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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 21, 2019 19:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by runawaytrain on Oct 21, 2019 20:56:00 GMT -5
Saw on another forum that there was a somewhat heated public meeting before the 3-2 vote.
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Post by smitty1974 on Oct 21, 2019 21:13:37 GMT -5
why would riverdale athletic dept announce this instead of ridgedale athletic dept?
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Post by Green Falcon on Oct 21, 2019 22:17:07 GMT -5
Lucky for Ridgedale that Lehman Catholic and Riverside are leaving the NWCC in 2021 which would have been the hardest drives. This will suit the school's competition level more appropriately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 9:23:43 GMT -5
Lucky for Ridgedale that Lehman Catholic and Riverside are leaving the NWCC in 2021 which would have been the hardest drives. This will suit the school's competition level more appropriately. The reason there is room for Ridgedale is because those schools are leaving. Luck has literally nothing to do with it
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Post by jmorgret07 on Oct 22, 2019 9:31:19 GMT -5
why would riverdale athletic dept announce this instead of ridgedale athletic dept? If you're not first, you're last.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 22, 2019 13:22:41 GMT -5
Riverdale reports Ridgedale joining Ridgemont due to Riverside departure. Rivermont and Ridgeside unavailable for comment.
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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 23, 2019 14:57:00 GMT -5
Willard is on line one and tripping over themselves to get their letter of interest to the N10.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 23, 2019 15:25:47 GMT -5
Willard is on line one and tripping over themselves to get their letter of interest to the N10. Is Willard thinking 8-man or independent football schedule? If not, all they're going to get is a busy signal and a letter returned to sender.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 23, 2019 15:27:54 GMT -5
Though would the N10 be interested. Ridgedale going independent for football dropped them to the perfect 8 for football, and now they'll be at 8 for the other sports too.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 23, 2019 15:34:59 GMT -5
Willard is on line one and tripping over themselves to get their letter of interest to the N10. I'm not sure. Flashes seem to be fine overall with the exception of Football, and having said this, 2 Firelands Conference teams took them to the shed this year.
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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 23, 2019 15:43:22 GMT -5
Willard is interested and is inquiring. Will N10 have interest? At 8 FB schools, I say no but if there were one of their schools looking elsewhere or moving down to 8-man, that may change the conversation.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 23, 2019 15:49:44 GMT -5
Willard is interested and is inquiring. Will N10 have interest? At 8 FB schools, I say no but if there were one of their schools looking elsewhere or moving down to 8-man, that may change the conversation. Probably true, but think of this. Crestline is now willing to travel to the BVC for two years. Are they ready to jump back in the N10 if there were an opening? They are a much better fit for the N10 schools travel wise.
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Post by oldno72 on Oct 23, 2019 18:32:44 GMT -5
Size wise, Willard is smaller tha Upper, but comparable with Bucyrus and Wynford. Thus, they would be a fit size wise. However, if Colonel Crawford could not stomach Galion, then they will never go for Willard, who would make it two teams that Coach Sheldon would struggle with in trying to win a conference title. Plus, Bucyrus, who has not beaten Willard since the earth cooled in Basketball, and Buckeye Central, who is a neighbor and much smaller school may not be so eager. I would be very surprised if it were to happen.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 23, 2019 18:49:23 GMT -5
Why would the N10 want to add anyone? 8 is the ideal number for conferences and that puts the N10 there. In fact I wondered if theyβd change their name to Northern 8 but I think I saw an 8 man conference going with that name? Regardless Willard may have interest but I would guess if the N10 did want to expand (which I donβt think they do), they would go for other schools before Willard. I think too many of the schools are not happy with Willard for backing out of the NCC when there was talk of expansion before the N10 began.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 23, 2019 19:29:02 GMT -5
When the Big Three orchestrated the demise of the NCC and costructed the N-10, they obviously thought 10 was the "perfect number".
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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 23, 2019 19:50:07 GMT -5
Some good points why is wouldn't happen. For the sake of the SBC Bay Division, let's hope that's the case. Not sure what the future of the SBC would look like if Danbury, SMCC go to 8-man and Willard jumps to N10 (or elsewhere-MOAC?).
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 23, 2019 21:09:59 GMT -5
When the Big Three orchestrated the demise of the NCC and costructed the N-10, they obviously thought 10 was the "perfect number". The way I understood it was it was originally to be the Northern 8 without Bucyrus but Bucyrus wanted in it badly enough that they convinced the rest of the schools to add Ridgedale to make it an even number at 10.
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Post by downtown_4_3 on Oct 25, 2019 2:49:23 GMT -5
I believe the reality is the N10 will stay at eight. It's the ideal conference number. Sorry Willard, no room in the inn for you.
