You're so ignorant about soccer that you don't even know that they lift weights. If you knew ANYTHING about soccer you would know it is a HUGE advantage to be stronger than your opponent. It is just as important if not more so in soccer to be "explosive". If you were't so unknowledgeable about soccer you would know this. Forwards and midfielders(do you have a clue who they are??) MUST be able to "explode" past the player defending them, using not only quickness and speed but also strength to "beat" him. PAY ATTENTION!!! AGAIN, except for one player Ontario has a bunch of little guys. Ontario beat Lex for the District Title and most of Ontario's players were a lot smaller than Lexington's players. Only one player on the team looks like a football player, right or wrong his mommy won't let him play football. You seem to forget about that scenario. As a former football player, I find it sad that a lot of parents won't let their son's play football now, due to concussions and knee injuries. ALSO, If you were a good sized athlete and COULD play QB, RB or WR in today's high scoring offenses, would you rather play soccer on a Wednesday afternoon in front of a 100 fans or play football on a Friday night in front of 2000+ fans. No marching bands for soccer, no cheerleaders for soccer, 90% of those in the stands at soccer games are parents, family friends, relatives and girl friends. The "student section" = maybe 25 kids. AGAIN...most kids who play soccer don't like to hit or be hit. What good would they be on a football team? I KNOW you don't know this. Bay, who beat the Ontario soccer team 4-2 in the DII Regional Semis also has a 10-0 football team. PLEASE, do not tell us football needs soccer players. AND they have twice as many soccer players than Ontario does. Very true no soccer players would make good football players on that team! Ontario has no talent coming up in football talent has gone down since my sophomore year we went 6-4. And it’s continually getting worse! Ik if last years team under Hawkins would have played in this years MOAC we would have went at least 6-4 if not 7-3 or 8-2 and made the playoffs! |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2017 1:15:29 GMT -5
Nope, you don't know how to win. Players with attitudes like yours discourage young players. Be a leader not a distraction. I wouldn't want to be on a team with you either.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2017 1:19:45 GMT -5
Read again, slowly with purpose. I did not "jump to a conclusion" Most "stuff" was donated before Hawkins. I'm not aware of anything Hawkins "wanted", that wasn't already there. Hawkins got the 2 best athletes on last year's basketball team to play football for the first time since they were in 8th grade. This year he got 3 basketball "athletes" out for football for the first time. There is only one soccer player that would make a difference on the football team, IF he was tough enough and his mommy would let him play football. If you ever watched a soccer game you would know that there are never 240-300# soccer players. Ontario's very good QB that broke his ankle at the mid-point of the season was on the varsity basketball team last year as a Freshman. I'm sure Hawkins didn't need any 5-6 140 DBs or WRs. I've been told that THE STAR, THE STUD on both sides of the ball in Galion's "Biddy" football program the past 2 years lives in Ontario. He was the biggest, fastest, toughest kid they'd seen in many years. Due to that, the parents of Galion kids would no longer allow him to play in their program. His father was a 6-2 195 big time multi sport athlete. "No talent in the system"? Talent wise why wouldn't Hawkins want to coach this team next year?? Only 5 Seniors made significant contributions this year. With 12 starters lost to injuries, many of them underclassmen, a lot of young players got playing time. Ontario's talented Soph QB only finished TWO MOAC league games, before breaking his ankle. Yet he was voted 2nd Team All-League. Unheard of!! At the time he had 13 TDs and only 3 INTs. Before the avalanche of injures Ontario lost 4 games to Highland, Harding, NU and BV by a total of 20 points. For you that's an average of 5 ppg , they led in the 4th quarter in all 4 games. The program has lost so often for so many years at all levels, they didn't know how to win close games. IMO, if the injures would have been minimal, they could have "competed" with all MOAC teams expect for Clear Fork and Pleasant. "No talent in the system"?? Still a lot of young kids open enrolling from Mansfield. "No tlent in the system"?? ? You need to do some research before speaking of what you do not know. You've got a PM. 12 starters lost to injury? You high? Name 7 of those 12 then bc ik for damn sure there were not 12! Starters, not individuals. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 6:41:25 GMT -5
