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Post by xlegend on Nov 19, 2019 8:35:08 GMT -5
I like Myles too. Great defender,slasher and rebounder. The one thing he needs is a pull up jumpshot. I can't remember the last time he took a shot outside of 10 feet. Most of his scoring is at the rim.as far as schedule goes I think it's pretty good but along with everyone else I sure would of liked to see us play Sandusky and Mansfield senior this year.go foashes
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Post by averagejoe on Nov 20, 2019 12:56:19 GMT -5
Sure, I would like to see the bottom six upgraded to Mansfield, Ontario, Lexington, Sandusky, Fremont, and maybe a Cleveland/Toledo/Columbus/Akron team. This years schedule is a bit upgraded compared to last year. Not easy to upgrade all non conference games in 1 year, with home and home contracts. I'm guessing will see a little more upgrading next year, then level off with 8 larger schools/good programs and 4 same size/smaller schools. why would sr high want to play willard. we look for good teams to play to get ready for districts. northland, hoban, st v, massillon, hoover are teams we play.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 20, 2019 17:16:39 GMT -5
What I'm about to say might get some of you mad at me but oh well.i went to the scrimmage last night over in ontario.the schools that was there were Willard ,Ontario,buckeye valley, Medina valley and Wooster triway Willard fans we are in for a long year and remember I'm the one that said we would be better this year than last year.im going to eat a big Poop sandwich and say I wrong for saying that.we didn't have miles last night dew to ankle sprain he suffered down in cbus over the weekend.he does the dirty work for us so I'm taking that in consideration first... we do not have an inside game at all.NONE.second...we can't guard anyone. Guys are driving by us without any help.teams were shooting layups.third...we don't have any depth.we literally only have 6 kids.some of the kids that I thought could help hasn't developed yet.overall...we have a team that is little above average.joe has his work cut out for him this year. There are some talented players but not a great team.i wish I could say it's going to be a great year and another long tourney run but as of RIGHT NOW that's a long shot.12 to 14 wins would be my guess.go flashes.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 20, 2019 21:20:00 GMT -5
You're depressed because Triway, Buckeye Valley and Ontario are considerably better than DI Worthington Kilbourne. I would say DIII Willard is an equal to DII Buckeye Valley, Triway and Ontario. That's nothing to be upset about. You're closer to the team, but I knew Willard wouldn't be better this year. Due to the fact they had 2 valuable Seniors graduate and there's no one to replace them. NO coach can develop a 6-4 220 athlete that can jump out the gym(transfer). However, a good coach at a basketball school like Willard, should be able to develop a sound PG in every class. That at a minimum is a good ball handler and passer that can run the offense and get the ball to the 2 main scorers on the team. No PG means Willard's best off the ball guard is forced to play PG, and he does a good job, but would be better served playing the 2 guard. When Willard needed a basket last night all they had was for their 6-8 kid and their off guard(I know their names, but it's not my place to use them) from last year played a 2 man pick and roll game beyond the 3 point line. Willard could have an inside game this year if they had a coach that made their 6-8 player do what was best for the TEAM. A few years ago Balogh had a 6-7 kid, the best part of his game was shooting 3-pointers, but Balogh MADE him play in the post. Triway and Ontario's coaches are known for developing players.
Buckeye Valley has a FAR FAR better class of Sophomores than any class at Willard, Triway or Ontario. Last year they had 4 Freshmen playing varsity, 3 playing JV AND 10 kids on their Freshman team. As Freshmen one was 6-6 and four were 6-1, two of the 6-1 kids played PG last year, one on varsity and one on JVs. That class didn't lose a game in 7th and 8th grade and no one got closer than 25 points....do not feel bad about losing a quarter to them. They ALSO had 3 Sophs last year that were 6-6, 6-3, 6-3. Keep your eye on them next year and the year after.
I'm quite sure Willard will be better by the mid point of the season than they are now. Based on their schedule they will EASILY win 12-14 games and make the District Finals in a weaker District than last year. I was surprised Willard only had 8 players. Instead of concentrating on his First 5, Balogh is still rotating 12 players in scrimmages looking for 3 to come off his bench for an 8 player rotation.
BTW, it was Medina BUCKEYE at the scrimmage, not Medina "valley".
