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Post by jmorgret07 on Jan 21, 2020 15:25:54 GMT -5
Hammond is expected to be named the coach for the Panthers.
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Post by tonyperkis on Jan 21, 2020 18:41:36 GMT -5
to coach 8 boys football? NICE! IMO his better days of coaching have passed him by. Kids will not like his system. Too hard. RIP SMCC FB
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Post by kingmartinez on Jan 21, 2020 20:33:46 GMT -5
to coach 8 boys football? NICE! IMO his better days of coaching have passed him by. Kids will not like his system. Too hard. RIP SMCC FB From reading his quotes in the article, I'd agree. It's also obvious there is a big disconnect between him and this generation of student-athletes. While there may be accuracy to some of his statements, he definitely sounds like a "get off my lawn" guy. www.sanduskyregister.com/story/202001210018 |
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Post by sportsvideo on Jan 21, 2020 22:27:43 GMT -5
I like Toby. But yeah. This marriage may not work well. Kids are raised different and you’re not going to change that. So you have give a little if you want to get something back from them. It’s not 1990. It’s 30 years later. You better adapt if you want them to jump on the bandwagon.
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Post by richrod on Jan 25, 2020 12:53:05 GMT -5
do you think he will be able to get them to 11 man? I would say most likely not, there just isn't enough enrollment and possibly even interest from students in that case to do it.
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Post by areafan1 on Feb 6, 2020 2:27:16 GMT -5
Has anyone heard more about SMCC numbers? Do they have a deadline to let the league know by? I do hope they return for league sake and their proud past.
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 6, 2020 12:47:37 GMT -5
Has anyone heard more about SMCC numbers? Do they have a deadline to let the league know by? I do hope they return for league sake and their proud past. The deadline they've set is end of this month. If they think they can go back to 11-man, I don't think any of the strain the situation has caused will go away because no one believes they can field 11-man until August rolls around and enough kids actually come out. |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 21, 2020 16:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 21:10:05 GMT -5
Not a good sign when you are trying to recruit kids to go out
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Post by richrod on Feb 23, 2020 15:20:03 GMT -5
they need to just go to 8 man and be done with it. its going to be a trend in places in northwest and western ohio, maybe even down on the river. its probably the best move for them if they want to hang onto their football program.
the real question is, would it have helped them to drop from the SBC in fotball once enrollment declined and they were the doormat in the league for so many years. it had to hurt participation numbers knowing you were going to get waxed by clyde, perkins, and the rest of the old SBC.
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Post by runawaytrain on Feb 27, 2020 9:21:40 GMT -5
So is SMCC taking the entire week to decide or what?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 12:22:39 GMT -5
Yup, They'll have 40 kids commit now, And say yes to 11 man football. Then, As conditioning starts, A few will drop out, Because it's to much work, Then more commitment will be expected out of the rest. During the summer months with those anniversary Cedar Point passes, More kids will be there, than at football practice, They'll wanna do other things than be committed to something constructive. So, we'll be back to where we were last August, Pulling an Edison Freshman football thing, Sorry, don't have enough kids to play, Again. Then there will be another emergency to find games far away, Then we'll complain about the scheduling. What a vicious cycle.
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Post by runawaytrain on Feb 27, 2020 12:54:23 GMT -5
Yup, They'll have 40 kids commit now, And say yes to 11 man football. Then, As conditioning starts, A few will drop out, Because it's to much work, Then more commitment will be expected out of the rest. During the summer months with those anniversary Cedar Point passes, More kids will be there, than at football practice, They'll wanna do other things than be committed to something constructive. So, we'll be back to where we were last August, Pulling an Edison Freshman football thing, Sorry, don't have enough kids to play, Again. Then there will be another emergency to find games far away, Then we'll complain about the scheduling. What a vicious cycle. Which is why there are hard feelings throughout the league and it's hindering additional teams coming to the league. If they had 40 kids commit now, I'd have no problem with them going forward. My guess is they'll be more in the range of 20 kids commit now - and that's the where the worry would set in with the above scenario. I'm not sure there's a good answer other than to levy significant financial penalties against SMCC or any other team that can't fulfill its league obligation. Hitting the pocket book should make them think twice about their confidence. |
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Post by richrod on Feb 27, 2020 17:01:29 GMT -5
Yup, They'll have 40 kids commit now, And say yes to 11 man football. Then, As conditioning starts, A few will drop out, Because it's to much work, Then more commitment will be expected out of the rest. During the summer months with those anniversary Cedar Point passes, More kids will be there, than at football practice, They'll wanna do other things than be committed to something constructive. So, we'll be back to where we were last August, Pulling an Edison Freshman football thing, Sorry, don't have enough kids to play, Again. Then there will be another emergency to find games far away, Then we'll complain about the scheduling. What a vicious cycle. Which is why there are hard feelings throughout the league and it's hindering additional teams coming to the league. If they had 40 kids commit now, I'd have no problem with them going forward. My guess is they'll be more in the range of 20 kids commit now - and that's the where the worry would set in with the above scenario. I'm not sure there's a good answer other than to levy significant financial penalties against SMCC or any other team that can't fulfill its league obligation. Hitting the pocket book should make them think twice about their confidence. they could vote to remove them from the league. It has to be in bylaws somewhere. I mean the river wouldn't be hurt in any sports without them. There are plenty of schools there and plenty of schools you can add there. they need to just bite the bullet and move to 8 man and be done. they need to recognize enrollment most likely won't increase and just accept an 8 man future or dump football altogether. as to what mark may said about scheduling, I agree totally. |
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Post by areafan1 on Feb 28, 2020 0:04:15 GMT -5
Spoke to asst. coach for SMCC last night and he thought they're going to 8 man.
