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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Oct 7, 2016 21:28:59 GMT -5
No exaggeration when saying willard receivers dropped 15 passes. At least 4 were tocuhdowns. If they catch half of them willard wins the game easily
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2016 21:42:15 GMT -5
If Willard dropped 15 passes, then #15 dropped 10 of them.
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Oct 7, 2016 21:42:53 GMT -5
You are correct fillmore
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2016 21:47:46 GMT -5
Trey Jordan #5 played the entire game even at the end. #8 the entire game. The only subs were on the front 6 the back 5 played the whole game. Obviously you were watching a different game BUT, Trey played less then half the snaps at his QB position. The rest of the time he was split out wide as a decoy, never thrown to. The Freshman QB, next year's starter, took more snaps. You just remember Trey more, by far the fastest player on the field.
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Oct 7, 2016 21:51:04 GMT -5
Yes I do realize that. I was simply saying that the back end of the secondary was all starters on defense nm the whole game and that willard did not score against the backups. That was still 1s on 1s
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 7, 2016 22:07:03 GMT -5
Yes I do realize that. I was simply saying that the back end of the secondary was all starters on defense nm the whole game and that willard did not score against the backups. That was still 1s on 1s There were several non-starters on the field when Willard scored their TD including a DB. I was a little concerned about backups playing on that drive. I've seen more than one game lost when up by 2 TD's with 6+ minutes to play. Trey and Quan were not on the field after Ontario scored their last TD to put the game out of reach. There were so many different DB's that played during the game I couldn't believe it. When I got home I checked the program and counted 11 DBs that played. With that being said, only in the last 2 minutes was the entire starting D backfield out of the game. The D-coordinator actually did a good job of shuffling DB's in and out. Ontario hasn't played a team that threw the ball nearly as much as Willard does. If only 4 DBs played the entire game, Willard might have won.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 7:43:46 GMT -5
Willard scored when it was 20-0 there was no subs on the field your Statement is completely false. 20-8 with 6 minutes to go and Ontario scored twice late. Get your facts correct if you are gonna talk bad about a program Maybe the better way to say this considering the readers is that Willard scored against the normal rotation of players Ontario uses.
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Post by mrsteel on Oct 8, 2016 10:03:48 GMT -5
Bad eyesite on my part. The sophomore is a regular. The only different player was #7. A regular on offense and special teams, Not so much lately in the defensive secondary.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 8, 2016 14:06:54 GMT -5
Willard scored when it was 20-0 there was no subs on the field your Statement is completely false. 20-8 with 6 minutes to go and Ontario scored twice late. Get your facts correct if you are gonna talk bad about a program Maybe the better way to say this considering the readers is that Willard scored against the normal rotation of players Ontario uses. "Normal" starting last week.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 8, 2016 14:22:46 GMT -5
Bad eyesite on my part. The sophomore is a regular. The only different player was #7. A regular on offense and special teams, Not so much lately in the defensive secondary. #7 splits time with #6 at TB on offense, since they moved the back-up TB to a starter on the O-line. By my count Ontario played 25 players not counting special teams, before the final 2 minutes of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 21:05:43 GMT -5
As implied, Willard scored against the normal Omtario rotation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 21:10:08 GMT -5
Regardless it does not change the score and the idea that Willard is a evolving program that should be better next season.
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 8, 2016 21:53:43 GMT -5
Willard fans are unconcerned w calpreps Scarlet, will the Flashes go 1-9 with their only win being to a team that may go 2-8, 3-7? Where does this program go? What is their future after graduating many of their limited athletic pool after this season? 1) Probably, but might beat Norwalk at home. Small chance v Tiffin on the road too. 2) They've won 1 game or so over the past what seems forever years, and still exist. Next year the schedule gets quite a bit easier with a couple of automatic wins. It's a start. 3) Yeah that's tough, I know the 8th grade team is solid but Jr. High and Bolt titles in the past haven't translated at the varsity level one bit. Perhaps that changes with this bunch... but from what I hear 9th and 7th grades are close to non existent. Dunno sir, nowhere to go but up.
