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Post by Hummingbird on Jul 25, 2019 9:37:32 GMT -5
THoughts about changing the transfer rule back to one year? Tougher standards?
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Post by crimsonblooded on Jul 25, 2019 9:50:35 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, your pretty much giving up the year now. Not gonna change anything. But go ahead and change it. People will move or what ever. But if your on the fence going into your freshman year, then go ahead and transfer. You have a transfer back to school district of residence without penalty. Gives you more options. Maybe let people make their own decisions. Some school districts need to be held accountable!
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Post by redskinfan04 on Jul 25, 2019 10:16:32 GMT -5
I could get behind a return to a one year sit out standard. What I really want to see is separate public/private playoffs. Competitive balance has helped but it’s not enough imo.
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Post by goblue on Jul 25, 2019 10:46:14 GMT -5
It's one thing to transfer to make super teams. It's another thing to transfer out of a toxic situation. Like what's happening in Willard. I feel bad for those boys. That administration has made poor choices in coaches since they hired Strance. And kept making steps backwards. Willard has had 5 boys transfer this year and are probably going to have to start freshmen. And honestly they will get hurt lose interest and end up not playing. If the school doesn't cancel the varsity season . The powers to be should be ashamed of themselves. Play a JV schedule and let them develop. Instead of throwing them to the wolves.
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Post by ScottT on Jul 25, 2019 17:55:41 GMT -5
I could get behind a return to a one year sit out standard. What I really want to see is separate public/private playoffs. Competitive balance has helped but it’s not enough imo. The problem with separate playoffs is the private and parochial schools could leave the OHSAA and former their own athletic association, which would mean they wouldn't be bound by OHSAA rules. You think the problem is bad now, just remember, it could get a lot worse... |
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Post by buckeyekid on Jul 28, 2019 16:06:26 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, how is the Willard kid to Norwalk working out so far?
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Post by crimson5 on Jul 28, 2019 18:19:33 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, how is the Willard kid to Norwalk working out so far? Heard yesterday, 3rd hand via my daughter, that the transfer's mother has got involved because the athlete was not entirely sure it was a good decision (aka mom and dad not on the same page). Don't think the transfer is a done deal yet. |
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Post by sportsvideo on Jul 28, 2019 19:42:33 GMT -5
I could get behind a return to a one year sit out standard. What I really want to see is separate public/private playoffs. Competitive balance has helped but it’s not enough imo. public schools are getting just as bad with the open enrollment game.. |
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Post by Green Falcon on Jul 28, 2019 21:41:19 GMT -5
Thought provoking questions here
Why have transfer rules at all?
What does it matter where the student athlete lives vs where they go to school?
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Post by curmudgeon on Jul 28, 2019 23:00:52 GMT -5
Thought provoking questions here Why have transfer rules at all? What does it matter where the student athlete lives vs where they go to school? I agree. Why punish someone for switching schools? Does it really matter that much? If I could better my children's education, chance of paying for college with athletics or for any reason I thought fit for that matter, I would move them. It amazes me how a few parents (we saw this here) can raise a fuss at a board meeting to try to oust a good coach. No doubt these are the same people who, if they got their way, would look to force other people's kids to stay and play with theirs for a coach they approve of. But back on the real topic, in my opinion, If parents are really that desperate to go through that amount of trouble and expense to have their child play for a certain coach or team, who should feel authorized to stand in their way? Maybe the competitive balance should be left to the schools in what they do to attract the right coaches/teachers/support their programs/etc. |
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Post by dude on Jul 29, 2019 5:05:56 GMT -5
I could get behind a return to a one year sit out standard. What I really want to see is separate public/private playoffs. Competitive balance has helped but it’s not enough imo. The problem with separate playoffs is the private and parochial schools could leave the OHSAA and former their own athletic association, which would mean they wouldn't be bound by OHSAA rules. You think the problem is bad now, just remember, it could get a lot worse... If you think about the amount of ticket sales support and the fact that some do not even have their own field, I see them starting their own association as a crash and burn. With the limited amount of schools you would have Tiffin Calvert playing TCC. I think the privates would regret making any move in that direction. |
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Post by Hummingbird on Jul 29, 2019 7:06:20 GMT -5
Thought provoking questions here Why have transfer rules at all? What does it matter where the student athlete lives vs where they go to school? I agree. Why punish someone for switching schools? Does it really matter that much? If I could better my children's education, chance of paying for college with athletics or for any reason I thought fit for that matter, I would move them. It amazes me how a few parents (we saw this here) can raise a fuss at a board meeting to try to oust a good coach. No doubt these are the same people who, if they got their way, would look to force other people's kids to stay and play with theirs for a coach they approve of. But back on the real topic, in my opinion, If parents are really that desperate to go through that amount of trouble and expense to have their child play for a certain coach or team, who should feel authorized to stand in their way? Maybe the competitive balance should be left to the schools in what they do to attract the right coaches/teachers/support their programs/etc. If a kid is good and has the measurables, doesn't matter where they go. Another reason society is SO messed up anymore. |