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Post by falcon87 on Feb 28, 2020 6:42:53 GMT -5
If they decide to play 11-man who are they going to play? Word among some small schools in the fall was they were being told to find a replacement for the ‘20 season and I understood most did so.
I think the final nail for SMCC was when they found out they weren’t dominant in the River. Kids and parents were stunned.
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 28, 2020 6:50:49 GMT -5
Which is why there are hard feelings throughout the league and it's hindering additional teams coming to the league. If they had 40 kids commit now, I'd have no problem with them going forward. My guess is they'll be more in the range of 20 kids commit now - and that's the where the worry would set in with the above scenario. I'm not sure there's a good answer other than to levy significant financial penalties against SMCC or any other team that can't fulfill its league obligation. Hitting the pocket book should make them think twice about their confidence. they could vote to remove them from the league. It has to be in bylaws somewhere. I mean the river wouldn't be hurt in any sports without them. There are plenty of schools there and plenty of schools you can add there. they need to just bite the bullet and move to 8 man and be done. they need to recognize enrollment most likely won't increase and just accept an 8 man future or dump football altogether. as to what mark may said about scheduling, I agree totally. i don't see them removing them from the league over this.... if so are you removing danbury? and st joe when it happens to them, or tiffin calvert as well... its all likely coming.. none of the rivers are going to want to move up to the bay.. you accept their decision and they become another new riegel, old fort ect. |
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Post by falcon87 on Feb 28, 2020 7:06:48 GMT -5
Elmwood, Woodmore, Northwood, Ottawa Hills and others are looking at options for themselves including pulling in current River football schools. Keeping SMCC and Danbury limits options for them joining a super-sized River division. The geography for most in other sports especially weeknight MS games is a deal breaker.
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Post by runawaytrain on Feb 28, 2020 9:02:48 GMT -5
Elmwood, Woodmore, Northwood, Ottawa Hills and others are looking at options for themselves including pulling in current River football schools. Keeping SMCC and Danbury limits options for them joining a super-sized River division. The geography for most in other sports especially weeknight MS games is a deal breaker. The first option was/is to take some of those schools into the SBC in expansion. If SMCC does indeed to 8-man it's interesting, because if they join the Northern 8, it's a 4-year commitment. It was also be interesting to see how Toby does with 8-man. |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 28, 2020 11:26:48 GMT -5
It sounds like Toby Hammond WANTS 8-man this year?
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Post by runawaytrain on Feb 28, 2020 11:35:02 GMT -5
It sounds like Toby Hammond WANTS 8-man this year? "This year".....that's the thing - they can't keep going year-to-year. How do you continue to find week 7 and week 8 openings every year? |
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 28, 2020 14:05:34 GMT -5
lets just go with a Clyde Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Huron Port Clinton Oak Harbor Vermilion SBC let the rest leave.... that's if oak harbor and vermilion are ok with it.
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Post by gridiron58 on Feb 28, 2020 15:32:36 GMT -5
lets just go with a Clyde Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Huron Port Clinton Oak Harbor Vermilion SBC let the rest leave.... that's if oak harbor and vermilion are ok with it. Replace Huron with Edison (you know... the team that actually made the playoffs this year?) Huron can leave. |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 28, 2020 16:22:09 GMT -5
It is official: Sandusky St. Mary will play 8-man football this fall.
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 28, 2020 17:30:52 GMT -5
lets just go with a Clyde Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Huron Port Clinton Oak Harbor Vermilion SBC let the rest leave.... that's if oak harbor and vermilion are ok with it. Replace Huron with Edison (you know... the team that actually made the playoffs this year?) Huron can leave. sounds good to me |
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Post by falcon87 on Feb 28, 2020 17:57:00 GMT -5
It is official: Sandusky St. Mary will play 8-man football this fall. It’ll be interesting to see who the other 6 River schools get to replace them (if anyone) at this point |
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Post by runawaytrain on Feb 28, 2020 21:55:12 GMT -5
Calvert is at Troy Christian in 2020 and at Arlington in 2021
They still have one opening for week 7 in each year
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Post by Green Falcon on Feb 28, 2020 22:28:11 GMT -5
Arlington had a mid/late season opening?
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Post by runawaytrain on Feb 29, 2020 8:25:38 GMT -5
Arlington had a mid/late season opening? BVC never replaced HL....Crestline took the spot last year and this year but they are joining the NWCC next year, so each school will have an opening on that side of the BVC. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 9:18:17 GMT -5
One good thing, St. Mary is quite a bit more respectful to the SBC than Edison is, Of not having enuff kids to play, Especially at the Freshman level.
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