12 starters lost to injury? You high? Name 7 of those 12 then bc ik for damn sure there were not 12! My guess would be he meant to say players that held 12 starting positions were lost since many kids can go both ways. Truthfully it may have been 6 kids hurt, which is not uncommon for a football team. |
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Post by ohs2017 on Nov 10, 2017 10:02:09 GMT -5
12 starters lost to injury? You high? Name 7 of those 12 then bc ik for damn sure there were not 12! My guess would be he meant to say players that held 12 starting positions were lost since many kids can go both ways. Truthfully it may have been 6 kids hurt, which is not uncommon for a football team. Treyvian Jordan played basketball last year with a torn ACL most likely along w cartilage damage and a torn meniscus. He had knee pain since middle school so he was used to it. We probably had 6 injuries last year and went 4-6 in a much better NOL. Goin 0-7 in the MOAC is inexcusable idc how many injuries you have |
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Post by galiontiger on Nov 10, 2017 15:49:33 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2017 20:18:12 GMT -5
12 starters lost to injury? You high? Name 7 of those 12 then bc ik for damn sure there were not 12! My guess would be he meant to say players that held 12 starting positions were lost since many kids can go both ways. Truthfully it may have been 6 kids hurt, which is not uncommon for a football team. It was't six, but if it was 6 players who start on both offense and defense that would make them 6 of the best players on the team. The same as 12 starters. How good would Lex have been last year if their six best players were injured? |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 10, 2017 20:24:26 GMT -5
My guess would be he meant to say players that held 12 starting positions were lost since many kids can go both ways. Truthfully it may have been 6 kids hurt, which is not uncommon for a football team. Treyvian Jordan played basketball last year with a torn ACL most likely along w cartilage damage and a torn meniscus. He had knee pain since middle school so he was used to it. We probably had 6 injuries last year and went 4-6 in a much better NOL. Goin 0-7 in the MOAC is inexcusable idc how many injuries you have What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Too bad Trey couldn't find it in himself to play football when he was a Freshman and Sophomore. It wasn't due to injuries. Quan told me that he and Trey were going to concentrate on basketball. This year Ontario's first 4 losses against Highland, Harding, NU and BV were by a total of 20 points. In all 4 games they had leads in the 4th quarter. They did not know how to win games. A successful football team MUST have a bunch of winners who refuse to lose. You want to talk football injuries? You came to the right place. In ONE season....broke an index finger which caused pain on most tackles I made. A severely broken nose that knocked me out cold. One of 4 times I've had head injuries that left me unconscious. The bone at the bridge of the nose and the cartilage between the nostrils were completely broken from the skull and the nose bone was shoved under my eye, requiring surgery to rebuild. A complete break to my Tibia ended the season. . You want to talk car wreck injuries? I should be dead. |
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Post by ohs2017 on Nov 10, 2017 21:29:57 GMT -5
Treyvian Jordan played basketball last year with a torn ACL most likely along w cartilage damage and a torn meniscus. He had knee pain since middle school so he was used to it. We probably had 6 injuries last year and went 4-6 in a much better NOL. Goin 0-7 in the MOAC is inexcusable idc how many injuries you have What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Too bad Trey couldn't find it in himself to play football when he was a Freshman and Sophomore. It wasn't due to injuries. Quan told me that he and Trey were going to concentrate on basketball. This year Ontario's first 4 losses against Highland, Harding, NU and BV were by a total of 20 points. In all 4 games they had leads in the 4th quarter. They did not know how to win games. A successful football team MUST have a bunch of winners who refuse to lose. You want to talk football injuries? You came to the right place. In ONE season....broke an index finger which caused pain on most tackles I made. A severely broken nose that knocked me out cold. One of 4 times I've had head injuries that left me unconscious. The bone at the bridge of the nose and the cartilage between the nostrils were completely broken from the skull and the nose bone was shoved under my eye, requiring surgery to rebuild. A complete break to my Tibia ended the season. . You want to talk car wreck injuries? I should be dead. That’s crazy! I’m just saying that even if no one wouldnt have gotten hurt they would have went 4-6 at best. No talent. And a subpar coach who needs to go into public speaking rather than football! Never made adjustments just tried to instill what worked w good talent at galion! |
