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Post by ptangzoot on Feb 1, 2019 14:49:52 GMT -5
I talked to someone in admin. They are very excited. I was told he is the first hire with previous head coaching experience since Kurtzman. This statement does not make me feel all that well...apparently no one on the Admin was around when Kurtzman was head coach.
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Post by ptangzoot on Feb 1, 2019 14:53:42 GMT -5
I don't pay a lot of attention to Fireland Conference action, generally speaking. So I just dug up this info on Mapleton. Mahaney was the Mapleton head coach from 2013-2018, 6 seasons. We should all be able to see that he took Mapleton from a fledgling program to a pretty significant one considering where they started. During the 2013-2018 seasons, St. Paul had its way with the Firelands, going 42-0 in conference play with an average margin victory of 37.4. However, 4 of St. Paul's 8 closest victories were at the hands of Mapleton, who *only* lost by an average of 24.2 points during that time, or basically a 2 TD closer margin per game, PAT pending. This makes Mapleton the most "successful" team against St. Paul in a given season during that six year stretch. They also had the 2nd best conference record over that six year stretch at 24-18. The Firelands isn't great by any means, but someone has to come in 2nd behind St. Paul each year. I dig it. Hopefully this all translates to Shelby. Hopefully the 63-33 loss to Plymouth last year does not translate to Shelby....that was the first thing I noticed when I started looking...
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 1, 2019 15:14:33 GMT -5
I'll call that anomaly the "polar vortex."
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 1, 2019 15:48:54 GMT -5
I talked to someone in admin. They are very excited. I was told he is the first hire with previous head coaching experience since Kurtzman. This statement does not make me feel all that well...apparently no one on the Admin was around when Kurtzman was head coach. They were aware of Kurtzman’s record when they pointed out that fun fact. I think they were just hopeful that the first year or two wouldn’t require a steep learning curve.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 1, 2019 16:33:45 GMT -5
Kurtzman is an anecdote, likely not the actual pattern of results from head coach hiring with previous experience.
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Post by hungryhounds4ever on Feb 2, 2019 0:35:37 GMT -5
kurtzman was A joke, I still remember when he cried in front of us telling us he had been fired, that was before Steve Hale came...I will never forget that
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Post by sportsfan15 on Feb 2, 2019 0:55:14 GMT -5
I will say this about Mahaney, I don't know him personally, but what he has done at Mapelton is nothing short of amazing. He took a program that had very little success and made them into a solid football team. He has been there 6 years, made the playoffs 3 of those years. Has been able to adapt is offense first as a heavy run offense, and later into a throwing team. I'm sure he will be missed greatly by the Mapelton community. Mahaney is also the son-inlaw to Lee Owens, Head football coach at Ashland University . Clearly he did a great job at mapleton... however, I do know him and he is a standup guy! A great hire imo... if he can turn a small school program around just think what he could potentially do at a school with the type of size and athletes Shelby brings to the table
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Post by dude on Feb 2, 2019 10:56:40 GMT -5
Heard his name mentioned as an applicant for the Lexington job as well. He must have dreams of being at a bigger school than Mapleton.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Feb 2, 2019 19:00:08 GMT -5
Galion looked at him when their job was open in 2016. They hired Matt Dick instead because he was younger and less expensive. Good luck to him. Hope it works out well for him.
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Post by 1belowthepressbox on Feb 3, 2019 12:55:35 GMT -5
Look beyond that he coached in the FC. Shelby hired themselves a good one. Also, with his ties to AU, Shelby kids are in a good situation if looking to play at the next level. Personally, I thought he was as good of a coach as Livengood.Just didn't have the horses to be as successful in the win column. If anyone knows Mapleton, they will tell you that he got more out of those teams than anyone else could.
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Post by ScottT on Feb 4, 2019 8:30:27 GMT -5
He was under very serious consideration at Norwalk before Todd Fox got the job.
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Post by shsfan on May 19, 2019 20:42:39 GMT -5
I know Dan. He’s a great guy and knows sports. Did he coach them in junior high? I ask because giving credit to a guy for a whole class during their high school career after having 1/4 of them in flag and 1/2 of them in peewee football might be a stretch. Dan Coached 8 of the boys in Basketball in grade school and some in Baseball. He may have help with Football some but a number of the better players in this group didnt even play 6th grade football. Dan was not there JR High Football coach. Dave Bishop was their Coach in 7th and 8th.
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Post by shsfan on May 19, 2019 20:47:15 GMT -5
Dan Parrigan and last years seinor class is what made Shelby football respectable the last couple years, any decent local coach could have won with that talented group. Give credit where it is do Parrigan (made that group talented) he worked that class at least 3-4 years when they were just little guys like 3rd thru 6th grade. That group went into the program already way more skilled than any other class because of Parrigan’s coaching. I said this before the program was mediocre prior to last years seniors and now back to the mediocracy since they are gone. They would not have had 5 wins this year had they played a schedule more like Bellevue did. Willard and Madison in preseason who doesn’t win those. Will did an ok job with last years class the offense he ran fit those kids. But if he have made adjustments against Steubenville could they have won that game? We will never know since he didn't, but I believe it was possible. They win that game they are most likely state champions. Dan is a good coach but he coached these 8 of these boys in Basketball and Baseball and they fizzled out in both of those sports in HS.
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Post by fanofthegame on May 19, 2019 21:39:36 GMT -5
Dan Parrigan and last years seinor class is what made Shelby football respectable the last couple years, any decent local coach could have won with that talented group. Give credit where it is do Parrigan (made that group talented) he worked that class at least 3-4 years when they were just little guys like 3rd thru 6th grade. That group went into the program already way more skilled than any other class because of Parrigan’s coaching. I said this before the program was mediocre prior to last years seniors and now back to the mediocracy since they are gone. They would not have had 5 wins this year had they played a schedule more like Bellevue did. Willard and Madison in preseason who doesn’t win those. Will did an ok job with last years class the offense he ran fit those kids. But if he have made adjustments against Steubenville could they have won that game? We will never know since he didn't, but I believe it was possible. They win that game they are most likely state champions. Dan is a good coach but he coached these 8 of these boys in Basketball and Baseball and they fizzled out in both of those sports in HS. To be fair their success in football may have influenced their effort in basketball and baseball. They had success in baseball younger, but nobody but family shows up to those games.
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Post by silverbull on Jun 21, 2019 21:32:24 GMT -5
Dan Parrigan and last years seinor class is what made Shelby football respectable the last couple years, any decent local coach could have won with that talented group. Give credit where it is do Parrigan (made that group talented) he worked that class at least 3-4 years when they were just little guys like 3rd thru 6th grade. That group went into the program already way more skilled than any other class because of Parrigan’s coaching. I said this before the program was mediocre prior to last years seniors and now back to the mediocracy since they are gone. They would not have had 5 wins this year had they played a schedule more like Bellevue did. Willard and Madison in preseason who doesn’t win those. Will did an ok job with last years class the offense he ran fit those kids. But if he have made adjustments against Steubenville could they have won that game? We will never know since he didn't, but I believe it was possible. They win that game they are most likely state champions. Dan Parrigan??? Funniest post ever. What a joke?
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