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Post by fbfan on May 7, 2021 7:24:21 GMT -5
I have no problem what-so-ever believing that, it has been generally known that Willard has been interested for some time. If those two have made a formal written inquiry, it would be appropriate to put it to a vote. Contrary to what some on here believe, 1 school does not make the decisions for the N10. It will take 6 of the 8 members to approve. I didn't think you had a problem with it, what I was pointing out is IF this is true it means they are considering it. Which you claimed they had no interest in doing. When Lexington sent a letter of interest to the MOAC it never went to a principal's vote by to add them or not. I was decided in a regular meeting to not move forward with discussion of the possibility of adding them. IF this is truly going to a vote to invite these schools then that means it has already been discussed enough to proceed and now the principals are voting. I do not think 1 school will make this decision but it is safe to know that 1 school is more active in the actions of the N10. You should go to the N10 website and read the N10 Constitution. It defines a process to be followed for all parties, concerning admitting new schools. Just because they follow the process does not mean the members will be in favor of admitting a new school(s). Remember, I was just giving my opinion on what I think they will do.
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Post by dude on May 7, 2021 7:51:44 GMT -5
I didn't think you had a problem with it, what I was pointing out is IF this is true it means they are considering it. Which you claimed they had no interest in doing. When Lexington sent a letter of interest to the MOAC it never went to a principal's vote by to add them or not. I was decided in a regular meeting to not move forward with discussion of the possibility of adding them. IF this is truly going to a vote to invite these schools then that means it has already been discussed enough to proceed and now the principals are voting. I do not think 1 school will make this decision but it is safe to know that 1 school is more active in the actions of the N10. You should go to the N10 website and read the N10 Constitution. It defines a process to be followed for all parties, concerning admitting new schools. Just because they follow the process does not mean the members will be in favor of admitting a new school(s). Remember, I was just giving my opinion on what I think they will do. I agree what is written as the process ONCE it is decided to put it to vote. I am pointing out the discussion that leads up to the vote. All leagues talk about topics in open forum that never receive momentum to get to an actual league vote because of lack of interest. What I am implying is that there is enough interest to be a 10 team league by enough schools in the N10 that it requires this be voted on. That's all
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Post by ohioraised on May 7, 2021 7:54:39 GMT -5
If Marion Pleasant does leave it could open the spot for Lexington since it removes a Marion County school. I like that along with the adding Highland.
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Post by dude on May 7, 2021 10:01:30 GMT -5
If Marion Pleasant does leave it could open the spot for Lexington since it removes a Marion County school. I like that along with the adding Highland. hard to say if adding Highland into the vote would make a difference. They have normally seen themselves as being to small to play Lexington.
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Post by fbfan on May 7, 2021 10:57:10 GMT -5
You should go to the N10 website and read the N10 Constitution. It defines a process to be followed for all parties, concerning admitting new schools. Just because they follow the process does not mean the members will be in favor of admitting a new school(s). Remember, I was just giving my opinion on what I think they will do. I agree what is written as the process ONCE it is decided to put it to vote. I am pointing out the discussion that leads up to the vote. All leagues talk about topics in open forum that never receive momentum to get to an actual league vote because of lack of interest. What I am implying is that there is enough interest to be a 10 team league by enough schools in the N10 that it requires this be voted on. That's all The "process" laid out in the N10 Constitution is what leads them to, and essentially requires them, to vote on a valid application. They don't discuss (or they shouldn't formally) whether or not to even take a vote as you say happened in the MOAC. A valid application process requires the Executive Board to fulfill their duty to decide all issues of membership by a vote. The discussion then comes on the application, before they vote on it. As I said before, following the process to a vote is not an indication one way or another of the member's views. With that being said, I get your point though. They all probably have talked about and know where the others stand. I think most of them like the number 8.
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Post by dude on May 18, 2021 6:37:24 GMT -5
The official process is one thing but the process for the way things get done can be another. Do not forget how the N10 was formed. All issues may be decided by a membership vote but not all topic discussions make it to a vote if the members feel it is not worth it. IT's no different than most leagues across the state. I like the idea. School enrollment change, districts change, sometimes leagues can get stagnant.