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 20, 2019 22:19:22 GMT -5
What I'm about to say might get some of you mad at me but oh well.i went to the scrimmage last night over in ontario.the schools that was there were Willard ,Ontario,buckeye valley, Medina valley and Wooster triway Willard fans we are in for a long year and remember I'm the one that said we would be better this year than last year.im going to eat a big Poop sandwich and say I wrong for saying that.we didn't have miles last night dew to ankle sprain he suffered down in cbus over the weekend.he does the dirty work for us so I'm taking that in consideration first... we do not have an inside game at all.NONE.second...we can't guard anyone. Guys are driving by us without any help.teams were shooting layups.third...we don't have any depth.we literally only have 6 kids.some of the kids that I thought could help hasn't developed yet.overall...we have a team that is little above average.joe has his work cut out for him this year. There are some talented players but not a great team.i wish I could say it's going to be a great year and another long tourney run but as of RIGHT NOW that's a long shot.12 to 14 wins would be my guess.go flashes. You know what I like about you, legend? You have an honest opinion and aren’t afraid to share it. I heard that the JV and freshman are struggling with numbers as well. I also heard they made cuts, a few kids that have played and started for years. Maybe there were issues there but if they are small issues I would think to try and get them corrected instead of cutting an already thin team.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 21, 2019 7:36:15 GMT -5
If they didn't have Pinkston last night it probably did effect the overall performance. Does the Cok boy bring anything to the table at all? Haven't heard his name mentioned. Did the Slone boy come back out?
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 21, 2019 11:21:39 GMT -5
If they didn't have Pinkston last night it probably did effect the overall performance. Does the Cok boy bring anything to the table at all? Haven't heard his name mentioned. Did the Slone boy come back out? Pinkston brings some good defense, probably best defender on the team. Not sure about the Slone kid but on the Willard site he isn't in the picture. The Cok kid and the Meisner kid both have good outside shots but looks like they are wanting more inside post players rather than shooters from outside. I would move the Meisner kid to 1, parrot to 2, Cok to 3, pinkston to 4 and the baldridge to 5. This would give you the inside threat that xlegend is talking about because the pinkston kid is good inside and not many can guard a 6'8" kid down low. Meisner and Cok bring some outside fire power and this would spread the defense and open up for pinkston and baldridge down low with some good kicks out to the parrot kid spotting up.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 21, 2019 15:37:29 GMT -5
It sounds like a few kids may need to be developed to help out thats' for sure.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2019 17:12:14 GMT -5
Difficult to develop now for this year. Developing on JVs last year and during the off season is when it shows up for this year.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 21, 2019 22:25:01 GMT -5
If they didn't have Pinkston last night it probably did effect the overall performance. Does the Cok boy bring anything to the table at all? Haven't heard his name mentioned. Did the Slone boy come back out? I did take pinkston not playing into consideration and like I said he does the dirty work but doesn't add another 5 to 6 wins for us. Myles is an excellent defender but can't guard all five guys at once...the slone kid did not go out. He could of helped.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 21, 2019 22:33:10 GMT -5
Difficult to develop now for this year. Developing on JVs last year and during the off season is when it shows up for this year. you are correct about Medina buckeye instead of Medina valley.im not depressed about who we scrimmaged but I thought we would be a very good team this year.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 21, 2019 22:50:45 GMT -5
Difficult to develop now for this year. Developing on JVs last year and during the off season is when it shows up for this year. you are correct about Medina buckeye instead of Medina valley.im not depressed about who we scrimmaged but I thought we would be a very good team this year. Nothing like packing it in on how good a team could be before the first game.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 21, 2019 22:51:36 GMT -5
