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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2020 23:02:48 GMT -5
Tuesday 2/11
Madison at Harding
Ontario at Ashland
Wednesday 2/12
Cardington at River Valley
Lucas at Galion
Thursday 2/13
Clear Fork at Harding
Ontario at Pleasant
Friday 2/14
River Valley at Grandview
Shelby at Galion
Saturday 2/15
Clear Fork at Lucas
Mt. Vernon at Harding
Ontario at Mansfield Senior
St. Petes at Shelby
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2020 23:25:12 GMT -5
Ontario 57, Ashland 53
A good back and forth game. Ontario lead by as many as 6 in the first quarter. Ashland came back and took a 2 point lead late in the 2nd. Ontario led by 2 at half time. Ashland led by as many as 6 in the 3rd. When the Ashland coach took the air out of the ball, giving up on the strength of his his team, shooting 3-pointers and had his guards go one on one, driving to the basket when Ontario guards picked them up around mid-court.
Really impressed with Ashland's Freshman guard. Even more impressed with Ashland's jazz band and singer. If your favorite team isn't playing, it would be well worth the price of admission to head to an Ashland home game, for the halftime shows.
Ontario won JV game 51-37. It wasn't that close. I think Ashland out scored Ontario by 10 in the 4th, when Henige called off his troops and played a zone. Outside of Galion, I don't think Ashland could win a JV game in the MOAC. I don't know how a school the size of Ashland could have a team like that.
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Post by gt1975 on Feb 12, 2020 12:51:02 GMT -5
Tonight, Gossom coaches against his son and the school that he was the varsity coach for 2 seasons (0-42). Should be interesting.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 12, 2020 20:03:47 GMT -5
Madison 53, Harding 51 OT
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Post by gt1975 on Feb 12, 2020 21:27:06 GMT -5
Lucas 72
Galion 47
Final
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Post by moacpops on Feb 13, 2020 9:26:50 GMT -5
River Valley 104
Cardington 69
CF will tie River Valley for 4th in the MOAC if they beat Marion tonight.
Marion Harding needs to win to have a .500 season.
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Post by moacpops on Feb 13, 2020 21:40:05 GMT -5
Marion Harding 47
ClearFork 37
Ontario 56
Pleasant 47
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Post by utsherman on Feb 14, 2020 21:04:48 GMT -5
Shelby 81
Galion 48
Final
TJ Pugh scores his 1000th point.
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Post by moacpops on Feb 14, 2020 21:48:25 GMT -5
Grandview 76
River Valley 56
Former MOAC member North Union beats Graham 64-50. NU stays undefeated.
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 15, 2020 20:06:53 GMT -5
Senior-30
Ontario-25 half
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 15, 2020 21:03:34 GMT -5
Senior-70
Ontario-56 Final
This is one of Joe’s weakest teams. I dont see them making much noise in the tourney.
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 15, 2020 21:07:48 GMT -5
Shelby-71
St.Petes-38 Final
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Post by quiz on Feb 15, 2020 21:08:18 GMT -5
Any update on the St. Peters boys vs. Shelby boys basketball?
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Post by hsbball on Feb 15, 2020 21:58:35 GMT -5
Senior-70 Ontario-56 Final This is one of Joe’s weakest teams. I dont see them making much noise in the tourney. Ontario needs to use their strengths! Joe needs to do more to get Griffin Shaver open, who in my opinion is one of the best players in Richland county. He gets face guarded almost every game, set some screens for him or something. Not saying one player can change the game but it sure can help. |
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 15, 2020 22:10:47 GMT -5
Lucas-86
CF-70 Final
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 15, 2020 22:35:05 GMT -5
Mt. Vernon-43
Harding-27 Final
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 15, 2020 22:46:02 GMT -5
Senior-70 Ontario-56 Final This is one of Joe’s weakest teams. I dont see them making much noise in the tourney. Ontario needs to use their strengths! Joe needs to do more to get Griffin Shaver open, who in my opinion is one of the best players in Richland county. He gets face guarded almost every game, set some screens for him or something. Not saying one player can change the game but it sure can help. Shaver gets about 50 screens set for him in a game. |
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Post by hsbball on Feb 15, 2020 22:47:15 GMT -5
Ontario needs to use their strengths! Joe needs to do more to get Griffin Shaver open, who in my opinion is one of the best players in Richland county. He gets face guarded almost every game, set some screens for him or something. Not saying one player can change the game but it sure can help. Shaver gets about 50 screens set for him in a game. I’m not sure what you consider a screen but watch closely and rethink the concept of a “screen” |
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Post by moacpops on Feb 15, 2020 23:35:36 GMT -5
Mt. Vernon-43 Harding-27 Final It was painful to watch. |
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Post by dude on Feb 16, 2020 1:14:47 GMT -5
Senior-70 Ontario-56 Final This is one of Joe’s weakest teams. I dont see them making much noise in the tourney. Why? They have 15 wins. Are they weak because they lost tonight to a 9-11 team? Is their schedule to easy, designed to get wins and not make them better? This is Shaq and Griff's 3rd season of playing varsity and Kurtz's 2nd so they have a veteran crew of three guys on the outside. Some teams would love to have that. |
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Post by dude on Feb 16, 2020 1:18:14 GMT -5
Shaver gets about 50 screens set for him in a game. I’m not sure what you consider a screen but watch closely and rethink the concept of a “screen” Shaver is a nice player but having to share the shots with Shaq and Kurtz means less shots. |
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Post by hsbball on Feb 16, 2020 1:23:52 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you consider a screen but watch closely and rethink the concept of a “screen” Shaver is a nice player but having to share the shots with Shaq and Kurtz means less shots. [br Yes this is correct! Shaver may get screens throughout the game but none of them are meaningful, they are screens while the ball is on the opposite side of the floor and from the games I’ve watched his teammates tend to have trouble getting Shaver the ball when a meaningful screen is actually set for him! Shaq Coburn is playing really well recently but for Ontario to be competitive Shaver needs to get the majority of the shots. In my opinion Shaver’s bad shots are better then other kids good shots. |
