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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 27, 2020 23:05:23 GMT -5
Lucas at Galion
Clear Fork at Marion Harding
River Valley at Shelby
Ontario at Pleasant
Fredericktown at Centerburg
Northmor at Highland
Danville at East Knox
Cardington-Lincoln at Mount Gilead
Thoughts on these games.....
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 28, 2020 12:28:35 GMT -5
MOAC Standings:
5-0, 4-0 Shelby
4-1, 4-1 River Valley
3-2, 3-1 Ontario
2-3, 2-3 Galion
1-4, 1-3 Clear Fork
1-4, 1-3 Pleasant
1-4, 0-4 Marion Harding
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Post by maplecityjake on Sept 28, 2020 12:41:52 GMT -5
I have a thought in one game in particular....
Cubs are going to be piping mad if they aren't already.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 28, 2020 12:48:01 GMT -5
KMAC Standings:
5-0, 4-0 Centerburg
4-1, 4-1 Danville
4-1, 4-1 East Knox
2-3, 2-3 Cardington
2-3, 2-3 Highland
2-3, 1-3 Northmor
1-4, 1-4 Fredericktown
0-3, 0-3 Mt. Gilead
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 30, 2020 9:34:55 GMT -5
River Valley enters this week with a chance to clinch a share of the MOAC title. It'll be an uphill battle.
calpreps.com: Shelby 35 RV 14
Houseworth's: Shelby by 18
Shelby can also clinch a share (if the full round robin will happen) or clinch it outright (if it'll just be 5 league games)
Also, if Shelby and Clear Fork were to play each other in the playoffs would that count as a league game? (since that's both team's missing matchup)
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Sept 30, 2020 12:53:48 GMT -5
The MOAC already has asymmetrical league games this year. Depends on if the league wants to validate such a game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 30, 2020 20:12:23 GMT -5
IF RV beats Shelby, they will win the MOAC Title unless games are made up. As they have played all other MOAC teams, they didn't play Lucas. Shelby and Ontario did not play all MOAC teams, the both played Lucas. RV's league record would be 5-1 Shelby and Ontario would stand at 4-1 assuming they beat Pleasant.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 30, 2020 20:48:40 GMT -5
If that happens I would expect it to be officially called tri-share of the title between those 3.
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Post by buckeye33 on Oct 1, 2020 11:15:40 GMT -5
I believe that’s incorrect
If teams are tied for the MOAC lead, and not all MOAC games are played. MOAC games must be completed. If they can’t be completed, for instance Shelby or Clear Fork makes a deep playoff run, then MOAC championship is not awarded
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 1, 2020 13:03:18 GMT -5
If that happens I would expect it to be officially called tri-share of the title between those 3. How could it be a "tri-share" when one team has a better winning %? |
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 1, 2020 13:20:38 GMT -5
The idea would be to make an exception and not penalize schools for playing an unequal amount of games due to circumstances outside their control. Not sure how the MOAC would officially rule on it, but situation I'm using as precedent happened in the NOL. The 2001 Upper Sandusky/Tiffin Columbian game was cancelled due to a student death at one of those schools. As a result, Tiffin finished 5-1 in league play while Bellevue finished 6-1.....and both teams were declared co-champions.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Oct 1, 2020 13:40:08 GMT -5
I enjoy these hypothetical discussions.
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Post by buckeye33 on Oct 1, 2020 17:41:42 GMT -5
If not all league games are played, there won’t be a MOAC champion unless Shelby had a two game lead
RION - There is a chance the Mid Ohio Athletic Conference will not crown a league champion in football this fall. And it has nothing to do with the addition of Lucas to round out the revamped schedules as those will be considered non-league games.
"They’re not playing everybody," Marion Harding Athletic Director Sean Kearns said as the Cubs will not face the Presidents nor River Valley. "If they did play everybody and went 6-0, I think I’d buy them a trophy. That’s a heck of a run. That’s a pretty good league. And I think they’re pretty good."
Adding Lucas into the mix, a Richland County school that was Division VII state runners-up last year, is just one of the many quirks that saw the regular season reduced from 10 games to six with the playoffs now beginning in Week 7. Everyone is invited into the playoffs, but schools can opt out. Also adding to the changes is the fact that schools can continue to schedule games through Nov. 14, playing no more than 10 for the regular season.
So what does all that have to do with the MOAC potentially not crowning a champ?