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 9, 2016 19:21:56 GMT -5
Scarlet, will the Flashes go 1-9 with their only win being to a team that may go 2-8, 3-7? Where does this program go? What is their future after graduating many of their limited athletic pool after this season? 1) Probably, but might beat Norwalk at home. Small chance v Tiffin on the road too. 2) They've won 1 game or so over the past what seems forever years, and still exist. Next year the schedule gets quite a bit easier with a couple of automatic wins. It's a start. 3) Yeah that's tough, I know the 8th grade team is solid but Jr. High and Bolt titles in the past haven't translated at the varsity level one bit. Perhaps that changes with this bunch... but from what I hear 9th and 7th grades are close to non existent. Dunno sir, nowhere to go but up. I use to go to many of the fb games in the 90s and then we moved outside of the Willard area and I have only been to a few games now and then but I do follow up on them and I know some friends that still go religiously. Most of my insight is through them. I see a program that has went through 3-4 coaches over a ?10-12? year period with 1 or maybe 2 seasons where they have went over .500. Correct me if I am wrong. It seems as though UP has been the hurdle to get over here. I haven't heard too many good things about this new coach and maybe that is because my sources are a bit biased but it seems as though Willard is in a really deep ditch that even Wilcox can't pull them out of. If this coach fails, what is next? Could Willard pull the funding together to hire a bigger name coach? Not that I know of any but $$$ does talk.
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 9, 2016 19:42:04 GMT -5
The weight room problem for the football team has been addressed and it will be a whole new team next year! As far as next man up willard does not have that. Just because more kids are out on the team does not mean that more of them are ready to play on Friday nights. People will see a whole different level from willard next year in year 2 of the offense. You don't go from running the triple option for 4 years to being able to run the spread perfectly. Year 2 will be a different year for the flashes I applaud your enthusiasm but how is this team going to be an entire different program next year when you lose your senior qb and other senior leadership? That position alone is hard to replace and judging by the JV scores, I personally just do not see it, but maybe I will be wrong. If the Flashes can muster 4-5 wins next season, I will consider it a positive season. 0-3 wins, I think its just a 3 legged dog.
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 9, 2016 20:35:14 GMT -5
1) Probably, but might beat Norwalk at home. Small chance v Tiffin on the road too. 2) They've won 1 game or so over the past what seems forever years, and still exist. Next year the schedule gets quite a bit easier with a couple of automatic wins. It's a start. 3) Yeah that's tough, I know the 8th grade team is solid but Jr. High and Bolt titles in the past haven't translated at the varsity level one bit. Perhaps that changes with this bunch... but from what I hear 9th and 7th grades are close to non existent. Dunno sir, nowhere to go but up. I haven't heard too many good things about this new coach and maybe that is because my sources are a bit biased You are correct, your sources must really be biased. And you must be living under a rock. This statement you made couldn't be further from the truth.
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Oct 9, 2016 22:09:05 GMT -5
Tommy the flashes do graduate their starting qb. They also only have 4 seniors. There is sometimes as many as 5 sophomores on the field at all times. The sophomores are the leaders of the program and everyone will see that next year. Yes the jv is struggling but there is enough young kids that play varsity that it will be the same team again next year on Fridays as it is this year. The leadership is in the youth and it will be extremely better in all phases for the flashes next year
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 10, 2016 13:38:58 GMT -5
1) Probably, but might beat Norwalk at home. Small chance v Tiffin on the road too. 2) They've won 1 game or so over the past what seems forever years, and still exist. Next year the schedule gets quite a bit easier with a couple of automatic wins. It's a start. 3) Yeah that's tough, I know the 8th grade team is solid but Jr. High and Bolt titles in the past haven't translated at the varsity level one bit. Perhaps that changes with this bunch... but from what I hear 9th and 7th grades are close to non existent. Dunno sir, nowhere to go but up. Could Willard pull the funding together to hire a bigger name coach? Not that I know of any but $$$ does talk. If Willard did something of this nature and get caught, they would get the OHSAA death penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 14:57:58 GMT -5
Hire them as a transportation director. Those can pay big bucks.