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 16, 2020 6:37:55 GMT -5
Shaver is a nice player but having to share the shots with Shaq and Kurtz means less shots. [br Yes this is correct! Shaver may get screens throughout the game but none of them are meaningful, they are screens while the ball is on the opposite side of the floor and from the games I’ve watched his teammates tend to have trouble getting Shaver the ball when a meaningful screen is actually set for him! Shaq Coburn is playing really well recently but for Ontario to be competitive Shaver needs to get the majority of the shots. In my opinion Shaver’s bad shots are better then other kids good shots. Two things: Screens are supposed to be set for guys who are away from the ball that way they can cut TO the ball side. If you set a screen for a guy who is ball side his cut will be away from the ball. The best shot on the floor is almost always the uncontested shot even if it is not your best player. Number 5 shooting a layup is better than number 1 a contested three pointer. Basketball 101. |
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 16, 2020 8:31:08 GMT -5
Senior-70 Ontario-56 Final This is one of Joe’s weakest teams. I dont see them making much noise in the tourney. Why? They have 15 wins. Are they weak because they lost tonight to a 9-11 team? Is their schedule to easy, designed to get wins and not make them better? This is Shaq and Griff's 3rd season of playing varsity and Kurtz's 2nd so they have a veteran crew of three guys on the outside. Some teams would love to have that. 3 veteran players on the outside don’t mean a thing when you can only connect on 2 of whatever. They are not a physical team. They don’t rebound well at all. Those that have watched Ontario the last 35 years know. |
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Post by dude on Feb 16, 2020 9:09:17 GMT -5
Why? They have 15 wins. Are they weak because they lost tonight to a 9-11 team? Is their schedule to easy, designed to get wins and not make them better? This is Shaq and Griff's 3rd season of playing varsity and Kurtz's 2nd so they have a veteran crew of three guys on the outside. Some teams would love to have that. 3 veteran players on the outside don’t mean a thing when you can only connect on 2 of whatever. They are not a physical team. They don’t rebound well at all. Those that have watched Ontario the last 35 years know. You do not need to watch the same guy coach for 35 years to know that when you return your top 3 players with a combined 8 seasons of varsity experience, you should be good. Your expectation to not make "much noise in the tourney" can be supported by those years you have been watching. |
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Post by dude on Feb 16, 2020 9:12:26 GMT -5
Shaver is a nice player but having to share the shots with Shaq and Kurtz means less shots. [br Yes this is correct! Shaver may get screens throughout the game but none of them are meaningful, they are screens while the ball is on the opposite side of the floor and from the games I’ve watched his teammates tend to have trouble getting Shaver the ball when a meaningful screen is actually set for him! Shaq Coburn is playing really well recently but for Ontario to be competitive Shaver needs to get the majority of the shots. In my opinion Shaver’s bad shots are better then other kids good shots. Are you saying that Shaver should be taking the shots that Shaq is taking? Even though by your own words, Shaq is playing really well. |
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Post by hsbball on Feb 16, 2020 11:53:49 GMT -5
[br Yes this is correct! Shaver may get screens throughout the game but none of them are meaningful, they are screens while the ball is on the opposite side of the floor and from the games I’ve watched his teammates tend to have trouble getting Shaver the ball when a meaningful screen is actually set for him! Shaq Coburn is playing really well recently but for Ontario to be competitive Shaver needs to get the majority of the shots. In my opinion Shaver’s bad shots are better then other kids good shots. Are you saying that Shaver should be taking the shots that Shaq is taking? Even though by your own words, Shaq is playing really well. I’m saying watch the production of what gets done when the ball is not in Shaver’s hands, he creates for his teammates but doesn’t get much in return. |
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Post by dude on Feb 16, 2020 12:30:40 GMT -5
Are you saying that Shaver should be taking the shots that Shaq is taking? Even though by your own words, Shaq is playing really well. I’m saying watch the production of what gets done when the ball is not in Shaver’s hands, he creates for his teammates but doesn’t get much in return. That's what a point guard is supposed to do. Being an upset parent does not change the nature of the game. |
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Post by hsbball on Feb 16, 2020 12:46:44 GMT -5
I’m saying watch the production of what gets done when the ball is not in Shaver’s hands, he creates for his teammates but doesn’t get much in return. That's what a point guard is supposed to do. Being an upset parent does not change the nature of the game. Not sure who you are referring to as an “upset parent” |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 16, 2020 14:54:38 GMT -5
Shaver gets about 50 screens set for him in a game. I’m not sure what you consider a screen but watch closely and rethink the concept of a “screen” I've been "closely" watching Balogh teams for 35 years. What he considers a screen is different than what an amateur would consider a screen. The best screens are ones not noticed by amateurs. Amateurs would only notice the last screen that a player runs off of, when in fact that was the 3rd screen for him on that set. Some screens are faux screens to mislead defenders for the real screen on a play. "Rethink" your position. When you've been a successful coach for 35 years, your concept of "screens" will be taken more seriously. If you've watched this offense for a LONG time you would know that this team runs sets and screens better than the vast majority of Balogh teams have. |
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