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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 22, 2019 23:12:48 GMT -5
D3 State Semifinal - 7pm Friday at Nordonia
Mansfield is making their 1st trip to the final 4, and Aurora is making their 5th (06, 08 champs, 11, 12)
I'm mildly disappointed to find out Aurora's team name is not Borealis
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 24, 2019 15:59:16 GMT -5
This game will be at Nordonia
I typically roll my eyes at most playoff location complaints, but I can see some reason for Mansfield fans to be a bit irked at this one. It's 19 minutes from Aurora vs. 67 minutes from Mansfield.
Though it's worth noting that it can be hard to find schools to host on Thanksgiving weekend.
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Post by unc4life on Nov 24, 2019 18:22:26 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of Mansfield people bitching about the location of next weeks game. All I have to say is you are in the final 4...I would drive 8 hours to watch my team play in a final 4 game. Enjoy the experience, enjoying being there, take advantage of a Thanksgiving weekend game. I have gotten to experience one, I’m not sure it will ever happen again. Enjoy it.
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Post by buckeye33 on Nov 24, 2019 18:26:03 GMT -5
Right, enjoy it. But OHSAA has to do a better job of finding a neutral field, or be transparent and post the sites that put in bids or offered to host, Its unfortunate that a final four game is basically a home game for a team
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Post by mcm1019 on Nov 25, 2019 8:41:31 GMT -5
OHSAA doesn't HAVE to do anything other than arrange the gamesite and tell the teams where they're going. Last year they sent Norwalk to Wapakoneta (over 2 hours away) to play Kettering Alter (about an hour away). Senior needs to just be happy to still be playing this week.
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Post by buckeye33 on Nov 25, 2019 21:48:41 GMT -5
Right, and Norwalk got whooped on...thanks for clarifying my point.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Nov 26, 2019 9:28:14 GMT -5
Right, and Norwalk got whooped on...thanks for clarifying my point. The Cleveland Cavaliers often have the fewest miles traveled as a team in an average NBA season. The Warriors often have the longest. Tell me how travel affected these teams. What kind of high school team in the final four can't overcome an extra sixty minutes on a bus ride through their warm up routine? What do you think those Aurora kids will be doing with all their extra time not spent traveling? |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Nov 26, 2019 9:30:07 GMT -5
But OHSAA has to do a better job of finding a neutral field... It's not at Mansfield Senior or at Aurora, thus it... is... a neutral field... |
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 26, 2019 11:58:47 GMT -5
But OHSAA has to do a better job of finding a neutral field... It's not at Mansfield Senior or at Aurora, thus it... is... a neutral field... It’s location gives an undeniable advantage to Aurora thus while it may be a neutral site on paper it is anything but in reality. |
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Post by dude on Nov 26, 2019 12:09:22 GMT -5
Right, enjoy it. But OHSAA has to do a better job of finding a neutral field, or be transparent and post the sites that put in bids or offered to host, Its unfortunate that a final four game is basically a home game for a team No they do not. The idea is to find the best suitable location AVAILABLE for the game within reasonable travel. The phrase neutral filed indicates it is not the home field of either team. They did that for this game. Lucas is very happy to be in a in a very similar situation. It's Thanksgiving weekend and not many schools want to host and driving an hour for a state final four game is well within reason. Most of the people from Mansfield complaining would not make the trip if it was played in Wooster. |
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Post by dude on Nov 26, 2019 12:13:19 GMT -5
It's not at Mansfield Senior or at Aurora, thus it... is... a neutral field... It’s location gives an undeniable advantage to Aurora thus while it may be a neutral site on paper it is anything but in reality. Ask the Mansfield coaching staff if they would play on any field in Ohio for a chance to make the state championship game. |
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Post by heresjim on Nov 26, 2019 13:59:33 GMT -5
It’s location gives an undeniable advantage to Aurora thus while it may be a neutral site on paper it is anything but in reality. Ask the Mansfield coaching staff if they would play on any field in Ohio for a chance to make the state championship game. So what's the argument here? That people shouldn't care where the game is played? That it doesn't matter? You are literally just stating "shut up, be grateful, it's fine". Yes, the OHSAA has fulfilled their duty in finding what they defined as a neutral field, but people are allowed to expect better. I understand if there are no better options, but that is not the case correct? Is there something about this field that makes this option superior to others? I'm not saying that this will make a huge difference at the end of the day in terms of the game result, but it's not exactly out of the question to help even up the driving time if possible. If anything, it helps the fans who have to eat the gas costs. |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Nov 26, 2019 14:03:22 GMT -5
Y'all are allowed to voice displeasure. That's fine and part of the improvement process. Ideally, a field is exactly in the center.