You're depressed because Triway, Buckeye Valley and Ontario are considerably better than DI Worthington Kilbourne. I would say DIII Willard is an equal to DII Buckeye Valley, Triway and Ontario. That's nothing to be upset about. You're closer to the team, but I knew Willard wouldn't be better this year. Due to the fact they had 2 valuable Seniors graduate and there's no one to replace them. NO coach can develop a 6-4 220 athlete that can jump out the gym(transfer). However, a good coach at a basketball school like Willard, should be able to develop a sound PG in every class. That at a minimum is a good ball handler and passer that can run the offense and get the ball to the 2 main scorers on the team. No PG means Willard's best off the ball guard is forced to play PG, and he does a good job, but would be better served playing the 2 guard. When Willard needed a basket last night all they had was for their 6-8 kid and their off guard(I know their names, but it's not my place to use them) from last year played a 2 man pick and roll game beyond the 3 point line. Willard could have an inside game this year if they had a coach that made their 6-8 player do what was best for the TEAM. A few years ago Balogh had a 6-7 kid, the best part of his game was shooting 3-pointers, but Balogh MADE him play in the post. Triway and Ontario's coaches are known for developing players. Buckeye Valley has a FAR FAR better class of Sophomores than any class at Willard, Triway or Ontario. Last year they had 4 Freshmen playing varsity, 3 playing JV AND 10 kids on their Freshman team. As Freshmen one was 6-6 and four were 6-1, two of the 6-1 kids played PG last year, one on varsity and one on JVs. That class didn't lose a game in 7th and 8th grade and no one got closer than 25 points....do not feel bad about losing a quarter to them. They ALSO had 3 Sophs last year that were 6-6, 6-3, 6-3. Keep your eye on them next year and the year after. I'm quite sure Willard will be better by the mid point of the season than they are now. Based on their schedule they will EASILY win 12-14 games and make the District Finals in a weaker District than last year. I was surprised Willard only had 8 players. Instead of concentrating on his First 5, Balogh is still rotating 12 players in scrimmages looking for 3 to come off his bench for an 8 player rotation. BTW, it was Medina BUCKEYE at the scrimmage, not Medina "valley". your right about Medina buckeye instead of Medina valley I told a good friend of mine last night that I would put baldridge on the block right now. Not sure about moving the Parrott kid off the point. He's a senior and I trust him on making the right decision.i get where your coming from.btw forget about that last post. It was suppose to go on this one.
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Post by xlegend on Nov 21, 2019 22:54:27 GMT -5
you are correct about Medina buckeye instead of Medina valley.im not depressed about who we scrimmaged but I thought we would be a very good team this year. Nothing like packing it in on how good a team could be before the first game. not packing anything in. Sorry you feel that way. I knew I would make some people mad or upset but I see what I see.i hope I'm wrong. I really do go flashes
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2019 23:03:17 GMT -5
Difficult to develop now for this year. Developing on JVs last year and during the off season is when it shows up for this year. you are correct about Medina buckeye instead of Medina valley.im not depressed about who we scrimmaged but I thought we would be a very good team this year. You thought Willard would be good enough to dominate Buckeye Valley, Triway and Ontario? Why?
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Post by xlegend on Nov 21, 2019 23:51:19 GMT -5
you are correct about Medina buckeye instead of Medina valley.im not depressed about who we scrimmaged but I thought we would be a very good team this year. You thought Willard would be good enough to dominate Buckeye Valley, Triway and Ontario? Why? we have two of the best players in the district and other players that saw varsity minutes last year. Myles not playing hurt us also.why shouldn't I've thought that. I will say I don't have any clue about the teams we scrimmaged except for Ontario.
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Post by sport24278 on Nov 22, 2019 8:35:50 GMT -5
but i already bought my tickets and booked a room for columbus based on all the hype. crap.
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 22, 2019 8:50:40 GMT -5
but i already bought my tickets and booked a room for columbus based on all the hype. crap. Not a lot of hype by a lot of people, maybe a few and one already backtracked a little. This is a solid team and they'll do fine. They'll struggle a little if they get into a horse race but they'll hold their own with everyone on their schedule this year, winning most. Will likely breeze through Sectionals and 1st round of Districts, then it gets tough and always is for everyone. Never know who is going to get hot at any given time, anything can happen.
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Post by dude on Nov 22, 2019 9:09:08 GMT -5
You thought Willard would be good enough to dominate Buckeye Valley, Triway and Ontario? Why? we have two of the best players in the district and other players that saw varsity minutes last year. Myles not playing hurt us also.why shouldn't I've thought that. I will say I don't have any clue about the teams we scrimmaged except for Ontario. Are you speaking of the Northwest District or the Willard district?
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Post by xlegend on Nov 22, 2019 11:38:14 GMT -5
we have two of the best players in the district and other players that saw varsity minutes last year. Myles not playing hurt us also.why shouldn't I've thought that. I will say I don't have any clue about the teams we scrimmaged except for Ontario. Are you speaking of the Northwest District or the Willard district? Willard's district.btw we scrimmage at Western reserve tomorrow at 10am.