"The problem is complicated," Kearns said after Wednesday's league meeting.
Because the MOAC has seven teams, one team cannot play a league game each week; thus, the addition of Lucas. By playing conference games from the start of the regular season, only River Valley will play all six league opponents in the first six weeks before the playoffs.
f a team is 5-0 and another is 4-1, the 5-0 team cannot claim the title even if those teams in dispute played head-to-head.
"As our constitution reads, everyone hasn’t been played, so you wouldn’t have a league champion," Kearns explained. "Even though they are undefeated, they haven’t played every game. That second-place team isn’t going to concede the title because the (undefeated team) could have lost that last game. Unless there is a clear two-game margin, you don’t really have a champ."
That means teams in the MOAC will try to reschedule those final league games beyond Week 7, but that may not be possible. Long playoff runs could keep those contests from happening.
"There are all kinds of crazy things you have to think about," Kearns said. "Do you expect somebody to continue to practice three weeks to wait on you? And quite frankly at the end of a three-week playoff run, a team might say we’re done after that. There are so many things to envision down the road that makes it difficult."
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 1, 2020 22:22:52 GMT -5
Well that's interesting. I wonder how many other leagues have that rule, it'll be a common situation this year.
So if Shelby beats River Valley, they'd have a 2 game lead on them in the loss column which would eliminate River Valley's claim to make Shelby play their final league game for official purposes. However, Ontario still only has one league loss. So for Shelby to officially win the MOAC without making up the Clear Fork game, Ontario would have to either lose to Pleasant tomorrow, or play and lose a game against Harding that will most likely need to be rescheduled in order to take place.
Assuming that both Shelby and Clear Fork would want to make up their game after the playoffs, it could only happen if both teams get eliminated before playing their 10th game (Regional final would be Shelby's 10th game, and the semis would be CF's.) Shelby could end up in a situation where winning a playoff game would cost them a chance to officially win their league title, which is just bizarre to think about
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Post by richrod on Oct 2, 2020 10:00:46 GMT -5
Some interesting games this week.
I like shelby by 3 scores
I think lucas rebounds and controls the clock. I'll take lucas by 6
Ontario rolls over pleasant by 14
Cf continues to hit their stride with a solid win over a struggling Harding team
Should be a fun night in the MOAC
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Post by moacpops on Oct 2, 2020 13:59:23 GMT -5
Shelby is banged up. Hamstring injuries are bad news. Closer game tonight
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 2, 2020 18:09:55 GMT -5
Two three and outs. RV punter puts a knee down fielding a low snap. Shelby takes advantage of the short field and score on the first play. Passing TD. 7-0.
Next offensive play Shelby picks off RV.
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 2, 2020 18:12:00 GMT -5
Two plays later QB keeps it for a TD. 14-0. 8:27 in the first.
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 2, 2020 18:24:46 GMT -5
RV with a first down then punt.
Shelby drive stalls inside the 20. Kick a FG. 17-0 1:45 in the first.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 2, 2020 18:26:55 GMT -5
End of 1st. Galion 14 Lucas 7.
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 2, 2020 18:27:29 GMT -5
RV three and out. Another low snap. Punter tackled deep.
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 2, 2020 18:45:22 GMT -5
It was 24-0. Shelby pinned deep after a punt. Pass tipped at the line. RV intercepts. Score on a short field. 24-7.
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 2, 2020 18:54:23 GMT -5
Shelby 31-7. 3:32 left in the half.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 2, 2020 19:02:30 GMT -5
17-13 Galion at halftime
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 2, 2020 19:03:55 GMT -5
End of 1st. Galion 14 Lucas 7. What happened with that blocked extra point try after Lucas scored to make it 17-13 ? Good question. We were scratching our heads. |
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 2, 2020 19:10:25 GMT -5
38-7 Shelby at the half.
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Post by galion on Oct 2, 2020 19:12:18 GMT -5
By rule an extra point is a dead ball as soon as it is blocked in hs it must have taken the refs a while to look that one up in their books. Also, they must have missed the part where it’s illegal for players in the backfield to make sudden movements designed to draw players offside.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 2, 2020 19:18:38 GMT -5
There has been a lot of that tonight....
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Post by gtab on Oct 2, 2020 19:40:19 GMT -5
Still 24-13 ?
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 2, 2020 19:42:19 GMT -5
24-13 Galion after 3
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