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 10, 2016 16:56:49 GMT -5
Tommy the flashes do graduate their starting qb. They also only have 4 seniors. There is sometimes as many as 5 sophomores on the field at all times. The sophomores are the leaders of the program and everyone will see that next year. Yes the jv is struggling but there is enough young kids that play varsity that it will be the same team again next year on Fridays as it is this year. The leadership is in the youth and it will be extremely better in all phases for the flashes next year Who will be qb next year? Serious q.
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Oct 10, 2016 17:56:44 GMT -5
Spencer Parrott who is out with a broken ankle or Jarrett Sowers who plays some qb now
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Post by footballfan on Oct 10, 2016 18:00:51 GMT -5
They will be in the river division (the small where they should be equal) they should be at least 500 next year I would think!!!!
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Post by unconcernedcitizen on Oct 10, 2016 21:45:46 GMT -5
You are correct football fan the flashes should compete much more often and start winning games more often starting next year.they finally start playing teams their own size and should see a dramatic increase in the win column
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Post by downtown_4_3 on Oct 11, 2016 6:37:37 GMT -5
Next year there will be no excuses... Willard will be the big fish in the pond (per the latest boys enrollment numbers) Willard 143 Margaretta 110 Lakota 99 Sandusky St. Mary 72 Tiffin Calvert 63 Fremont St. Jospeh 58 Fostoria St. Wendelin 43
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 16, 2016 13:33:11 GMT -5
OH my! What would Vogel say about that? Has he moved to Plymouth yet, as promised?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 7:16:13 GMT -5
Next year there will be no excuses... Willard will be the big fish in the pond (per the latest boys enrollment numbers) Willard 143 Margaretta 110 Lakota 99 Sandusky St. Mary 72 Tiffin Calvert 63 Fremont St. Jospeh 58 Fostoria St. Wendelin 43 Their other 4 games will need to be selected carefully depending on their goals.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 7:23:30 GMT -5
Of course being D6 and playing schools D7 is not a crazy jump.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 7:27:08 GMT -5
Next year there will be no excuses... Willard will be the big fish in the pond (per the latest boys enrollment numbers) Willard 143 Margaretta 110 Lakota 99 Sandusky St. Mary 72 Tiffin Calvert 63 Fremont St. Jospeh 58 Fostoria St. Wendelin 43 That's Willard at D6 playing a D6 and 5 D7 schools. Toss in schools like Shelby, Norwalk with another local and you have a solid schedule for a smaller school trying to build a program.
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 18, 2016 19:28:14 GMT -5
They will be in the river division (the small where they should be equal) they should be at least 500 next year I would think!!!! 2 wins are automatic and another should be easy. I think it's fair to say .500 ball is a goal next year, 3 or less wins will be a disappointment. 6 wins or more = parade
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 18, 2016 20:34:02 GMT -5
Next year there will be no excuses... Willard will be the big fish in the pond (per the latest boys enrollment numbers) Willard 143 Margaretta 110 Lakota 99 Sandusky St. Mary 72 Tiffin Calvert 63 Fremont St. Jospeh 58 Fostoria St. Wendelin 43 That's Willard at D6 playing a D6 and 5 D7 schools. Toss in schools like Shelby, Norwalk with another local and you have a solid schedule for a smaller school trying to build a program. Being in the River Division, Willard can toss in Shelby and Norwalk and look for 2 more local schools for their schedule or 3 if St. Wendelin doesn't field a team. Not knowing from year to year what they will do or if they want to play 8-man can cause headaches for an AD.
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