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Post by redskinfan04 on Jul 29, 2019 9:57:13 GMT -5
I agree. Why punish someone for switching schools? Does it really matter that much? If I could better my children's education, chance of paying for college with athletics or for any reason I thought fit for that matter, I would move them. It amazes me how a few parents (we saw this here) can raise a fuss at a board meeting to try to oust a good coach. No doubt these are the same people who, if they got their way, would look to force other people's kids to stay and play with theirs for a coach they approve of. But back on the real topic, in my opinion, If parents are really that desperate to go through that amount of trouble and expense to have their child play for a certain coach or team, who should feel authorized to stand in their way? Maybe the competitive balance should be left to the schools in what they do to attract the right coaches/teachers/support their programs/etc. If a kid is good and has the measurables, doesn't matter where they go. Another reason society is SO messed up anymore. I don’t buy the “if your good enough they’ll find you” theory. It may ring true for a true D1 power 5 type athlete but for the other 99% of kids it’s not true. The better the team you’re on and the better the talent around you and the better the competition you face. The more eye’s that will be looking at you and the more eyes that see you the better the chances of getting a ride at any level. I get why parents shuffle schools but it’s really bad for the game. It creates super teams and that’s just bad. |
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Post by curmudgeon on Jul 29, 2019 12:14:33 GMT -5
Society is only messed up when the have nots make the haves compete with their hands tied behind their back. It doesn't matter where they choose to live, play etc.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 4, 2019 20:06:54 GMT -5
I could get behind a return to a one year sit out standard. What I really want to see is separate public/private playoffs. Competitive balance has helped but it’s not enough imo. The problem with separate playoffs is the private and parochial schools could leave the OHSAA and former their own athletic association, which would mean they wouldn't be bound by OHSAA rules. You think the problem is bad now, just remember, it could get a lot worse... Yep, if privates were made to have their own division, they would just leave the OHSAA and not be encombered by their rules. They would recruit like colleges and there is nothing anyone could do about it. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 4, 2019 20:08:00 GMT -5
I agree. Why punish someone for switching schools? Does it really matter that much? If I could better my children's education, chance of paying for college with athletics or for any reason I thought fit for that matter, I would move them. It amazes me how a few parents (we saw this here) can raise a fuss at a board meeting to try to oust a good coach. No doubt these are the same people who, if they got their way, would look to force other people's kids to stay and play with theirs for a coach they approve of. But back on the real topic, in my opinion, If parents are really that desperate to go through that amount of trouble and expense to have their child play for a certain coach or team, who should feel authorized to stand in their way? Maybe the competitive balance should be left to the schools in what they do to attract the right coaches/teachers/support their programs/etc. If a kid is good and has the measurables, doesn't matter where they go. Another reason society is SO messed up anymore. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 4, 2019 20:15:12 GMT -5
TRUTH!
Little Ontario on an average team had a 6-7 240 TE. An Ohio State Alum told an Ohio State coach about him. An assistant came up to see the kid, timed him in a 40, measured the length of his arms and offered him on the spot. Two years and 45 pounds later he was starting at left tackle.
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Post by curmudgeon on Aug 4, 2019 22:46:22 GMT -5
TRUTH! Little Ontario on an average team had a 6-7 240 TE. An Ohio State Alum told an Ohio State coach about him. An assistant came up to see the kid, timed him in a 40, measured the length of his arms and offered him on the spot. Two years and 45 pounds later he was starting at left tackle. A true Cinderella story in every sense. And there are good reasons they call em Cinderella stories. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 4, 2019 22:56:07 GMT -5
Cinderella?? More like an NFL story.
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Post by curmudgeon on Aug 4, 2019 23:16:55 GMT -5
Wonderfull: All those who believe a fairy godmother will whisper in a college scout's ear on their behalf, or be found toiling away on a crappy DV team with dismal competition by any means is free to stay put. But the handful of stories that exist like that does not constitute justification for punishing a student for trying to better their situation no matter why they decide to switch schools. Give the whiners a participation trophy if it shuts them up, but the sportswriters are going to type more about the big game between two stacked schools. Colleges are going to continue catering to the 4.0 student from a prep school. No amount of appeasing the lazy schools and programs by trying to force families to stay where they are will work. Nor should it.
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Post by richrod on Aug 5, 2019 13:53:12 GMT -5
Wonderfull: All those who believe a fairy godmother will whisper in a college scout's ear on their behalf, or be found toiling away on a crappy DV team with dismal competition by any means is free to stay put. But the handful of stories that exist like that does not constitute justification for punishing a student for trying to better their situation no matter why they decide to switch schools. Give the whiners a participation trophy if it shuts them up, but the sportswriters are going to type more about the big game between two stacked schools. Colleges are going to continue catering to the 4.0 student from a prep school. No amount of appeasing the lazy schools and programs by trying to force families to stay where they are will work. Nor should it. a little triggered here i see |
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