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Post by dude on Nov 22, 2019 11:42:46 GMT -5
Are you speaking of the Northwest District or the Willard district? Willard's district.btw we scrimmage at Western reserve tomorrow at 10am. Would not you have ALL of the best players in the Willard District?
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Post by xlegend on Nov 22, 2019 11:55:32 GMT -5
Defense is what hurt us at regionals last year but I think the coaching staff didn't believe they could shoot it that good two games in a row.i often wonder why kids get beat off the dribble with the kid their guarding dominate hand. I've always said cut the man in half and play him straight up.make him beat you with his weak hand. I see it over and over again. I can see us playing somewhat of a matchup zone a lot this year.go flashes
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Post by xlegend on Nov 22, 2019 11:58:48 GMT -5
Willard's district.btw we scrimmage at Western reserve tomorrow at 10am. Would not you have ALL of the best players in the Willard District? I see your back at poking the bear.i meant the district that Willard plays in.i think it might be district 6. Why are you like this you knew what I meant
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Post by dude on Nov 22, 2019 12:16:44 GMT -5
Would not you have ALL of the best players in the Willard District? I see your back at poking the bear.i meant the district that Willard plays in.i think it might be district 6. Why are you like this you knew what I meant I never thought of you as a bear and certainly would poke one. I was looking for clarification as I feel the District has some very good players and if you have two of the top ones you would have done better at Ontario. But since I NOW know you are talking about the Div 3 District 6 area which means about 13 team, I would say you have a very good chance of being correct. Cooper is a top player for sure.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 22, 2019 13:08:10 GMT -5
For sport 24278 I did the same regarding Norwalk football. Ready for that State Semi game, and all the Glory from WLKR and the Norwalk Reflector.
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Post by sport24278 on Nov 22, 2019 13:29:20 GMT -5
For sport 24278 I did the same regarding Norwalk football. Ready for that State Semi game, and all the Glory from WLKR and the Norwalk Reflector. Then Freddy Fox and/ or Todd Kitchens took over and made like Thad Cooper---end of Football season for the Mighty Trucker Program. now THAT is funny, a willard guy taking a shot at somebody else's football program. anyways, see you in columbus!
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Post by truecrimson on Nov 22, 2019 13:34:12 GMT -5
Defense is what hurt us at regionals last year but I think the coaching staff didn't believe they could shoot it that good two games in a row.i often wonder why kids get beat off the dribble with the kid their guarding dominate hand. I've always said cut the man in half and play him straight up.make him beat you with his weak hand. I see it over and over again. I can see us playing somewhat of a matchup zone a lot this year.go flashes I like the 1-3-1 with the pinkston kid at top, 3 wide wing span kids in the middle and the baldridge kid underneath.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 22, 2019 13:51:10 GMT -5
What is pretty rich is how the Norwalkians think they have a "hot program" because of a couple winning seasons in a row. Nothing but losses for about 40 + years over there till last year. And with a huge student body and a bunch of move ins. You guys will never be anything other than St Paul's little brother
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Post by sport24278 on Nov 22, 2019 13:56:46 GMT -5
What is pretty rich is how the Norwalkians think they have a "hot program" because of a couple winning seasons in a row. Nothing but losses for about 40 + years over there till last year. And with a huge student body and a bunch of move ins. You guys will never be anything other than St Paul's little brother wow, you are pretty bitter. and yet you would drop to your knees to get todd fox back at willard. will fully admit norwalk football has had struggles, but they won a title and went undefeated a few years back. and the last thing i concern myself with is sp. i'll stop and let you continue posting, need to get this thread up to 70 pages again this year!
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Post by xlegend on Nov 22, 2019 14:08:19 GMT -5
Defense is what hurt us at regionals last year but I think the coaching staff didn't believe they could shoot it that good two games in a row.i often wonder why kids get beat off the dribble with the kid their guarding dominate hand. I've always said cut the man in half and play him straight up.make him beat you with his weak hand. I see it over and over again. I can see us playing somewhat of a matchup zone a lot this year.go flashes I like the 1-3-1 with the pinkston kid at top, 3 wide wing span kids in the middle and the baldridge kid underneath. sounds good but the only thing I don't like about 1-3-1 is the corners are open and elbows can be exposed. We will have to play with a lot of hustle and grit. I kind of like a 1-2-2.jmho.
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