Week 6: Vermilion (29) @ Huron (32)

[BellevueBuckeye]

These schools did not play last year

[greenman]

This is a difficult one to call, but I'm thinking Tigers. While they've never played each other, the history of these programs makes me believe that Huron, no matter what their hard times are, will still best a historically weaker Vermilion program.

[runshoot]

not sure if you meant last year greenman or forever, but huron and vermilion was a huge rivalry in the 60's and this weekend we will continue a tradtion of The Win-Oar a trophy that the winner of the game keeps until next football meeting .

[Deleted]

Huron 32 Vermilion 29 Final score. Very sad to see the stands that empty for Huron's homecoming. Sam Hohler really needs to clean house on some of his staff, This didn't need to be a close game, but the clowns he's has, kept the Sailors in it with their play calling. Vermilion is an okay team, but Huron is alot better than they played, again.

[greenman]

Sept 24, 2016 23:04:13 GMT -5 runshoot said:

not sure if you meant last year greenman or forever, but huron and vermilion was a huge rivalry in the 60's and this weekend we will continue a tradtion of The Win-Oar a trophy that the winner of the game keeps until next football meeting .

I'm a child of the 80s, if that explains anything. In the nineties, I watched as Vermilion was perhaps the first in our area for full "pay-to-play," and the prospect terrified us. They never seemed to to well in FB from then on.


Of course now - last I knew, anyway - Perkins charges families a king's ransom to play, unless your family's entire existence depends on welfare. I remember talking to someone I knew that worked occasionally in the schools some years back; she was angered by one student mocking another for not being able to afford the fees, while the taunting student paid none, as his family relied completely on the largesse of the state.

[piratefan]

I always wondered what would happen at all these pay to play schools, if the parents and kids got together, and no one went out for any sport? Most every school in the area has a ton of money wrapped up in stadiums. Would they just let them sit there empty for the whole year? When you stop to think about it, the players actually have some power over the schools. Be interesting if all the kids just decided to go on strike, and no one played any sport. Empty stadiums for an entire year. What would a school do then? Makes ya wonder.

Sad to see Huron fans have forgotten football. Attendance has been in decline over there for a long time. I don't want to hear the excuse about people having "other things to do" either. Is that ONLY in Huron? All the other schools in the area have great fan support. I go to whichever game I think is the best game every week, so I've been to most every school in the entire area, and all the other games I go to have great crowds. All but Huron. People from the area all comment on it. They notice the lack of fan support when they play the Tigers. People from Huron have been in denial about it for quite awhile, but it's blatantly obvious to everyone else. Something is seriously WRONG in Tigertown.

[greenman]

Oct 1, 2016 21:00:49 GMT -5 piratefan said:

I always wondered what would happen at all these pay to play schools, if the parents and kids got together, and no one went out for any sport? Most every school in the area has a ton of money wrapped up in stadiums. Would they just let them sit there empty for the whole year? When you stop to think about it, the players actually have some power over the schools. Be interesting if all the kids just decided to go on strike, and no one played any sport. Empty stadiums for an entire year. What would a school do then? Makes ya wonder.

Sad to see Huron fans have forgotten football. Attendance has been in decline over there for a long time. I don't want to hear the excuse about people having "other things to do" either. Is that ONLY in Huron? All the other schools in the area have great fan support. I go to whichever game I think is the best game every week, so I've been to most every school in the entire area, and all the other games I go to have great crowds. All but Huron. People from the area all comment on it. They notice the lack of fan support when they play the Tigers. People from Huron have been in denial about it for quite awhile, but it's blatantly obvious to everyone else. Something is seriously WRONG in Tigertown.

     From 2000 to 2015, Huron lost 1K net in pop., or nearly 70 each year . In a city whose population peaked at 7,900ish (in 2000, no less), this should cause more visible concern from city hall than we've seen, to say nothing of any signs of panic from the schools. I've had trouble finding when the stadium was first built, but I know that as of now, the home side can seat 2,500 - you'd need to empty the town to fill the stands.
     That "empty the town" phenomenon doesn't happen anywhere these days, not even in the tiny country towns. Monroeville's homecoming only just filled the tiny home side at Marsh, and that crowd had thinned considerably by the beginning of Q4 on account of spotty weather and a game that was essentially finished by halftime. The Tigers used to draw the crowd with great ball in what was a coliseum compared to rival schools' stadiums at the time. Even the continuation of great play deep into the Legando administration couldn't keep the bleachers filled. Population loss, population aging, progress opening new avenues up to both potential spectators and players, universal open enrollment - all of these things pile one upon the other to dismantle institutions that give small communities their identity - the school, the football team, local businesses.
     In one of the districts in which I substitute-teach, I can't count the number of students that have either left for or come from a neighboring district just in this year. Families, and in turn their students, don't create ties to schools or the communities those schools are in. That doesn't just translate to fewer backsides filling bleachers, or bodies filling uniforms. If you're a parent, and you feel your student isn't getting what they need in class, you feel your student is being treated unfairly, or if you simply don't like the admins or teachers, you don't have to lobby and work hard as a member of a community to improve a system you can just leave.
     Even in our day, piratefan, Pirate football - and PHS in general - never was a central part of the entire community. In those old rickety bleachers above Scott Fry Dr., we'd draw a few alumni, parents, just a few young families, and the student section that, in my brief experience up there, were generally more interested in "other" things. Personally, I'm thankful for the new mega-conference realignment next year; hopefully, playing schools closer to their size will demand a more consistent level of good play and growth for the Pirate program.