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Post by fbfan on May 18, 2021 9:55:30 GMT -5
The official process is one thing but the process for the way things get done can be another. Do not forget how the N10 was formed. All issues may be decided by a membership vote but not all topic discussions make it to a vote if the members feel it is not worth it. IT's no different than most leagues across the state. I like the idea. School enrollment change, districts change, sometimes leagues can get stagnant. Relevant parts from the N10 Constitution on new members. 3-1-4. New members may be admitted to the Northern 10 Athletic Conference under the following guidelines: 3-1-4(a): Written application for membership shall be made by the superintendent of the applying school to the conference Commissioner no later than thirty (30) days prior to a regularly scheduled meeting of the Executive Committee. 3-1-4(b): The Commissioner shall present the application to the members of the N10 at the next Executive Board meeting following receipt of the application. 3-1-4(c): Petitioning schools will be admitted to the N10 within the framework of the constitution by a 70% majority vote of all member schools.
6-1-2. The Executive Board shall be responsible for all matters concerning membership, withdrawal, expulsion, suspension, discipline concerning member schools; and approving constitutional amendments. 6-2-3. Executive Board members, or their designees, shall cast one vote (and only one vote) on any/all matters for which a vote of the membership is required.
A proper application for membership requires a vote of the Executive Board. They can discuss "if the members feel it is not worth it" beforehand, but they still have to vote. That is why going to a vote is no indication of acceptance one way or another.
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Post by dude on May 18, 2021 12:01:16 GMT -5
A proper application for membership requires a vote of the Executive Board. They can discuss "if the members feel it is not worth it" beforehand, but they still have to vote. That is why going to a vote is no indication of acceptance one way or another. The fact that it is going to vote means it did not get squashed during general discussion from lack of interest like many topics due. Also, many schools will know if they have a chance before they send an "application for membership". It doesn't mean they will get voted in, but if early talks happened it does mean there was enough interest from some current members for the outside schools to take the time.
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Post by mrsteel on May 18, 2021 18:03:53 GMT -5
While there is a 70% vote requirement to admit a school. There is no requirement to bring it to a vote.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2021 17:58:10 GMT -5
While there is a 70% vote requirement to admit a school. There is no requirement to bring it to a vote. Well did the vote ever happen?
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Post by wallpass on Jun 12, 2021 20:01:50 GMT -5
Date I heard the vote was to take place is June 13 - tomorrow. We shall see.
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Post by crimsonblooded on Jun 13, 2021 7:42:22 GMT -5
Date I heard the vote was to take place is June 13 - tomorrow. We shall see. So was it decided on June 10th to bring it to a vote on June 13th or has it always been schedule for the 13th. Also does anybody know what time this meeting is to take place if at all. Seems to be a lot of mystery on how things work in the N10. Basically I’m just curious for the official ruling as it seems to be predetermined that Willard and Marion Pleasant will not be admitted into the conference.
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Post by fbfan on Jun 13, 2021 8:06:55 GMT -5
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Post by crimsonblooded on Jun 13, 2021 9:03:16 GMT -5
Well this meeting seems to be a mystery for me. When it is or if there will be a vote at all. 10th, 13th, 14th, and 17th seem to be the dates I’ve heard so far.
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Post by fbfan on Jun 13, 2021 9:59:22 GMT -5
Well this meeting seems to be a mystery for me. When it is or if there will be a vote at all. 10th, 13th, 14th, and 17th seem to be the dates I’ve heard so far. Have you heard if/when a Special meeting of the Executive Board has been called? If not, none of those dates are correct. Anyone claiming to know when a meeting is to occur, that this issue will be voted on, would probably know it is a special meeting. 6-5-1. The regular meetings of the Executive Board shall take place as follows: 1. The second (2nd) Wednesday of August which will include principals and athletic directors. 2. The first (1st ) Wednesday after the completion of both the girls’ and boys’ conference basketball schedules. 6-5-2. Special meetings of the Executive Board may be called by the President or by a majority of the Executive Board.
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Post by crimsonblooded on Jun 13, 2021 18:45:58 GMT -5
Ok so sounds like we won’t know if one is to be held at all. Thanks
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Post by dude on Jun 13, 2021 21:18:54 GMT -5
Ok so sounds like we won’t know if one is to be held at all. Thanks Sounds like things are being discussed. If fbfan was correct the N10 would have never been born and the NCC would still be intact.
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