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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 7, 2019 9:11:18 GMT -5
Big Walnut is a football tradition school? Come on...their last winning season was 2014 I heard from a reliable source that Big Walnut wanted to drop this game and had to be reassured that we weren’t the same team that made the deep playoff run. |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Sept 7, 2019 11:56:56 GMT -5
Big Walnut has a league schedule of D1 and D2 schools. Their non-league play involves a D5 school (to their credit, it's Johnstown-Monroe, they aren't a slouch by any means), a D4 school (Shelby), and a D3 school (Buckeye Valley).
Knowing Big Walnut's recent seasons, I wouldn't be shocked to know they deliberately weakened their schedule as much as feasible.
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 13:33:11 GMT -5
Big Walnut is a football tradition school? Come on...their last winning season was 2014 How many seasons did Shelby go without a winning season and I consider them to have football tradition. You may also not know that BW plays 5 of their conference games against D1 schools. |
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 14:14:02 GMT -5
Big Walnut is a football tradition school? Come on...their last winning season was 2014 I heard from a reliable source that Big Walnut wanted to drop this game and had to be reassured that we weren’t the same team that made the deep playoff run. This is the first year for this game. Difficult to drop something that you never played before. |
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 14:20:28 GMT -5
Big Walnut has a league schedule of D1 and D2 schools. Their non-league play involves a D5 school (to their credit, it's Johnstown-Monroe, they aren't a slouch by any means), a D4 school (Shelby), and a D3 school (Buckeye Valley). Knowing Big Walnut's recent seasons, I wouldn't be shocked to know they deliberately weakened their schedule as much as feasible. Johnstown Monroe and Buckeye Valley are both short trips so they both make good sense for them. |
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 7, 2019 14:36:20 GMT -5
I heard from a reliable source that Big Walnut wanted to drop this game and had to be reassured that we weren’t the same team that made the deep playoff run. This is the first year for this game. Difficult to drop something that you never played before. After making this claim I had my statement verified by reliable source number two. I’m gonna stand by it. For the record, it’s not a slight on them. I’d guess more than a few teams might think about running from the playoff Shelby team. |
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Post by hungryhounds4ever on Sept 7, 2019 14:41:37 GMT -5
This is the first year for this game. Difficult to drop something that you never played before. After making this claim I had my statement verified by reliable source number two. I’m gonna stand by it. For the record, it’s not a slight on them. I’d guess more than a few teams might think about running from the playoff Shelby team. That's humorous because it's not like you cant look up records, and playoff seating from last year...🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 14:48:12 GMT -5
This is the first year for this game. Difficult to drop something that you never played before. After making this claim I had my statement verified by reliable source number two. I’m gonna stand by it. For the record, it’s not a slight on them. I’d guess more than a few teams might think about running from the playoff Shelby team. No debate that the Shelby sources make this claim. But when this game was scheduled Shelby WAS a dominate team going 13-1 so the smaller size did not matter to them. If they did try to get out I predict it would be because Shelby went 5-5 last year and they wanted a better D4 game with a winning record. So in the end it may all work out. But do not kid yourself in thinking that BW fears this years Shelby team. |
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Post by buckeye33 on Sept 7, 2019 14:54:04 GMT -5
Big Walnut is a football tradition school? Come on...their last winning season was 2014 How many seasons did Shelby go without a winning season and I consider them to have football tradition. You may also not know that BW plays 5 of their conference games against D1 schools. I know who Big Walnut plays. This is one of the 50/50 games I had for Shelby this year. I’m only saying I don’t know what ‘tradition’ has to do with who wins the game. I’m sure neither teams’ players have any interest in what the other school did 10-50 years ago. |
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Post by A no.1 on Sept 7, 2019 14:56:21 GMT -5
Doesn't seem that long ago that Big Walnut was routinely booting former NOL schools from the playoffs. I remember they (Big Walnut fans) used to brag about it on JJHuddle.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 7, 2019 15:10:20 GMT -5
Any attempt to determine why Big Walnut wanted to back out is speculation. Fact is two people who KNOW told me they wanted to.
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Post by richrod on Sept 7, 2019 15:16:24 GMT -5
Shelby is solid right now, They have some nice players and I think they might just knock off Big Walnut this week, heck they owe em
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Post by buckeye33 on Sept 7, 2019 15:58:21 GMT -5
Why does Shelby owe them?