What drives me up the wall is when the detractors of a given site act like a team will have an irreparable chance of victory because of where the game is played. Bro. Grose ain't going to drop a pass or be unable to beat his guy because he had to sit down on a bus for an extra 60-75 minutes than his opponent.
Who will watch the game on Friday and think, damn, you can really tell that bus ride hurt this Mansfield squad. What. What?? Yeah it may be unfair but it sure isn't malicious.
My brother teaches at a school in Arizona. They are very close to the Four Corners. Their girl's basketball team won a state title a few years ago. I can't imagine how, considering they had to likely drive further than any team to get to Phoenix. They should have gotten TWO trophies because of the undying uphill climb they had to persevere over that unequal bus ride.
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Post by dude on Nov 26, 2019 14:15:25 GMT -5
Ask the Mansfield coaching staff if they would play on any field in Ohio for a chance to make the state championship game. So what's the argument here? That people shouldn't care where the game is played? That it doesn't matter? You are literally just stating "shut up, be grateful, it's fine". I understand if there are no better options, but that is not the case correct? I'm not saying that this will make a huge difference at the end of the day, but it's not exactly out of the question to help even up the driving time. If anything, it helps the fans who have to eat the gas costs. I'm saying fans can absolutely care where the game is played, but it doesn't make a difference and you are correct, it doesn't matter. Going into each week of the post season OHSAA has a list of schools that have interest in hosting games depending on who wins. Some are ruled out based on capacity and or parking. Some are designated for the larger division games and some for the smaller divisions. Some have interest on Fridays only and some for only Saturdays. Did I mention is Thanksgiving. This problem affects other games this weekend. Pick Central and Lucas just to mention a couple. We could assume if there was an all around better option provided to OHSAA they would have used it. |
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Post by unc4life on Nov 26, 2019 15:10:41 GMT -5
I agree that the OHSAA could do a better job with site selection. At some point you have to wonder what the OHSAA is doing that so many schools just don't even want to host a playoff game? This problem doesn't just include football either. Most schools in the OCC don't have to deal with this, but Ashland get screwed in many sports come tournament time with travel times. Playing Toledo area schools in Sylvania on a school night, sometimes multiple times in a week is crazy.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 27, 2019 8:32:12 GMT -5
calpreps.com: Aurora 22 Senior 14
Drew Pasteur: Aurora by 10
Houseworth's: Aurora by 6
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Post by unc4life on Nov 29, 2019 19:12:48 GMT -5
Mansfield wins the toss and takes the ball (terrible call).
Mansfield goes 3 and out.
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Post by unc4life on Nov 29, 2019 19:13:39 GMT -5
Mansfield gets a 4th down stop. Takes over on downs.
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Post by unc4life on Nov 29, 2019 19:16:35 GMT -5
7-0 Mansfield. Big running play sets up the TD.
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Nov 29, 2019 19:17:34 GMT -5
7-0 Mansfield
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Nov 29, 2019 19:18:44 GMT -5
7-7
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Post by unc4life on Nov 29, 2019 19:21:24 GMT -5
7-7 still in the first.
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Nov 29, 2019 19:27:49 GMT -5
end 1st 7-7
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Post by fredgarvin on Nov 29, 2019 19:44:57 GMT -5
I am watching this game online through Spectrum, and let me just say that I want to stab every single person swinging the cowbells. SO irritating to listen to while trying to watch the game.
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Post by fredgarvin on Nov 29, 2019 20:06:50 GMT -5
Mansfield up 14-7 halftime.
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Post by fredgarvin on Nov 29, 2019 20:52:06 GMT -5
Still 14-7 Mansfield. End of 3.
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Post by fredgarvin on Nov 29, 2019 21:04:09 GMT -5
14 all and Aurora has momentum after an interception.
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Post by fredgarvin on Nov 29, 2019 21:14:32 GMT -5
Overtime. 14 all after end of regulation.
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Post by fredgarvin on Nov 29, 2019 21:25:08 GMT -5
21 all. Going to overtime #2.
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Post by fredgarvin on Nov 29, 2019 21:36:21 GMT -5
Mansfield wins 27-21.
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