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Post by bigox on Oct 25, 2019 5:13:12 GMT -5
The only way that there would be a move back to ten would be if two schools that fit would make serious inquiries. Both Willard and Crestline have contacted the N10 this week. Neither of which really fit. Crestline walked away once and that probably wont get them a second look. Willard would be a good fit in most all sports. Hell 5 of the 9 teams are playing them in boys basketball this season. But like I said "fit" is important and I dont know if all the schools like that fit. What I have been told is 8 and a league name change are on the way after this season. I vote the Crawford Cronie League....ππ
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Post by fbfan on Oct 25, 2019 11:51:24 GMT -5
Ten is a terrible number for a football league, and presents some problems in the other sports also. Forced crossover games between larger and smaller schools doesn't work, the old NCC proved that. The SBC has tried to "encourage" crossover games but not require them. How's that going? Even if two schools that "fit" presented themselves, the current N10, or 8 or whatever you want to call them, will not go to ten. Any additions will be the result of their number going to seven or less for some reason.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 25, 2019 19:01:10 GMT -5
The only way that there would be a move back to ten would be if two schools that fit would make serious inquiries. Both Willard and Crestline have contacted the N10 this week. Neither of which really fit. Crestline walked away once and that probably wont get them a second look. Willard would be a good fit in most all sports. Hell 5 of the 9 teams are playing them in boys basketball this season. But like I said "fit" is important and I dont know if all the schools like that fit. What I have been told is 8 and a league name change are on the way after this season. I vote the Crawford Cronie League....ππ Which is worse? Crestline walking away OR Upper being kicked out then welcomed back with open arms shortly there after?
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Post by bigox on Oct 26, 2019 5:29:21 GMT -5
Ten is a terrible number for a football league, and presents some problems in the other sports also. Forced crossover games between larger and smaller schools doesn't work, the old NCC proved that. The SBC has tried to "encourage" crossover games but not require them. How's that going? Even if two schools that "fit" presented themselves, the current N10, or 8 or whatever you want to call them, will not go to ten. Any additions will be the result of their number going to seven or less for some reason. Just for arguments sake if ten is so bad then why does it work so well for the WBL or other leagues with 10. They make it work really well for all sports. I agree football wise its nicer to have 3 nonconference games. But the least amount of hassle in finding only one nonconference seems pretty simple. The only real argument would be IF (and that's an anomaly) Upper ever got good at football they wouldn't get good points from beating most of the Current n10 teams.
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Post by bigox on Oct 26, 2019 5:35:42 GMT -5
The only way that there would be a move back to ten would be if two schools that fit would make serious inquiries. Both Willard and Crestline have contacted the N10 this week. Neither of which really fit. Crestline walked away once and that probably wont get them a second look. Willard would be a good fit in most all sports. Hell 5 of the 9 teams are playing them in boys basketball this season. But like I said "fit" is important and I dont know if all the schools like that fit. What I have been told is 8 and a league name change are on the way after this season. I vote the Crawford Cronie League....ππ Which is worse? Crestline walking away OR Upper being kicked out then welcomed back with open arms shortly there after?Β Β Both are bad. Crestline couldn't even compete complete games in football before they left. And seen the writing on the wall and bailed. New administration feels they would be a good fit again. But if I had to choose Upper coming back to the N10 was foolish especially if it could have predicted the southern part of the Moac leaving. But you cant predicted everything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 7:19:19 GMT -5
Ten is a terrible number for a football league, and presents some problems in the other sports also. Forced crossover games between larger and smaller schools doesn't work, the old NCC proved that. The SBC has tried to "encourage" crossover games but not require them. How's that going? Even if two schools that "fit" presented themselves, the current N10, or 8 or whatever you want to call them, will not go to ten. Any additions will be the result of their number going to seven or less for some reason. Just for arguments sake if ten is so bad then why does it work so well for the WBL or other leagues with 10. They make it work really well for all sports. I agree football wise its nicer to have 3 nonconference games. But the least amount of hassle in finding only one nonconference seems pretty simple. The only real argument would be IF (and that's an anomaly) Upper ever got good at football they wouldn't get good points from beating most of the Current n10 teams. It works for the WBL because in other sports they donβt play a double-round robin, but since the MAC is basically the same area they play all those schools. The MAC doesnβt play a double-round robin either. N10 seems to want to continue to play a double-round robin. Probably see a name change and the current 8 will be established going forward
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Post by fbfan on Oct 26, 2019 7:43:58 GMT -5
bighoss is correct. There were many complaints 1st year of N10 (such as from BB and volleyball teams) about not having enough non conference games to prepare for league and/or rivals they wanted to play. Going away from double round robin creates too many non conference games. The current N10 schools are never going to vote for adding two schools to make 10 no matter who they are.
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Post by usramfan on Oct 26, 2019 14:44:20 GMT -5
The N10 has no plans to expand anytime soon.
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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 26, 2019 19:03:39 GMT -5
The N10 has no plans to expand anytime soon. Does that change if BC moves to 8-man?
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Post by GHS 1999 on Nov 6, 2019 12:31:13 GMT -5
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