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Post by dolittle on Sept 15, 2016 10:47:18 GMT -5
At what point in a game, does a coach pull the starters when leading in a game?
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Post by sharonpeters on Sept 15, 2016 10:55:12 GMT -5
Tough to describe. Depends on what coach and who they're playing, and how the losing team reacts as well.
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Post by dolittle on Sept 15, 2016 11:18:41 GMT -5
Up 35-0 at half. Running clock. Play starters entire 2nd half?
Does it become about padding the stats, preserving a shutout?
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Post by vottruckers on Sept 15, 2016 11:32:49 GMT -5
If the score is 35-0 I have no problem with a coach putting the starters back in to start the second half. The kids have to learn how to get going again for the 2nd half and the only way to really do that is experience. I'd have them play half of the 3rd quarter or until they put up another score, whatever comes first. Then you pull them in favor of the second teamers as that allows them to get experience, and we all know they will be needed.
That said, bad things usually happen when you try to pad stats or run up a score. Someone gets hurt that shouldn't. I've seen it time after time. So I'd be in favor of giving the "backups" the majority of the 2nd half. The only issue with playing the 2nd/3rd strings too much in a HS game is the next day you have a JV game and those kids need to be able to go that whole game as well. So it's a fine line.
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Post by footballer on Sept 15, 2016 11:58:18 GMT -5
I agree. Let the starters get a few series in the second half. Especially if it's early in the season, as they need reps as much as anybody else. Then get your younger guys some run under the lights. You can't beat getting them varsity experience like that.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 15, 2016 11:59:14 GMT -5
Where I played if we were up that big starters would get the first series, both ways, in the second half. Second string took over after that as long as the losing coach pulled his starters, too. If he left his starters in and tried to make it a game heaven help him. JV started going in a little at a time in the fourth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 12:02:46 GMT -5
Just ask Sandusky's Coach Friday night
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 15:52:46 GMT -5
Can only speak of Sandusky and Bellevue, Damned if I know why both of them kept their starters in late in the game, when both games were well in hand against Huron. Thankfully, none of the starters for both of them got injured over this idiotic decision. With a running clock to start the 2nd half, 1 series for the starters then out, That's how it should be.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 15, 2016 17:44:34 GMT -5
WELL now, this question is asked every year. It has never been answered to everyone's satisfaction. IMO, due to there is no correct answer.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 15, 2016 17:59:59 GMT -5
Could someone in the know explain how the "quarter limit" rule works, since that's something often used as a reason why JV players aren't put in until at least the 4th quarter of the varsity game
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Post by dolittle on Sept 15, 2016 19:15:38 GMT -5
Could someone in the know explain how the "quarter limit" rule works, since that's something often used as a reason why JV players aren't put in until at least the 4th quarter of the varsity game Five quarters per week, two consecutive plays considered a quarter. Kicking not included. Many schools have many jayvee kids that could get time on Fridays but chose not to. I've never heard of "quarter limits" ever enforced in football. Baseball/Softball/Basketball - whole different story. Some schools have enough depth where if a kid plays on Friday mop up time, there are plenty of kids to play on Saturdays. Some schools even refuse to play kids on Saturday. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 7:22:13 GMT -5
Could someone in the know explain how the "quarter limit" rule works, since that's something often used as a reason why JV players aren't put in until at least the 4th quarter of the varsity game Its more of a suggestion and not really enforced in Ohio. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 8:15:09 GMT -5
If a jv player plays every quarter of the jv season that's 40. If they play ever 4th quarter of the varsity season that's 50(the limit). I would have to imagine not every game is a blowout. Now the counting can get nuts because a player as to play in 2 consecutive downs in a quarter to have it counted. So a kid could be on special teams only and not have that time counted also. IMO the "quarter limit excuse" really doesn't hold water in most cases.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 17, 2016 11:30:34 GMT -5
Could someone in the know explain how the "quarter limit" rule works, since that's something often used as a reason why JV players aren't put in until at least the 4th quarter of the varsity game Its more of a suggestion and not really enforced in Ohio. Then the OHSAA football rule book says something like this? "It is suggested you follow this guild line". I can't imagine that. So if a player is akin to a "messenger guard" that Paul Brown made famous and thus only played every other play on offense and did not play on defense. He would play half of the plays on offense, but by rule would play in zero quarters. |
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Post by redskinfan04 on Sept 17, 2016 12:58:42 GMT -5
There might be a rule on the books but it's pretty much universally ignored. With numbers shrinking the quarters limit's get pushed so that JV and Freshman games can get played. It is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 13:15:47 GMT -5
The OHSAA asks for everyone to self-police the rules they write.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 13:16:30 GMT -5
Which can mean if you don't upset other schools, no one will every know.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 17, 2016 15:48:47 GMT -5
OR for schools to police what other schools are doing.
The REAL interesting new "self policing rule" will be in baseball this year. That limits the number batters a pitcher faces in a game and time between games by the number of pitches thrown. Will each team have a designated "pitch counter"? Not so much watching his team's pitchers, but the opponent's pitchers. If a pitcher has a no-hitter going and reaches his limit of pitches, he MUST come out of the game in the middle of an inning after that batter he was pitching to when the pitch count was reached. Bottom of the 7th, best pitcher on the mound, 1 run lead, man on 3rd, pitch count reached, must come out of the game.
A little different than "self policing" quarters played in football. This rule is to protect the health of a teenager.
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