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Post by galion on Nov 11, 2017 9:15:23 GMT -5
My guess would be he meant to say players that held 12 starting positions were lost since many kids can go both ways. Truthfully it may have been 6 kids hurt, which is not uncommon for a football team. Treyvian Jordan played basketball last year with a torn ACL most likely along w cartilage damage and a torn meniscus. He had knee pain since middle school so he was used to it. We probably had 6 injuries last year and went 4-6 in a much better NOL. Goin 0-7 in the MOAC is inexcusable idc how many injuries you have Did you develop a drug habit in college? Let's start with you didn't go 4-6 last year in the NOL you went 2-4. Your other 2 victories came at the expense of D6 powerhouses Cardington and Carey(neither of whom made the D6 playoffs). And believe me when I tell you that there were no teams in the MOAC this season, not even Galion, nearly as terrible as Willard and TC were last season. In fact, other than Ontario no team in the MOAC this season finished with a record worse that 4-6. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 11, 2017 12:27:52 GMT -5
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Too bad Trey couldn't find it in himself to play football when he was a Freshman and Sophomore. It wasn't due to injuries. Quan told me that he and Trey were going to concentrate on basketball. This year Ontario's first 4 losses against Highland, Harding, NU and BV were by a total of 20 points. In all 4 games they had leads in the 4th quarter. They did not know how to win games. A successful football team MUST have a bunch of winners who refuse to lose. You want to talk football injuries? You came to the right place. In ONE season....broke an index finger which caused pain on most tackles I made. A severely broken nose that knocked me out cold. One of 4 times I've had head injuries that left me unconscious. The bone at the bridge of the nose and the cartilage between the nostrils were completely broken from the skull and the nose bone was shoved under my eye, requiring surgery to rebuild. A complete break to my Tibia ended the season. . You want to talk car wreck injuries? I should be dead. That’s crazy! I’m just saying that even if no one wouldnt have gotten hurt they would have went 4-6 at best. No talent. And a subpar coach who needs to go into public speaking rather than football! Never made adjustments just tried to instill what worked w good talent at galion! You're not paying attention. Ontario was in every game this year through week 6 when the avalanche of injuries befell them. Winning 2 and losing 4 by a total of 20 points with leads in the 4th quarter in the 4 close losses. This team DID NOT KNOW HOW TO WIN. A winning attitude comes from inside the individual. They could have won their first 6 games of the season if they wanted it bad enough. "if no one wouldn't have gotten hurt" AND they had an undeniable will to win, they could have competed with and possibly won every game except Clear Fork and Pleasant. For the talent they had the offense used was perfect. Cam Todd, a Soph QB who's a very good passer and a good option runner. IMO, overall the best QB at Ontario for decades. Mitch Pittman, a tough Junior TB whose Stinger early in the season made it impossible for him to carry the ball so he had to become a lineman. A big, strong, very fast WR in Ethan Pensante, the closest thing to Cam Mack since he graduated. As good as any receiver in the league when Todd was healthy and got him the ball. Nick Arnold, 1st Team All-League LB was also a hard nosed TE with good hands, as good as any in recent memory. Regardless of what your O-line is like, no offense can cover bad play there. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 13:07:31 GMT -5
My guess would be he meant to say players that held 12 starting positions were lost since many kids can go both ways. Truthfully it may have been 6 kids hurt, which is not uncommon for a football team. Treyvian Jordan played basketball last year with a torn ACL most likely along w cartilage damage and a torn meniscus. He had knee pain since middle school so he was used to it. We probably had 6 injuries last year and went 4-6 in a much better NOL. Goin 0-7 in the MOAC is inexcusable idc how many injuries you have I wasn't saying any one is soft or tough I was only saying that when someone says that a team is missing 12 starters to injuries it doesn't have to mean 12 players. With many teams having kids playing both ways it could be a number given by someone spinning the situation to give a more dramatic appearance. I understand if you are missing 8-10 solid players who can go both ways will hurt, but if the final end result is a 2-8 season, you were bad to begin with and having injured players didn't change that. IMO |
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