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 16:28:02 GMT -5
How many seasons did Shelby go without a winning season and I consider them to have football tradition. You may also not know that BW plays 5 of their conference games against D1 schools. I know who Big Walnut plays. This is one of the 50/50 games I had for Shelby this year. I’m only saying I don’t know what ‘tradition’ has to do with who wins the game. I’m sure neither teams’ players have any interest in what the other school did 10-50 years ago. Nobody cares what a school did 10-50 years ago unless you were on those teams. My point is there are schools that have history of regular success in football, even if they do have some down years, that I would consider football schools based on their tradition if regular success. So far the whippets have not played them. That's all. |
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 16:30:06 GMT -5
Any attempt to determine why Big Walnut wanted to back out is speculation. Fact is two people who KNOW told me they wanted to. Unless your college roommates son is part of the staff. Then you possibly could know the WHY. |
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 16:30:51 GMT -5
Shelby is solid right now, They have some nice players and I think they might just knock off Big Walnut this week, heck they owe em Definitely possible. |
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 7, 2019 16:32:40 GMT -5
Why does Shelby owe them? 2007 D3 Region 10 Semifinal: Big Walnut 35 Shelby 8 |
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Post by buckeye33 on Sept 7, 2019 16:48:05 GMT -5
Lol, the current players were 4-6 years old...I doubt they have any idea nor do they care what happened in 2007
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 7, 2019 17:17:27 GMT -5
Any attempt to determine why Big Walnut wanted to back out is speculation. Fact is two people who KNOW told me they wanted to. Unless your college roommates son is part of the staff. Then you possibly could know the WHY. Let’s be clear. You are saying your college roommate has a son on the team? You are also saying that a kid on the team currently is in the know about the goings on in administration regarding discussions about scheduling? |
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Post by dude on Sept 7, 2019 23:15:07 GMT -5
Unless your college roommates son is part of the staff. Then you possibly could know the WHY. Let’s be clear. You are saying your college roommate has a son on the team? You are also saying that a kid on the team currently is in the know about the goings on in administration regarding discussions about scheduling? Let’s be clear, I said Staff. Staff. Staff. You struggle to read. |
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 8, 2019 6:49:12 GMT -5
Let’s be clear. You are saying your college roommate has a son on the team? You are also saying that a kid on the team currently is in the know about the goings on in administration regarding discussions about scheduling? Let’s be clear, I said Staff. Staff. Staff. You struggle to read. No reason to get snippy. I admit, I missed the staff part. Honest mistake. There seems to be a difference of opinion between my sources and your source. I think this game will be the biggest challenge Shelby has faced so far. I don’t really have an opinion about whether BW is a perineal football powerhouse. I don’t follow them. I’ve watched them play one game (the playoff game against Shelby 10 ish years ago). I was just reporting what I’d been told. |
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Post by dude on Sept 8, 2019 7:52:43 GMT -5
Let’s be clear, I said Staff. Staff. Staff. You struggle to read. No reason to get snippy. I admit, I missed the staff part. Honest mistake. There seems to be a difference of opinion between my sources and your source. I think this game will be the biggest challenge Shelby has faced so far. I don’t really have an opinion about whether BW is a perineal football powerhouse. I don’t follow them. I’ve watched them play one game (the playoff game against Shelby 10 ish years ago). I was just reporting what I’d been told. Wasn't being snippy I just figured I needed to repeat my self so you got it right. The difference may be in what you are looking for. Without a doubt the best challenge. There is a difference between saying a school is perennial powerhouse and having football tradition. I feel Shelby has a football tradition but would never say they are a perennial powerhouse. For BW football means something to their community, it is supported and they have had some success, including a state champ. Mostly unlike Shelby's first 2 opponents. The game was scheduled when Shelby was in their recent playoff runs. They had talks of dropping them when they went 5-5 last season in fear they could fall back to their 2012 2013 and 2014 level. |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Sept 9, 2019 17:01:49 GMT -5
Big Walnut has a league schedule of D1 and D2 schools. Their non-league play involves a D5 school (to their credit, it's Johnstown-Monroe, they aren't a slouch by any means), a D4 school (Shelby), and a D3 school (Buckeye Valley). Knowing Big Walnut's recent seasons, I wouldn't be shocked to know they deliberately weakened their schedule as much as feasible. Johnstown Monroe and Buckeye Valley are both short trips so they both make good sense for them. No disputing that. To my point though, Big Walnut was playing all D2 schools in their non-league play as recently as 2016. Going back to 2007, there were scheduling D1 schools for most of their non-league play. Those short trips for BW are appealing but I bet the size of the schools are a factor as well, since BW hasn't had a winning season since 2014. |
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Post by dude on Sept 9, 2019 19:42:50 GMT -5
Most know that the enrollment of BW has exploded in the last few years and it is easy to see that their athletics has not kept up with the division they have moved into. IN 2007 they were similar to Shelby's enrollment for Football. Now they have almost 100 more boys in each class. You also need to look at their conf opponents and how they have changed. Years ago the OCC made divisions by location so BWs conference travels were less. Now they may have doubled so the shorter non conf travels are wanted.
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