Sorry for the rant.

[runshoot]

Sept 30, 2016 21:43:27 GMT -5 @markmay said:

Huron 32 Vermilion 29 Final score. Very sad to see the stands that empty for Huron's homecoming. Sam Hohler really needs to clean house on some of his staff, This didn't need to be a close game, but the clowns he's has, kept the Sailors in it with their play calling. Vermilion is an okay team, but Huron is alot better than they played, again.

You're as dumb as mark may! can't get volunteers to help H team, can't get guys to help the food stands, sign up sheet for volunteering is basically empty. And you think you're going to get someone to volunteer coach? tighten up the screw buddy its loose!

[runshoot]

Oct 2, 2016 0:32:01 GMT -5 greenman said:

Oct 1, 2016 21:00:49 GMT -5 piratefan said:

I always wondered what would happen at all these pay to play schools, if the parents and kids got together, and no one went out for any sport? Most every school in the area has a ton of money wrapped up in stadiums. Would they just let them sit there empty for the whole year? When you stop to think about it, the players actually have some power over the schools. Be interesting if all the kids just decided to go on strike, and no one played any sport. Empty stadiums for an entire year. What would a school do then? Makes ya wonder.

Sad to see Huron fans have forgotten football. Attendance has been in decline over there for a long time. I don't want to hear the excuse about people having "other things to do" either. Is that ONLY in Huron? All the other schools in the area have great fan support. I go to whichever game I think is the best game every week, so I've been to most every school in the entire area, and all the other games I go to have great crowds. All but Huron. People from the area all comment on it. They notice the lack of fan support when they play the Tigers. People from Huron have been in denial about it for quite awhile, but it's blatantly obvious to everyone else. Something is seriously WRONG in Tigertown.

     From 2000 to 2015, Huron lost 1K net in pop., or nearly 70 each year . In a city whose population peaked at 7,900ish (in 2000, no less), this should cause more visible concern from city hall than we've seen, to say nothing of any signs of panic from the schools. I've had trouble finding when the stadium was first built, but I know that as of now, the home side can seat 2,500 - you'd need to empty the town to fill the stands.
     That "empty the town" phenomenon doesn't happen anywhere these days, not even in the tiny country towns. Monroeville's homecoming only just filled the tiny home side at Marsh, and that crowd had thinned considerably by the beginning of Q4 on account of spotty weather and a game that was essentially finished by halftime. The Tigers used to draw the crowd with great ball in what was a coliseum compared to rival schools' stadiums at the time. Even the continuation of great play deep into the Legando administration couldn't keep the bleachers filled. Population loss, population aging, progress opening new avenues up to both potential spectators and players, universal open enrollment - all of these things pile one upon the other to dismantle institutions that give small communities their identity - the school, the football team, local businesses.
     In one of the districts in which I substitute-teach, I can't count the number of students that have either left for or come from a neighboring district just in this year. Families, and in turn their students, don't create ties to schools or the communities those schools are in. That doesn't just translate to fewer backsides filling bleachers, or bodies filling uniforms. If you're a parent, and you feel your student isn't getting what they need in class, you feel your student is being treated unfairly, or if you simply don't like the admins or teachers, you don't have to lobby and work hard as a member of a community to improve a system you can just leave.
     Even in our day, piratefan, Pirate football - and PHS in general - never was a central part of the entire community. In those old rickety bleachers above Scott Fry Dr., we'd draw a few alumni, parents, just a few young families, and the student section that, in my brief experience up there, were generally more interested in "other" things. Personally, I'm thankful for the new mega-conference realignment next year; hopefully, playing schools closer to their size will demand a more consistent level of good play and growth for the Pirate program.

Sorry for the rant.

how its changed,   my graduating class of 1979 had 265 people   my sons graduating class of 2017 has 115 kids.